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bcb1200
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Hi folks:

I thought I would list this as there wasn't a central place for all Bart symptoms. The first batch below are new based on the work from "The Better Health Guy" working with the Bart Experts.

Bartonella Symptom List from "Unravelling the Mystery of Bartonellosis" from the Townsend Letter - July 2015

Body System:
-General: Fatigue, malaise, chills, sweats, fevers, chronic fatigue, somnolence, restlessness, poor sleep

-Cardiovascular / Circulatory: Endocarditis, myocarditis, pericarditis, hemolytic anemia (through invasion and destruction of RBCs), hypertension, pulmonary embolism, systemic vasculitis, arrhythmias, ischemic stroke, cardiomegaly (enlargement of the heart), heart valve problems, palpitations

-Gastroinestinal: Poor appetite, weight loss, mild sore throat or feeling that one is about to get a sore throat, gastritis, muscle weakness leading to changes in speeded / strength / coordination of digestive organs, difficulty swallowing, elevated liver function tests (LFT), hepatomegaly (enlargement of the liver), GERD (acid reflux), jaundice, gallbladder dysfunction, granulomatous hepatitis,
peliosis hepatis, abdominal pain

-Head and Neck: Headaches (can be severe or ice pick-like), migraines, vision changes or deficits, blurred vision, double vision, dry eyes, red eyes, conjunctivitis, neuroretinitis (ocular inflammation), ocular neovascularization, uveitis, retinal vasculitis, eye pain, floaters, photophobia, Parinaud’s oculoglandular syndrome, papilledema, tinnitus, hyperacusis, nonhealing infections of the jawbone,
cavitations, devitalized teeth

-Hematological: Elevated VEGF, elevated LFTs, elevated alkaline phosphatase, pancytopenia, thrombocytopenia

-Immune: Immune suppression; weakened immune response

-Skin: Skin rashes, papules or papulovesicular rash, striae (stretch-mark appearance), acne, crusty scalp, Henoch-Schönlein purpura (purple spots on the skin), bacillary angiomatosis, petechiae, spider veins, varicose veins

-Lymphatic: Splenomegaly (enlargement of the spleen), lymphadenopathy (enlargement of the lymph nodes)

-Musculoskeletal: Fibromyalgia pain, pain in the soles of the feet (especially in the morning), ankle pain, rheumatoid arthritis, myositis inflammation of the muscles), myalgia, systemic lupus erythematosus, osteomyelitis, joint pain, knee pain, pain in the chest or sternum, twitching or fasciculations, subcutaneous nodules, osteolytic lesions, bone destruction, stiff legs, shin bone pain, granulomatous inflammation

-Neurological: Hallucinations, peripheral neuropathy, polyneuropathy, multiple sclerosis-like symptoms, transverse myelitis, encephalitis, meningitis, hyporeflexia or areflexia (below normal or absent reflexes), seizures, crawling sensations, burning sensations in the skin, vibrating or shooting sensations, tremors, cognitive deficit, memory loss, radiculitis, transverse myelitis, chronic demyelinating polyneuropathy, brain fog, temperature dysregulation, hyperesthesia (increase in sensitivity to stimuli)

-Psychological: Irritability, panic disorder, agitation, impulsivity, anxiety, depression, obsessive-compulsive thoughts or behaviors, anger, rage (often termed “Bartonella rage”), combative behavior, suicidal feelings, bipolar disorder, hallucinations, confusion, disorientation, mood swings, antisocial behavior


Bartonella Symptom List from Dr. S's book, The Lyme Disease Solution

Common symptoms of bartonellosis include:

___Fatigue (often with agitation, unlike Lyme disease, which is more exhaustion)

___Low grade fevers, especially morning and/or late afternoon, often associated with feelings of "coming down with the flu or a virus"

___Sweats, often morning or late afternoon (sometimes at night) - often described as "thick" or "sticky" in nature

___Headaches, especially frontal (often confused with sinus) or on top of head

___Eye symptoms including episodes of blurred vision, red eyes, dry eyes

___Ringing in the ears (tinnitus) and sometimes hearing problems (decreased or even increased sensitivity - so-called hyperacusis)

___Sore throats (recurring)

___Swollen glands, especially neck and under arms

___Anxiety and worry attacks; others perceive as "very anxious"

___Episodes of confusion and disorientation that are usually transient (and very scary); often can be seizure-like in nature

___Poor sleep (especially difficulty falling asleep); poor sleep quality

___Joint pain and stiffness (often both Left and Right sides as opposed to Lyme which is often on one side only with pain and stiffness that changes locations)

___Muscle pains especially the calves; may be twitching and cramping also

___Foot pain, more in the morning involving the heels or soles of the feet (sometimes misdiagnosed as plantar fasciitis)

___Nerve irritation symptoms which can be described as burning, vibrating, numb, shooting, etc.

___Tremors and/or muscle twitching

___Heart palpitations and strange chest pains

___Episodes of breathlessness

___Strange rashes recurring on the body often, red stretch marks, and peculiar tender lumps and nodules along the sides of the legs or arms, spider veins

___Gastrointestinal symptoms, abdominal pain and acid reflux

___Shin bone pain and tenderness


From Dr. B's Guidelines:

BARTONELLA & ”BARTONELLA-LIKE ORGANISMS”-
· Gradual onset of initial illness.
· CNS symptoms are out of proportion to the musculoskeletal ones- if a patient has no or minimal joint
complaints but is severely encephalopathic (see below), then think of Bartonella/BLO.
· Obvious signs of CNS irritability can include muscle twitches, tremors, insomnia, seizures, agitation,
anxiety, severe mood swings, outbursts and antisocial behavior.
· GI involvement may present as gastritis or abdominal pain (mesenteric adenitis).
· Sore soles, especially in the morning.
· Tender sub-cutaneous nodules along the extremities, especially outer thigh, shins, and occasionally
along the triceps.
· Occasional lymphadenopathy.
· Morning fevers, usually around 99. Occasionally light sweats are noted.
· Elevated vascular endothelial growth factor (VEGF) occurs in a minority, but the degree of elevation
correlates with activity of the infection and may be used to monitor treatment.
· Rapid response to treatment changes- often symptoms improve within days after antibiotics are begun,
but relapses occur also within days if medication is withdrawn early.
· May have papular or linear red rashes (like stretch marks that do not always follow skin planes),
especially in those with GI involvement.

Indicators of BLO infection include CNS symptoms out of proportion to the other systemic symptoms of chronic
Lyme. There seems to be an increased irritability to the CNS, with agitation, anxiety, insomnia, and even
seizures, in addition to other unusually strong symptoms of encephalitis, such as cognitive deficits and
confusion. Other key symptoms may include gastritis, lower abdominal pain (mesenteric adenitis), sore soles,
especially in the AM, tender subcutaneous nodules along the extremities, and red rashes. These rashes may
have the appearance of red streaks like stretch marks that do not follow skin planes, spider veins, or red
papular eruptions. Lymph nodes may be enlarged and the throat can be sore.

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Bite date ?
2/10 symptoms began
5/10 dx'd, after 3 months numerous test and doctors

IgM Igenex +/CDC +
+ 23/25, 30, 31, 34, 41, 83/93

Currently on:

Currently at around 80% +/- most days.

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Wow! This is really nice! Thanks for taking time to put it all together.

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oh my god, never in all my time have I seen such a comprehensive symptom list for Bartonella

I was always pretty much convinced that it is Borrelia I had but after seeing this I think Bart is a very real possibility [or a combination of both]

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Well I am so thankful for this list. I have had most of these symptoms along with the lyme. I have really been having trouble with a rash on my leg by bad veins. I have had treatment of 4 antibiotics that it has gotten better with then came back. I am no on augmentin and have been for 3 weeks. It is a rash that looks like poison ivy. Yesterday it started to itch again and back was the tiny blisters. I have lost 60lbs. deliberately for my leg and work out etc. I also was diagnosed about 12 yrs ago and have been off treatment for a few yrs. until last yr. What antibiotics do they give for this? I am at my wits end too. I have all the psychological symptoms just about and lots of the other. I have heart palpitations,dizzy spells oh lots of all this crap so I will not bore you all with it! Tremors etc.
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I have so much of this stuff. Including gastritis and a lytic lesion on my vertebrae.

I've even thought a couple of times that I don't have Lyme at all, just Bartonella.

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Thanks <<<<< bcb1200 >>>>>,

This is great information, I have a lot of the symptoms mentioned. I am glad you put this info' up !!

Jus' Silverwolfi

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[ Clinical Dx w/ two positives and several IND's on the tests from Igenex ], Prior Dx of CFIDS/CEBV 1992, and FMS '93-'94
Diabetes*2 Dx 10/'08

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Thanks. ..overlapping sx hmmm

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up

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Bite date ?
2/10 symptoms began
5/10 dx'd, after 3 months numerous test and doctors

IgM Igenex +/CDC +
+ 23/25, 30, 31, 34, 41, 83/93

Currently on:

Currently at around 80% +/- most days.

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Thanks! Amazing!

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