LymeNet Home LymeNet Home Page LymeNet Flash Discussion LymeNet Support Group Database LymeNet Literature Library LymeNet Legal Resources LymeNet Medical & Scientific Abstract Database LymeNet Newsletter Home Page LymeNet Recommended Books LymeNet Tick Pictures Search The LymeNet Site LymeNet Links LymeNet Frequently Asked Questions About The Lyme Disease Network LymeNet Menu

LymeNet on Facebook

LymeNet on Twitter




The Lyme Disease Network receives a commission from Amazon.com for each purchase originating from this site.

When purchasing from Amazon.com, please
click here first.

Thank you.

LymeNet Flash Discussion
Dedicated to the Bachmann Family

LymeNet needs your help:
LymeNet 2020 fund drive


The Lyme Disease Network is a non-profit organization funded by individual donations.

LymeNet Flash Post New Topic  New Poll  Post A Reply
my profile | directory login | register | search | faq | forum home

  next oldest topic   next newest topic
» LymeNet Flash » Questions and Discussion » Medical Questions » azithromycin for Bart?

 - UBBFriend: Email this page to someone!    
Author Topic: azithromycin for Bart?
rdl113
Member
Member # 31384

Icon 1 posted      Profile for rdl113     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I saw my LLMD for the first time today. He took blood to check for co-infections and added azith to my doxy, saying he believes I probably have Bart. Has anyone used this combo with success, I have seen other ones for Bart on here, not this.
Posts: 32 | From Norristown, Pa. | Registered: Apr 2011  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
little_olive
LymeNet Contributor
Member # 28063

Icon 1 posted      Profile for little_olive     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Zith and Doxy would kill bartonella in the same way, by stopping it from replicating (bacteriostatic), but from what I know you need to be on something that outright kills it (bacteriocidal), like Rifampin, because bacterostatic alone isn't enough. It will at least get your levels down, though! Bart is one of my main problems and I experienced a LOT of improvement just on Doxycycline alone. He may add Rifampin or something else later on.

Also, FYI, you canNOT rule out bartonella just by testing. It shows up less than 20% of the time even if it's blatantly obvious. *points to self*


little olive

--------------------
Myalgic encephalomyelitis, 2002 | Viral onset, following Hep B vaccine
Lyme since '06 | Bartonella since '08 (cured) | Mycoplasma pneumoniae since '08
IGeneX: IgM 31IND 34IND 41+ | IgG 39IND 58+ 41+++
IgG deficiencies and MTHFR 677TT mutations

Posts: 512 | From USA | Registered: Sep 2010  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
annier1071
LymeNet Contributor
Member # 28977

Icon 1 posted      Profile for annier1071     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Little Olive..uggh dont say the word rifampin to me. I am still trying to get over the effects of 2 doses!!

It surely does kill bart but between the omnicef and zithro I was one and the adding it to the mix I had a severe and dangerous herx. I think it is best to take the doxy and zithro for awhile to cut down some of the lyme before attacking bart too.

--------------------
Diagnosed with chronic neuro lyme 12/10 after 30 years of vertigo.2 tick bites in 3 yrs from upstate NY. Was on omincef for nine mths..zith and rifampin stopped.Remission~ All the pain and symptoms are back and I am not treating now with biaxin.

Posts: 788 | From New york..queens | Registered: Nov 2010  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
little_olive
LymeNet Contributor
Member # 28063

Icon 1 posted      Profile for little_olive     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
It's the best overall antibiotic for bartonella, but starting slow is necessary. I know a lady who had to start at just 50mg and build her way up. You are one of "those" cases annier. (Also your mailbox is full, you need to clear some stuff out because no one can reply to your PMs. [Wink] )

--------------------
Myalgic encephalomyelitis, 2002 | Viral onset, following Hep B vaccine
Lyme since '06 | Bartonella since '08 (cured) | Mycoplasma pneumoniae since '08
IGeneX: IgM 31IND 34IND 41+ | IgG 39IND 58+ 41+++
IgG deficiencies and MTHFR 677TT mutations

Posts: 512 | From USA | Registered: Sep 2010  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
marypart
LymeNet Contributor
Member # 27012

Icon 1 posted      Profile for marypart     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Hm, so zith hits bart? Maybe my cycling digestive pains/consitipation/heartburn are bart herxs caused by taking azithromycin? I'm only taking 250mg 3 times a week, with ceftin twice a day.

I thought the heartburn might be from the ceftin, but skipping a few days of ceftin doesn't seem to have any effect.

--------------------
Son, 26, Dx Lyme 4/10, Babs 8/10
Had serious arthritis, all gone.
Currently on Valtrex
Daughter, 26,bullseye 7/11
arthritis in knees, cured and off all meds. .
Self:Lyme, bart, sxs gone, no longer treating.

Posts: 496 | From Washington, DC | Registered: Jul 2010  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
little_olive
LymeNet Contributor
Member # 28063

Icon 1 posted      Profile for little_olive     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Zithro treats Lyme, mycoplasma, Babesia, and bartonella...probably other things, too! It gives me digestive problems if I take it without a meal.
Posts: 512 | From USA | Registered: Sep 2010  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
rdl113
Member
Member # 31384

Icon 1 posted      Profile for rdl113     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
thanks for the input everyone.
Posts: 32 | From Norristown, Pa. | Registered: Apr 2011  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
CherylSue
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 13077

Icon 1 posted      Profile for CherylSue     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
good info
Posts: 1954 | From Illinois | Registered: Aug 2007  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
SScott
Member
Member # 30415

Icon 1 posted      Profile for SScott     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
OI do not think Zithro is not a primary abx for bart, but does provide some minor coverage along with Lyme. It did give me tinnitus. Stop at the first sign of it. My Bart did not start getting better until I went on Rifampin and then 1 month later adde Septra. Those two in combo are the most recommended (at lease by Dr B's protocol).
Posts: 32 | From Atlanta | Registered: Feb 2011  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Beagle
LymeNet Contributor
Member # 29698

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Beagle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Been on Zithro & Plaquenil but LLMD says those are for the Lyme? But all my reading says Zithro does hit Bart. ?


again, everything seems so convaluted the longer I am sick and the more I learn, the more I doubt what Godforsaken disease this is!

Posts: 348 | From MA | Registered: Dec 2010  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
little_olive
LymeNet Contributor
Member # 28063

Icon 1 posted      Profile for little_olive     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Zithro definitely hit bart, but the bacteria will become resistant pretty quickly, so it's best used in combination when treating chronic infections like ours.

Rifampin and Zithro are a common combination.

Posts: 512 | From USA | Registered: Sep 2010  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
karenl
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 17753

Icon 1 posted      Profile for karenl     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Doxy and zithro is a protocol for chlamydophylia pneumonia ( which has nothing to do with lungs - it is in the bloodstream).

Cpn is very often a co-infection to lyme.
If you herx on doxy and zithro it may also be a herx from cpn.
Details on cpnhelp.org.

Posts: 1834 | From US | Registered: Oct 2008  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
little_olive
LymeNet Contributor
Member # 28063

Icon 1 posted      Profile for little_olive     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Ironically, the combination of Rifampin and Zithro is ALSO a highly effective treatment for C. pneumoniae! [Smile]

--------------------
Myalgic encephalomyelitis, 2002 | Viral onset, following Hep B vaccine
Lyme since '06 | Bartonella since '08 (cured) | Mycoplasma pneumoniae since '08
IGeneX: IgM 31IND 34IND 41+ | IgG 39IND 58+ 41+++
IgG deficiencies and MTHFR 677TT mutations

Posts: 512 | From USA | Registered: Sep 2010  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
   

Quick Reply
Message:

HTML is not enabled.
UBB Code is enabled.

Instant Graemlins
   


Post New Topic  New Poll  Post A Reply Close Topic   Feature Topic   Move Topic   Delete Topic next oldest topic   next newest topic
 - Printer-friendly view of this topic
Hop To:


Contact Us | LymeNet home page | Privacy Statement

© 1993-2020 The Lyme Disease Network of New Jersey, Inc.
All Rights Reserved.
Use of the LymeNet Site is subject to the Terms and Conditions.

Powered by UBB.classic™ 6.7.3


The Lyme Disease Network is a non-profit organization funded by individual donations. If you would like to support the Network and the LymeNet system of Web services, please send your donations to:

The Lyme Disease Network of New Jersey
907 Pebble Creek Court, Pennington, NJ 08534 USA


| Flash Discussion | Support Groups | On-Line Library
Legal Resources | Medical Abstracts | Newsletter | Books
Pictures | Site Search | Links | Help/Questions
About LymeNet | Contact Us

© 1993-2020 The Lyme Disease Network of New Jersey, Inc.
All Rights Reserved.
Use of the LymeNet Site is subject to Terms and Conditions.