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kday
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When I was sick, I don't think I released any toxins. Nothing evident anyway. In fact, I think my body held on to them. As strange as it sounds, my body was too alkaline for a while (as per urine strips and naturopath), and I noticed detox when my body shifted slightly acidic.

From the beginning, I always complained to my doctor that my anxiety/fear may be caused by a feeling of toxicity. I never connected toxicity to real life at the time, but "toxic" seemed to describe how I felt. Of course, my doctor thought I was crazy, and 9 months later I sought another that suspected Lyme and I came up CDC+ titers and western blot.

Anyway, now I just dump toxins. Some days my body doesn't want to pee. I retain water. I couldn't figure this out at all until I decided to buy and drink 1.5 liters of BPA free glacier water one day with 4 ppm of (natural) total dissolved solids. Strange enough other water doesn't seem to get out the toxins like this one, so I now truly believe not all the water is the same now and water have different energies. I guess you have to see some things first hand to believe them.

Anyway, after drinking 1.5 liters of water, I dumped this dark yellow and extremely foamy urine like I've never seen before. I believe both dilution and the right water was the key. Now I drink that brand of water everyday and add some minerals here and there.

Now, this will probably look and sound like kidney failure to doctors, but in reality, it seems to be "stuck" toxins since lab results and semi-daily self-performed urinalysis checks aren't abnormal.

Now what are these toxins? I have no idea, and haven't found anyone who has an answer. From what I've read, I think the foam may very well be dead candida, but I am not sure about everything else.

Wonder if anyone else here has answers. Methyl B12, folate, and P5P seem to keep the toxins flowing, but if I release too much they seem to get stuck and require dilution again.

I know this sounds very strange, and this is probably a stranger post, but it's all very real. I've noticed absent and semi-absent lunulas on my fingers are now starting to grow quite large for the first time in years, so I think this is all a good sign. I just don't understand what could make me so toxic. I was living in Lake Tahoe when I got sick - where some of the sickest CFS patients are from - so I think the cause may possibly be some kind of natural environmental toxin. I don't believe there was any mold in my house.

Has anyone ever heard of cyanobacteria and cyanotoxins? I've read some real interesting stuff about those and their presence in areas with CFS outbreaks.

I have Lyme/CFS by the way. Lyme was discovered first, and then CFS. I am believing more and more that you must have CFS and some form of XMRV to have chronic Lyme. I don't believe in the mainstream thought that CFS is a diagnosis of exclusion. Even though the government and ignorant researchers haven't believed this for 25 years, there are actually many biomarkers for CFS, and I meet most of the abnormalities.

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Beverly
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Hi,
I have never heard of cyanobacteria and cyanotoxins, but I sure believe we can be very toxic. I experience the same thing.

Are you tlaking about the half moons on your finger nails? Iodine may help you with that, atleast it did for my son.

Hope you feel better..

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quote:
Originally posted by Beverly:
Hi,
I have never heard of cyanobacteria and cyanotoxins, but I sure believe we can be very toxic. I experience the same thing.

Are you tlaking about the half moons on your finger nails? Iodine may help you with that, atleast it did for my son.

Hope you feel better..

Yes, that's what I am talking about.

I would be worried about supplementing iodine because of shellfish allergies. I know some claim an iodine allergy is a myth, and some say the opposite.

I don't see why you can't have a dose dependent iodine sensitivity even though it's essential. I believe they even use a different contrast when you mark a shellfish allergy while getting an MRI or other radiology.

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Hmmm I didn't know it could cause allergies, never heard of that.

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Hi
I think the foam is dead bacteria, what we call neurotoxins and that sticks in the nerves... that is why we feel sooo tired and legs and arms feel so heavy... the problem is that even though that foam keeps moving, it is reabsorbed by the intestines, back to the brain... there are some very interesting articles by dr klighardt on this subject and that is why detox is of key importance. to me, xmrv and cfs sound more like a genetic condition that make us unable to detox... other will genetically develop ms or parkinson instead...

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By the way, i have just noticed that i almost do not have those half moons on my fingers, what does that mean? Are those half moons a sign of good detox? Thanks for your answer...
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Wow, just read that the absence of those half moons indicates a major lack of B 12, the problem is that i feel sick every time i take b12...
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quote:
Originally posted by Shahbah:
Wow, just read that the absence of those half moons indicates a major lack of B 12, the problem is that i feel sick every time i take b12...

Some are intolerant to certain forms of B12 because of genetic mutations. There are several forms of B12. Methyl B12 and Adenosyl B12 are what we call the active forms of B12. Inactive forms are Hydroxy B12 and Cyano B12. Avoid cyano. I think cyano is the most common form in the U.S. because it doesn't break down easily, doesn't have to be compounded like the others, can be stored at room temperatures, and it's cheap. Most other countries don't use this form. You can get cyanide toxicity from too much cyanocobalamin.

Some can only tolerate a low dose of B12, and most with CFS take low doses of hydroxy B12. I take a much higher dose than most of these people and find shots much more effective than oral sublinguals for me. I crave B12 like one would crave food.

Your reaction can also be a detox reaction, and detox reaction goes away after a while. You can't really know for sure what's best for you unless you are thoroughly tested through (expensive) specialty labs.

And yes, B12 improves my half moons. They were non-existant without it. Even though they are really only on my thumbs right now (you should have them on atleast 3 fingers), they are starting to grow quite large in comparison to how small they were. Lunulae (or lack of) can mean many things. In my case, I think it has to do with an imbalanced nervous system.

While no cure, B12 makes a huge difference in the way my nervous system responds to input.

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half moon white marks on your fingernails are indicative of KPU (primarily zinc deficiency)

Get minerals of life and use it.

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quote:
Originally posted by djf2005:
half moon white marks on your fingernails are indicative of KPU (primarily zinc deficiency)

They're not talking about the white marks that indicate KPU, they're talking about the moons at the base of the nails that are supposed to be there.

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So interesting...I just started methyl B-12 shots and my half moons have returned on my thumbs - white and clear!

The B-12 shots have done wonders for me. I take the shot and immediately my constant headache, pain, and neuro. problems diminish. On my B-12 shot days, I feel the best I've felt in a long, long time.

I also have been taking Deplin which is a prescription folic acid, but have found that this causes major brain fog and anxiety and arm weakness. This is also supposed to help with detox. Any ideas why it would cause an increase in these symptoms?

Does the C4a number correlate with how toxic you are??

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gotcha. in my case the white marks were moon shaped so i was a bit confused...

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I had those, too, Derek.

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I've been doing B12 shots daily for at least a year, and the only half moons I have are on my thumbs.???
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quote:
Originally posted by keltyl:
I've been doing B12 shots daily for at least a year, and the only half moons I have are on my thumbs.???

Everyone is different. Most should have moons on at least 6 fingers. You may have some kind of imbalance, or it may be normal for you. However, I would generally lean towards an imbalance since you are ill. If you look at healthy people they usually have them on 6 or more fingers, including large ones on thumbs.

I've been taking B12 shots for several months, and it's funny how this weird detox I am experiencing now is changing both the size and whiteness of my lunulae. The B12 shots help as well, but it's not just B12.

It may sound weird, but I pay attention to my fingernails. They say a lot. For an example, I have had heart issues since being sick, and my nails started clubbing some. Intuitive doctors who still examine their patients have recognized this, but a proper physical exam is rare these days. This can be a sign of a heart problem or stress on the heart or circulatory system, but of course nothing comes up with the typical western medicine technology. Go figure.

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