LymeNet Home LymeNet Home Page LymeNet Flash Discussion LymeNet Support Group Database LymeNet Literature Library LymeNet Legal Resources LymeNet Medical & Scientific Abstract Database LymeNet Newsletter Home Page LymeNet Recommended Books LymeNet Tick Pictures Search The LymeNet Site LymeNet Links LymeNet Frequently Asked Questions About The Lyme Disease Network LymeNet Menu

LymeNet on Facebook

LymeNet on Twitter



Tax deductible

The Lyme Disease Network receives a commission from Amazon.com for each purchase originating from this site.

When purchasing from Amazon.com, please
click here first.

Thank you.

LymeNet Flash Discussion
Dedicated to the Bachmann Family

LymeNet needs your help:
LymeNet fund drive


The Lyme Disease Network is a non-profit organization funded by individual donations.
In the United States, your donations are tax deductible.

LymeNet Flash Post New Topic  New Poll  Post A Reply
my profile | directory login | register | search | faq | forum home

  next oldest topic   next newest topic
» LymeNet Flash » Questions and Discussion » Medical Questions » Has anyone taken Ery-Tab

 - UBBFriend: Email this page to someone!    
Author Topic: Has anyone taken Ery-Tab
BuffyFan
LymeNet Contributor
Member # 34679

Icon 1 posted      Profile for BuffyFan     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
for delayed gastric emptying? It worked for me, but now I think it was causing tinnitus. [Frown] It was such a small dose though. 1/4 of a 250 mg pill each night. I haven't taken it for 2 nights and today, I haven't had any crickets chirping in my ear!
Posts: 287 | From somewhere | Registered: Oct 2011  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Keebler
Honored Contributor (25K+ posts)
Member # 12673

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Keebler         Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
-
Even at a very low dose . . . (and I've had this happen at low dose for many Rx tries, really, as odd as it seems . . . the ears are the first system to detect toxins in the body. Even a low dose can be too much for some ears).

Sadly, erthyromycin is ototoxic. So, the tinnitus could be either a herx reaction &/or a sign of ototoxicity for your ear system -- to back off, so to speak.

Ototoxic drugs can cause problems for more than just hearing, with balance, thinking, sensitivity to sound (hyperacusis).

The tough part is that lyme and other tick borne infections can damage ears and vestibular systems and cause all this, too.

It's hard to treat lyme without calling upon drugs that are ototoxic. Still, some are worse than others, or worse for particular individuals.

History of noise exposure also plays into an individual's ability to handle an ototoxic drug but anytime there is tinnitus, that can be a sign of damage . . . and sometimes that can be turned around, sometimes, not.

LIVER SUPPORT is the best helper.

Some have to look to other kinds of treatment like RIFE, HERBS, etc.

I'm really out of steam now but will post a few links for you in the coming minutes.
-

[ 10-02-2014, 07:16 PM: Message edited by: Keebler ]

Posts: 48001 | From Tranquil Tree House in my dreams | Registered: Jul 2007  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Keebler
Honored Contributor (25K+ posts)
Member # 12673

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Keebler         Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
-
Bauman is the expert on ototoxic and vestibular toxic agents. While this document is quite entailed, it is very important to get the book as so many are not listed anywhere on the web.

His 3rd edition of Ototoxic Drugs is the most current. He also has some web pages & another book on how to cope with tinnitus, but, IMO, it's not really geared to those with lyme / TBD as they have so many complex matters to handle.

More about that later.

Ery-Tab (Erythromycin Delayed Release Tablets)

http://www.hearinglosshelp.com/articles/pdf/TinnitusDrugList2013.pdf

Prescription Medications, Over-the-Counter Drugs,
Herbs & Chemicals Associated with Tinnitus

2013 Edition - 30 pages - Compiled by Neil G. Bauman, Ph.D.

Page 12 lists Ery-Tab & other forms of Erythromycin
-

Posts: 48001 | From Tranquil Tree House in my dreams | Registered: Jul 2007  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Keebler
Honored Contributor (25K+ posts)
Member # 12673

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Keebler         Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
-
http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=030792;p=0

LIVER & KIDNEY SUPPORT & and several HERXHEIMER support links, too.


http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=065801

Topic: TINNITUS: Ringing Between The Ears; Vestibular, Balance, Hearing with compiled links - including HYPERACUSIS
-

Posts: 48001 | From Tranquil Tree House in my dreams | Registered: Jul 2007  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Keebler
Honored Contributor (25K+ posts)
Member # 12673

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Keebler         Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
-
http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=117755;p=0

Topic: RIFE Machine - Reference LINKS
-

Posts: 48001 | From Tranquil Tree House in my dreams | Registered: Jul 2007  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Keebler
Honored Contributor (25K+ posts)
Member # 12673

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Keebler         Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
-
If you are not taking the erthyromycin for lyme or other serious infection, I would not take it at all. You say it's to help with delayed gastric emptying. There are many other ways to approach that without serious Rx that can cause damage.

Of course, it can be lyme / TBD related and if so, then we are back to "well, then, just how in the world to hit lyme / TBD hard and not mess up the ears or vestibular system?" And that sends you back to better liver / support or other ways to address the infection connection if that's the deal.

Some excellent holistic detail here, not so much for infection connection yet to address some of the gut issues that can also go along with the delayed gastric emptying:

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=119808;p=0

Topic: Treatment / Support for Gastroparesis


And the delayed gastric emptying could have to do with some nerve damage. A LL ND may be able to help with things like certain medicinal mushrooms (Lion's Mane is said to be helpful to nerves that have been damaged, etc.)
-

Posts: 48001 | From Tranquil Tree House in my dreams | Registered: Jul 2007  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Keebler
Honored Contributor (25K+ posts)
Member # 12673

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Keebler         Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
-
http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=034408;p=0

RHUBARB - for colon support
-

Posts: 48001 | From Tranquil Tree House in my dreams | Registered: Jul 2007  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
BuffyFan
LymeNet Contributor
Member # 34679

Icon 1 posted      Profile for BuffyFan     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Keebler, thanks so much for the info! It will take me time to read everything but I will!
Posts: 287 | From somewhere | Registered: Oct 2011  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
surprise
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 34987

Icon 1 posted      Profile for surprise     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Buffyfan, I'm sorry I have no helpful tips here, but wondering: how does an antibiotic help with delayed gastric emptying?
Thanks.

--------------------
Lyme positive PCR blood, and
positive Bartonella henselae Igenex, 2011.
low positive Fry biofilm test, 2012.
Update 7/16- After extensive treatments,
doing okay!

Posts: 2518 | From USA | Registered: Nov 2011  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
BuffyFan
LymeNet Contributor
Member # 34679

Icon 1 posted      Profile for BuffyFan     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I"m not sure. I think somehow it stimulates the muscles in the intestines.
Posts: 287 | From somewhere | Registered: Oct 2011  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
   

Quick Reply
Message:

HTML is not enabled.
UBB Code is enabled.

Instant Graemlins
   


Post New Topic  New Poll  Post A Reply Close Topic   Feature Topic   Move Topic   Delete Topic next oldest topic   next newest topic
 - Printer-friendly view of this topic
Hop To:


Contact Us | LymeNet home page | Privacy Statement

© 1993-2019 The Lyme Disease Network of New Jersey, Inc.
All Rights Reserved.
Use of the LymeNet Site is subject to the Terms and Conditions.

Powered by UBB.classic™ 6.7.3


Home | Flash Discussion | Support Groups | On-Line Library
Legal Resources | Medical Abstracts | Newsletter | Books
Pictures | Site Search | Links | Help/Questions
About LymeNet | Webmaster