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carolync
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Trying to find a list of low oxolate foods but getting conflicting answers. One list says broccoli and cauliflower are low, another list says they're high. Is there a low-oxolate food list online we can trust for accurate info?

I thought maybe Sally Norton would have a list (oxolate expert) but can't find one on her site.

Thanks,
Carolyn

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The Vulvar Pain Foundation has the best lists. They have done tremendous research on this topic for years.

Note, though that oxalates can cause a wide range of troubles for both men and women, not just vulvar pain for some women - it's just that this group has taken it seriously.

http://www.thevpfoundation.org/

VP Foundation

http://www.thevpfoundation.org/vpfoxalate.htm

VP Foundation - START HERE, scroll down for basic list

The Truth About Oxalate - FAQ

By Michael Liebman, Ph.D.


http://www.thevpfoundation.org/effective_treatment.htm

Pain Project Treatment Steps

scroll down to the chart about low-oxalate diet with certain citrate supplements and others.

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Sadly, tea can be high in oxalates, too. Black tea is the highest, next oolong and while lower, even green tea might contain too much for those affected, though compared to some high oxalate plants, the numbers for tea are much lower. To consider:

I wrote yesterday.

UPDATE - This issue is not settled.

I do not have kidney stones, yet oxalates very likely contribute to other severe issues I deal with . . . so any articles that focus on kidney stones can have detail for other reasons, too.

Author below - I've read his works over time and consider him a reliable source.

https://jonbarron.org/article/green-tea-prevents-kidney-stones

Green Tea Prevents Kidney Stones

By Jon Barron - Nov. 29, 2015

According to traditional medical wisdom, if you want to avoid kidney problems, you'd better avoid tea.

Tea has high oxalate content, and since the most common type of kidney stone builds on oxalic acid, drinking tea is verboten for kidney stone patients.

But recent research suggests, though it seems counterintuitive,
that green tea actually helps minimize the risk of kidney stones. . . .


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30408844

Excerpt:

2018 - Conclusion: Green tea intake is associated with a lower risk of incident kidney stones, and the benefit is observed more strongly among men.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29518971

Dietary Plants for the Prevention and Management of Kidney Stones 2018

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Thanks for the links Keebler. It appears broccoli is a low oxolate food on the list. I'm viewing the list there but some veggies I'm curious about are missing....

Cauliflower, red cabbage and cucumbers. Any idea on those?

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Your best source of ACCURATE information is the Trying Low Oxalates Facebook group. They have done all the EXTENSIVE testing of hundreds of foods.

Susan Owens is the expert.

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Great, thank you Lymetoo, I will join the group.
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You won't be sorry .. just a heads up though. It can be complicated!

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Hey Keeb .. Have you run across this before?

https://www.webmd.com/kidney-stones/kidney-stones-food-causes#1

" Salt. If you eat a lot of sodium, which is an ingredient in salt, that raises the amount of calcium in your urine. Once you finish eating, any extra oxalate “sticks” to calcium in the kidneys. That can produce stones. So limit canned foods, packaged meats, fast foods, and condiments in your diet.

Animal protein. Limit beef, pork, eggs, cheese, and fish, because they may raise your chances of most types of kidney stones."

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