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Tcoach1
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What is the level of vitamin D which is a "normal: range? I understand that Vitamin d defficiany is apart of lyme. I tested out a level of 29 ng.
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Very marginally low. Just under the mark. But, living in Tampa, you should be higher. I'd think something is taking your D or you aren't absorbing it correctly. Could be infection/virus.

I think 30 or so is the bottom of the range. But it's different for everyone. I tested at 13, but live in NE Ohio.

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Make sure you are getting plenty of high quality magnesium.

Lack of mag can affect Vit D levels and too much Vit D can lower mag. So .. get after it!

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I was told yesterday that VItamin K can help with Vitamin D. I am deficient in VItamin D, Zinc and Iodine - from yesterday's tests. I will be adding Zinc and Vitamin K to my supplements - I already take between 2000 to 5000 IU of Vitamin D.

Apparently Lyme Disease and Coinfections mess with the body's digestive system and prevent the absorption of lots of nutrients.

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I think my doc said to get it up in the 70 range. 29 is definitely low.
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Vitamin K2, right???

Vit K2 keeps the calcium from going into the arteries. Keeps it in the bones.

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Yes K2 ... I have been given Life Extension Super K with advanced K2 complex .... and with my super-elevated cholesterol levels right now, I see this will be very helpful!
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Very good!

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My doc would say 60-80 is really what one would want.
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As I understand it, a low level of "vitamin" D can be an indication that the person is infected with a "stealth" bacterial infection, such as Lyme.
According to scientists, these bacteria actually feed on the D so they grow stronger and larger in number.
The "Marshall Protocol" is an allopathic method of killing off stealth bacteria and there's lots of info on it over at the Marshall Protocol Knowledge Base (MPKB.com or .org). Type "vitamin D" into the search box.
I'm not suggesting anyone follow, or not follow, the MP (Marshall Protocol). I've been on it and it isn't easy but I believe the science is correct. (My heart improved a great deal on the MP.)
I avoid as much supplemental vitamin D as possible. By the way, it isn't even a vitamin - it's a precursor to a plant steroid. It can make people feel better in the short term but in the long run, you're only feeding the enemy. Pre-MP, I had Seasonal Affective Disorder. Taking D made it go away. After the MP, my S.A.D. is gone. The D only "worked" because it acted as a steroid or because I made my stealth bacteria happy - for a while. I'm not an expert on it so I don't know what mechanism was at work.
You might want to check out the research by (the late) Lida Mattman, PhD on "cell-wall-deficient" (CWD) bacteria.
I think there is definitely a correlation between chronic low levels of D and illness. But a deficiency isn't causing illness. It's just the opposite: Illness (bacterial infection) is causing the low D.

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I always supplemented with D3 during lyme, and after lyme. It does keep colds away, and it's one of the few supplements I keep on taking 'forever'.

I went to lyme remission WITH daily supplementation of D3 and I do take this supplement almost religiously in winter, and only stop it in summer.

It's one of the cheapest and most effective way of getting less colds, and when you get them, you're less bad than other people. I also give it to my daughter daily.

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There are some good studies that demonstrate the positive effect that vitamin D has on the immune system. It's more protective against the flu than the flu vaccination will ever be, and if you supplement and get the flu, the course will be shorter and less severe. The Marshall protocol is based on conjecture, and restricting vitamin D intake if you live in a temperate zone might well be a misadventure. People with sufficient levels of vitamin D tend to have fewer falls and accidents in general, possibly because it sharpens the awareness and reflexes.

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quote:
Originally posted by docluddite:
People with sufficient levels of vitamin D tend to have fewer fall and accidents in general, possibly because it sharpens the awareness and reflexes.

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Interesting!

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