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birdie67
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After 2 years of talking and thinking about it, I'm finally going to Germany to be treatd by DR W.

I will be going in the beginning of Sept. Please wish me luck. I'm nervous to leave my family for 3-4 weeks but SO excited to hopefully get well. I already have my own PE-1 to do follow up care at home with when I get back.

[ 08-08-2014, 09:03 PM: Message edited by: sixgoofykids ]

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hope all goes well for you!
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congrats. Good luck!!!
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Good luck!

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Best wishes. Hope you stay at the Klein house!

Please keep us posted on the treatment. I went several years ago and it really helped and then he only treated Lyme and not co-infections.

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Good thoughts to you :-).

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That's awesome! Good luck! [Smile]

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All the best! :)

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I lived in Germany for five years. loved it. good luck.

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Great news! Good Luck birdie [Smile]
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Germany is beautiful. Hope you get to look around.
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Thank you guys, so much!! I will keep you all posted [Smile]
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Bonne chance, Birdie!
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Good luck!
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So happy for you, Birdie! Good luck!

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Yay! Hope it all goes well!

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Contact address and number if interested in the hypericin + yellow laser treatment for lyme too:

http://www.webermedical.com/en/contact/

German address and phone. At least ASK Dr. W about it. (Maybe more open to "alternative" solutions/approaches.)

There ARE many reasons WHY this absolutely CAN work!!!

Möge Gott Sie segnen!

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best of luck!

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Hi birdie,
Ask Dr. W. to show you how to use biotensor- he has one. He can help you to order one from Bioplasma if you want.

For me, it was the magic touch when he showed me how to use Biotensor. Before that I had problems.

Best of luck!!!

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Fantastic! Best wishes for your healing!
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Are you staying with the Kleins?

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Best of luck keep us posted.
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Can someone tell me who Dr. W is?
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Lassie, I've sent you a message, but I do not have his current contact information.

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Linky123, Yes I am staying with the Klein's [Smile]

Thank you al for the best wishes. I can't wait!

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Birdie67, tell them I said "Hi'!!! Dr. W, too!

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Please give everyone a big hug for us too!

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We're almost in September!

Very good luck, Birdie!!!!

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What is a PE-1? Do you have a European strain? What is reason to travel to Germany, aside from vacationing with the Kleins, beer, and atmosphere?

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Great news Birdie, best of luck. [Smile]

Maybe you could take some of Marnie's research on the yellow laser from some of her posts to Dr. W. You might find he's been looking into it. And if not maybe he should. Just go to the posts and print them and take them with you.

Birdie you might become a link to a new german treatment, its up to you. The most important thing is to get well. Only do it if it isn't inconvenient.

Hermit -- A pe-1 is a 60 foot shark just found off the water's of South Africa. My bad, its a beer you can find in most German Pubs these days. [lol] Couldn't help self hermit, forgive me, my sense of humor gets the best of me.

The PE-1 is an LED triggering off two wavelengths, one is 880 nm the are a smaller number of infrared LED, my memory is being stretched here, I think it's about 630 nm. The specification are in the following link:

http://www.photonicenergetics.com/PE-1%20Brouchure%20v.1.pdf

Dr W. has a similar device called a bionic 880.

http://bionic-880.com/index.html

A lot of folks on this site have gone to Germany for their unique therapy in lyme disease. Dr. W. uses this LED device with something called a blood nosode. It is homeopathic remedy from your own blood. it is taped to your solar plexus during LED treatment. The LED is placed over 11 parts of the body for several minutes. The 7 chakra locations, both ears and wrists. At least this is how I remember it. He uses magnesium IV. You're given time to detoxify in between treatments.

I've done the same protocol using a PE-1 a similar device without going to Germany. So has Brussels and a few others. Brussels has gotten herself well as well as her daughter. Using this technique and others.

I'll show you a PE-1 at a support group meeting.

There is a lot of information in the lyme community about differing treatment options. Some of it may sound like science fiction at times. The problem is trying to comprehend all these choices while you're sick.

Bionic 880 and PE-1 are very alternative choices to attack lyme and friends. Many don't believe in their efficacy, but many do.

There are physicians in Germany who are doing lyme protocols with a PE-1 (quite successfully -- there lyme cure rate is higher than here). There are no LLMD's in the U.S. I know of doing this protocol. One of the major reasons is because homeopathy is not accepted by western medicine. ( let me say : stupid, idiotic, allopathic medicine structure in western medicine -- based on the profits of big pharma, woo feel better now that being said).

Homeopathy in India is selected above western medicine. I know tooooo many folks from India who swear by it and none them know how it works. I probably work with 300 Indians from India. It is also very big in Europe among many practitioners along with many places in Asia.

So Hermit, do a little research on homeopathy and LED therapy. [Smile]

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I have a two wave length LED lamp. It isn't referred to a PE-1. Red nm are for wrinkles through boosting collagen production. and Blue nm are for bacteria- makes them burst.

I suppose i can figure out chakra points and take a magnesium pill before using it.

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My lamp is 415 and 660nm, Caribbean Sun. I bought it for "blue light therapy". I decided not to get another brand that offered three small heads to get 880nm - so I'm outta luck on this German idea. The 880 nm was being sold to help lesson pain in joints, arthritis.... Which at the time I did not think I had.

BTW - I was making light of my ignorance Bob and appreciate your comments in return. : o )

Safe travels Birdie and May you find much success.

Edit: as an afterthought, I wonder if laser Skincare cosmetic spas in US offer this light therapy under a different name?

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Love your sense of humor, Bob! Always good to have a good laugh [Smile]
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Dr. W does not use the bionic 880 anymore. He had a new infrared machine designed, I believe, but I don't know much about it.

Hiker53

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I guess I've been a little out of touch. Thanks Hiker.

thanks Birdie, I'd do standup, but who would see me here. (ba dum bump)

Sometime ago I worked for now defunct Digital Equipment Corp. and one of my co workers was moonlighting as a comic at the comedy connection in Boston. At the time Jay Leno was starting his comedy career and doing standup there. And my buddy couldn't do standup and would open with being the best sit down comic in Boston -- he was a quadriplegic. He was a great friend at the time and a great sense of humor. It would be fun seeing his take at doing the tonight show.

Somehow when you said I had a good sense of humor reminded me of him.

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I don’t know who Dr. W is, but I hope Dr. W cures you. Have a wonderful journey. I hope only good results come from your trip!

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Hermit, that is the kind of therapy that the light is approved for. Dr. W developed a protocol to treat Lyme with it. I did the treatment in Germany back in 2008 and am well today.

The advantage of going to see Dr. W is both for the support (the detox can be big) of the detox IV's he uses AND for the stronger nosodes he uses that aren't available here.

I don't know what these stronger nosodes are. He told me they can only be used in doctor's offices or labs over there and only highly specialized labs here. I thought he told me they actually had the bacteria in them, but some have told me they are only the mother tincture (but mother tincture shouldn't be so highly regulated). At any rate, it is stronger than we can use here and his IV's help.

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quote:
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Still Winning (formerly We’ll Win till Lymenet said We’ll Win was no longer registered)

You might try again. There was some kind of glitch and everyone was unregistered.

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God bless

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How's birdie doing?

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Any updates?

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Any word on how it's going
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Not sure if Birdie has been on here lately but just wondering how things went with the Germany treatment. Have there been any updates?

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Any updates?
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Hi all,

I had to put off going until the spring. I have some sinus stuff I'm addressing first and hope to go early spring.

I have been using my PE-1 at home with some mold vials and have been having good results.

I will update after I go. Happy holidays to all [Smile]

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Thanks for letting us know birdie67. Best of luck when you go.
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