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one4islands
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I was dx with Interstitial Cystitis a year prior to my Lyme dx.

I've managed to keep those symptoms under control through proper diet.

If I have a flare it's because I strayed (acidic foods or chocolate).

For the past 5 days I've been peeing in the daytime about every hour and overnight about every two-three hours.

Lots of pee (volume) and very light in color with urgency, pressure. No pain urinating.

I am not drinking additional fluids, so this is not the cause.

Hoping someone else out there has experienced the same and can offer an answer.


I started eating cucumbers, but had none for two days to see if this was the cause. Still peeing alot.

I've eaten a daily bowl of Quinoa flakes with only water added for the past 4 mornings. Could this be the cause?

I've eaten a few slices of tukey lunchmeat no nitrates, all natural for the past 5 days? Could this be the cause?

I recently started Cleo (Clindamycin)6 days now. Could this be the cause?

Usually I can pin point the cause, but I am stumped.

Other than the Clindamycin no other meds have changed.

Thanks

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I would suspect the clindamycin .. but I have no data to support my GUESS! I think it is just more likely than the other things you mentioned.

When my IC was bad, I could barely make 30 min. .. but I think it's the volume you're wondering about, right?

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I was reading your post, and knew that was exactly what happened to me!

Then I read that it started when you began Clindamycin, and I couldn't believe it. Me too!

Before my lyme diagnosis, I was on IV Clindamycin for reactive arthritis. I also had urinary urgency and UTI's associated with my illness. After my first round of IV Clindamycin, about two days later, began to urinate constantly for a day and a half (25 times).

My opinion is the Clindamycin was getting to the source of the infection, and it is also detoxing. I am still on IV Clindamycin monthly, and the symptom you've described have almost completely subsided, but it took a while.

I think it's a GOOD THING!

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Wow-thanks, but that isn't what I wanted to hear-lol.

I need the abx, but the pressure, volume and urgency is uncomfortable to say the least.

Fortuntately I work within 20 mins of home, but getting stuck in traffic and feeling like you are going to bust is not a situation I like to be in.

I always try to look for the postive in every negative situation. So, it could be diarrhea instead, so I suppose I'll be happy w/ the pee.

I am going to a long awaited concert on Friday night.

I may stop the abx for two days so I can endure standing in a long line and the hour drive.

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Good idea on stopping the abx for the big concert! Hope it works!

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Hmmm,

I pee large amounts and often too. Also clear. I always thought that clear urine was a good thing...i mean when i urinate the bowl looks like clear water.

I then read that this isn't necessarily good.

I have been doing this for at least 3 years and it is not dependent on one medication.

I also know that urgency can be a symptom of lyme....sorry no real answer as to 'why' but you're not the only one experiencing this...

maybe that makes you feel a bit less aprehensive?

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Sounds like you got good answers above.

I'll add that Borrelia is *always* in the bladder in all the species it inhabits. Borrelia is often found in urine. So, my LLMD reminds me that Lyme can cause just about anything in terms of urination frequency, urgency, incontinence, etc.

I had "urge incontinence" diagnoses. Used to urinate SO often it was incredible; sometimes every 20 minutes! More frequent than anyone else I was around, for at least the past 15 yrs. But I'm much better!

I think improvement came about three months into treatment with my LLMD. I've been treating Borrelia & Babs. Dx with bartonellosis too, but not tx it yet.

I've not taken clindamycin. Never had a urinary tract infection (Praise God!).

Have hope! My LLMD gave me the impression that urgency and incontinence are symptoms of Lyme that clear with appropriate LD treatment.

An ultrasound tech told me it takes 2 hrs for liquids we drink to reach our bladder. I think that's preposterous, at least for this Lymie!

General note about diet: It's best for most to rotate foods, not eat the same thing day after day. Quinoa is great! Try alternating that with oat bran, millet rice cereal, eggs, brown rice with almonds & veggies, etc.

Same for the turkey. Alternate that healthy choice with other high-protein options. Freeze what you buy into smaller serving sizes. Try turkey just every 4th day?

That's a general health tip, not tied to urination issues imho.

Have a blast at the concert!

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Thanks to all.

I was dx with IC after 6 months of pelvic pain. It took 3 drs. to give me an answer.

I've always peed alot, assumed it was weak bladder due to hormones/child birth.

Once I changed my diet, the pain went away. Though the frequency is still there.

The urgency/volume is the craziest thing.

I tell my husband it's as if I drank an entire 6 pack of beer in 20 mins. I could fill up buckets in no time.

If I had to do a 24 hr. urine test, the big jug wouldn't hold it all-lol.

I took MSM w/ glucosamine about two months ago and the same thing happened though without the pressure.

As soon as I stopped the pills, the volume/pressure stopped.

Funny story now, but not then, before our annual Caribbean vacation, I was constipated.

I decided what harm could one hot cup of decaf green tea do to my IC?

Well, it hit me in about an hour and I peed every 10 mins from 11am until 100am and we were due to drive to the airport at 3am.

I didn't know how I'd make it. TG it stopped.

I'll never drink green tea again.

Remember to smile-I am a creature of habit. Before my lyme diet, I always ate the same things for breakfast and lunch.

I've had so many stomach issues that if I found something that didn't bother me I'd stick with it. I will take your advice and add a variety.

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I did some reseach on Clindamycin and found that
decreased urination is a side affect, not increased??? Maybe you should talk to your doctor.

Clindamycin Side Effects
Common side effects that may occur during Clindamycin treatment or weeks after treatment has stopped include:

Abdominal pain or stomach cramps
Diarrhea
Nausea
Vomiting
Pain when swallowing
White patches in the mouth
Joint pain
Thick, white vaginal discharge
Vaginal swelling, burning, or itching
Contact a doctor if any side effects worsen or do not go away. More serious side effects that may indicate serious complications include:

Yellowing of the skin or eyes (jaundice)
Decreased urination
Fever
Skin rash
Difficulty breathing
Hives
Blisters

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Thanks Steve, that's the same info I found. I appreciate you taking the time to research that for me.

I skipped my abx last night, so far the frequent urination seems to have eased.

We shall see if that continues throughout the day and evening.

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24 hours without a dose of clindamycin and the frequent urination/pressure/volume has stopped.

I will resume abx and Saturday and see if it starts back up.

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I have the exact same symptoms you do, and have had them for the entire 25 yrs. of my illness. At first it was funny, and friends called me "Peanut bladder". That was before I knew I had Lyme.

My integrative doctor did a metals and minerals test on me (hair sample). She was not doing it with regard to the urination problem, but just looking for any problems, and the lab that read my results had no idea I had this problem.

The report that came back stated that I had a severe calcium/magnesium imbalance that should be causing constriction of my bladder, reduced bladder capacity, and frequency and urgency of urination.

Since we Lymies see our magnesium disappear almost as soon as we swallow it, this should be no surprise. It is one reason why I avoid calcium supps. and take magnesium supps. 3 times a day.

Curious to see if the report was right, I then started peeing in a large measuring cup for a couple of days, wrote each amt. down and averaged them. I know from working in a hospital that normal bladder capacity is 2 cups. Mine was only 1/2 cup. No wonder I pee so much. You might try this and see what your capacity is.

I have found no solution to this. If I take any more magnesium than I already do, I get diarrhea. I can't eat less of calcium foods, since I have osteopenia.

I had a Fibro dx first, and Fibro researchers say this problem is due to low levels of anti-diuretic hormone, but that the problem is mild enough that the dangerous medication for that should be avoided.
I do know two Lymies who tried the medication and both got very ill. Neither took a second dose.

These Fibro docs say the best current solution is just to "keep on drinking like a fish and peeing like a race horse", because too much peeing without replacing the fluids can cause a serious electrolyte imbalance. So, that is what I do. It has really limited my life, but not as much as some of my other symptoms, so I accept it.

I could never go to a concert, for example. The over stimulation alone would send me to the ER with an abnormal heart rhythm (PSVT), and I'd be lucky not to black out. I can't drive anymore either, and have zero night vision.

I am glad you can still enjoy such outings and hope you have a great time. Please don't let having to pee while you are there get you down.

klutzo

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2 things have helped me avoid peeing at night.
Adding additional salt to my evening meal and licorice root tea. I think for me the problem stemmed from innapropriate aldosterone secretion
from the adrenal glands.

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