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smileynot
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I know this topic might be a bit unorthodox to post here, but this is truly legit and very private.

11 yrs ago I was bitten in my privates, most delicate place for a woman (vaginal lip) and I'm wondering if any women with lyme and severe nerve damage, if any have had this procedure done?

Considering where I was bit, and unknowingly at the time, I had steroid shots in my neck, which I thought was the issue.. and the third shot literally lit up my vaginal walls with volts of electricity and nerves freaking out, which really scared me. I don't know if anyone doctor wise is going to understand this fear, this issue or what it would do to have my vaginal wall to be lasered and what my nerves would do in that area of my uterus.

I feel like with all the ABX and homeopathic treatments I've had that my lyme is under control, but I've been told by pain doc, that he thinks I have permanent damage to my central nervous system, not sure how he knows, but I'd appreciate any woman who might have also been bitten in this area, please let me know. thanks

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Keebler
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Pondering: " what it would do to have my vaginal wall to be lasered and what my nerves would do in that area of my uterus" (end quote)

Lasers cut. Lasers burn. I don't know if there is a "low setting" that has a different kind of light, though. Please post a link to a good site that explains the procedure. For now, I'm assuming there is some degree of burning to it to slough off old tissue ? Is that the idea of "rejuvenation"?

But those with lyme have compromised body tissues all the way around. Keep that in mind.

I had cervical freezing done many years ago as a medical procedure. That was terrible and caused pain for years and years. As for laser?

Let's see, if it's to burn "old" tissue" - To burn already tender human genital tissue with a laser. What would that do? Well, it could cause so much damage and pain that might be ongoing forever and ever

- not just to the "whole vaginal wall" but also the labia that would have to be manipulated during the procedure. That could also be damage.

That's my basic take on it. There is no magic laser wand. Healing from within, addressing the exact things that are going on - that's the best path.

I've dealt with similar issues with severe vulvodynia. Attacking the tender, already damaged tissue is never the way to go. You might look to the vulvodynia patient education and advocacy organizations for suggestions on healing from within.

For any tick borne infection issues, your LLMD is the best source -- or ask them to recommend someone who might have more experience with uro-genital issues.

Please do not try to destroy by burning with a laser.

A different kind of light that might be of interest: SOTA Lightworks. Infrared light shone upon the tissue. No destroying it at all but using light to help heal / circulation as PART of the plan.
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Lion's Mane, a medicinal mushroom, has some good reports for nerve healing. I find it helps me in various ways. Paul Stamets is the expert to explore and see the research in his webite.

Chlorella and Spirulina can also help nerves in some ways, I tend to think in regards to my own body, too.

If you have irritation in the uro-genital area there are some creams / salves that are safer than others, of course. Consult the EWG Skin Deep website for quality of ingredients.

look up articles / find the book by ND gynecologist TORI HUDSON. She specializes in women's health.

My idea with a SOTO lightwork has not been explored due to cost. Still, it's sure something that I would explore were it possible.

Good luck.
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All I can say is OUCH!! I can't imagine.

Proceed with caution.

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I do not recall where I was reading it, though a reputable expert from likely recent years, I read just last week that

the mycoplasmas infections can be especially painful to uro-genital tissue.

I mentioned being sure to talk with LLMD but likely did not spell out, too, that various other chronic stealth infections besided lyme should be considered.

The entire herpes family, especially HHV-6 (there's an organization for patient support of HHV-6, just Google).

Chlamydia p., too, www.cpnhelp.com should be assessed.

Mycoplasmas - see the work of Garth Nicolson, PhD

There may be other infections to consider as well including various fungal ones.

and the mycoflora balance also being addressed might help. Tori Hudson, ND's book / website might open up detail about how to achieve that.
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Thank you all for posting.. i know it's a super weird, sensitive topic and so appreciative for all your insight.. great things to consider.

Just last month I talked to a mom, whose teen daughter ALSO got bit in same place, and the tick actually fell off a few days after she had felt something but thought it was a small mole, but when it fell off, it was still squirming.. I'm trying to desperately to talk to this mom about the realities of lyme, but hard time getting thru to her.

Unfortunately, this bite was 5 years ago, mom didn't have her tested til this month. I'm so afraid it's too late. Praying she will listen to me.

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smileynot

please don't think or feel this is "super weird" and while, yeah, it's a "sensitive" topic . . . if this were your nose or a index finger, would you feel so embarrassed? I think not.

I've come to consider that all our body parts are, well, just parts of our bodies - of anybody's body. We have to talk about anything that is causing us pain or distress.

You might look up: "Tori Hudson, ND" find her book and call her office in Portland, Oregon to see who near you she might just recommend -- or a particular book.

She is a gyn. specialist ND -- and she does know about lyme and how devastating it can be, she is not at all a LLMD. Still, start with her knowledge base and call her office to see if they might just recommend someone you could even talk to by phone.

And most LLMDs should really also know all about the uro-genital tissue issues of both women and men with lyme. "Should" is my operative word, of course.

A LL ND might have more options for treatments in this particular area as well.
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I would be very, very cautious about this. You don't want to create any further damage. Do you have nerve pain there? If so, I am sorry to hear it. Nerve pain there is horrific. I know, sadly.

Lasers don't only cut or burn, they can be used for healing without harm to the body, but it all depends on the kind of laser, how it's used, and the intention of the procedure.

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This is probably a long shot but I thought I'd mention it:

https://drlwilson.com/ARTICLES/COFFEE-VAGINAL.htm

Good luck.

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It's important to be very careful about applying anything to vulva tissue if there is any - any - irritation. Anything inserted into the vagina cannot avoid the vulva tissue as it sits, either.

It took me years to find a soothing ointment that did not make things worse. Some good detail below.

Whatever all else might be a cause, contributor(s) or irritant - be sure to go on a VERY LOW OXALATE diet as advised by - with their excellent research backing them up -

http://www.thevpfoundation.org/

The VP (Vulvar Pain) Foundation


http://www.thevpfoundation.org/vpfoxalate.htm

The Truth About Oxalate


[Also see various video presentations about oxalates by Sally K. Norton, MPH at YouTube and her own website - excellent interview with her at the RealFat YouTube channel.

Dr. William Shaw with Great Plains Labs also has an excellent presentation about oxalate damage at their site and a great interview at YouTube at the Liveto110 channel.

For instance, just six leaves of spinach exceeds the daily intake regarding the toxic load . . . and even a few almonds and especially almond milk or almond butter are off the charts high as are beets / beet greens / chard and so many more.

The oxalate crystal is sharp and toxic and it can collect anywhere in the body - anywhere, - including nerves, brain, lining of arteries -- just anywhere.)


http://www.thevpfoundation.org/vpfrecover.htm

Recoveries from VP
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