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Cmarie6422
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I was wondering if anyone owns a rife machine if so what kind? and are you seeing improvements? Do you feel its a good investment? Also does anyone add fasting in to there healing regime, how has that worked for you?
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I have a rife machine but I've not really started to use it. The fan is too loud for me, but my ears are very sensitive. It's an EMEM5 but, for most, the fan is just fine.

I do plan to get back to it soon - but I live in a very noisy environment and when it's noisy around me I cannot add one more sound stressor.

As for fasting. That all depends upon the kind are you talking about

If you are not "fat adapted" and on a ketogenic diet - where your carbohydrate, total grams of the day would be under 20 grams -

I would be very concerned using rife while fasting because

- if you get most of your fuel from carbohydrates, then low blood sugar / hypoglycemia could be problematic and that can very stressful to the body - I think - to be using rife at the same time blood glucose might be low.

You might still incorporate it into your routine, but just be very steady in your metabolic function during the time you use the rife machine.

I used to run into all kinds of trouble skipping a meal or having it be too late before I started a ketogenic diet. Now, most days I just eat between noon & 7 pm, approx. and it's pretty easy.

But I had to work slowly up to that. I was ketogenic for a few months and solid in that before I started what is known as "intermittent fasting" and narrowing the window of my meals.

Other kinds of fasting, though, you might want to get a home glucose meter so you can be certain you are not dropping in glucose levels. Hypoglycemia is very harsh - and cause damage, too - on the body and any kind of fasting that results in that, I would avoid.

I know this might be complicated yet I hope the detail helps.

If you are ketogenic or even higher carb intake and "low carb / high fat" -- or thinking about it -- see the YouTube presentations.

Search YouTube for: "their name" fasting

The first three also have books.

1. Dr. Jason Fung

2. Dr. Stephen Phinney

3. Dr. Eric Westman - Duke University ___ Clinic and 'HEAL Clinics"

4. Dr. Sarah Hallberg - Virta Health
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There are many good blood glucose meters on the market. However, most cost more than I could even consider. I found one that very affordable. You do not have to sign up for a plan but can just buy what you need if you like.

Call and talk with them if you wish, they are very helpful.

But, if you do any kind of fasting at all, please make this a priority. Actually, I think everyone / every family should have one so they can test and see what the food they consume does to their glucose levels. It really matters.

One other matter: you did not state what method you are considering but many do "juice fasting" and I think that is very dangerous.

It's not really fasting, though if there is food intake . . . but some might do this to try to give the gut a break from solid food. But "juice fasting" can actually damage the lining of the gut - big time - from the oxalate & lectin concentration.

I have a similar concern, not with a few nuts, but with nut milks (often high in lectins) or even protein drinks.

For instance, while whey protein does not generally raise blood glucose, it can cause insulin to spike 4 or 5 times what a bit of food might. And that is very harmful.

Some other proteins used in smoothies (that some use during some kinds of "fasts" also have things to consider.

I tend to think nutrition is best from real food that we chew - for best blood glucose stability.

Drinking any kind of juice - even if all green veggies - can pose risk for blood glucose spikes and drops - as well as sky high oxalate toxicity &/or lectin intake. But that's another matter.

For safety in fasting, the doctors in posts above are excellent.


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Cmarie,

Pardon my manners. I see now that this is your first post at LymeNet. Welcome! Though, of course, sorry for the situation that brings into this research mode.

Be sure to connect with the lyme support groups in MN.

And, if I recall correctly, there is either a LL ND (naturopathic doctor) or a LLMD who is rather holistic minded somewhere near the Twin Cities.

I do not know your reason for asking about "fasting" but - the safest way, IMO, is after being very low carb / ketogenic first for a while.

Dr. Eric Westman and his "HEAL" Clinic was just in the Twin Cities area with a one day conference so they have some folks there with whom you might connect as a sort of support group if you want to explore that.

You might ask the LL doctor (I hope you have one) what they hear about rife from other patients.

Though, if an MD, they may not be able to bring it up, you can certainly start the conversation and find out if others are using one, etc.

I have found being on a ketogenic plan for 14 months to have many benefits for symptoms that overlap between lyme, tick-borne disease and insulin resistance (in my case, pre-diabetes).

My body comfort level is much better and I'm more awake, sleep better (though it could be longer).

I mention this LCHF (low carb / high fat) or the lower carb ketogenic avenues only because you asked about fasting and I think if you are drawn to that, it's best when "fat adapted".

I hope you find all you need to get settled on the next plan(s) of action.

Take care.
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Welcome to the forum. Good to see another Minnesotan here.

I own three of machines. Two GB-4000 and MOPA's and an older EMEM no longer made.

I use them to treat my wife who has Lyme and had Bartonella and Babesia in the past.

Since she was not able to tolerate oral treatment well, it was her main treatment. She still has a remnant of Lyme but it I not aggressive like before. She doe not need to treat often. A few days every few months and she is fine.

I also use it as my main Crohn's disease treatment. I am going on seven years without any problems as a result of the treatments.

It isn't a miracle cure, but it certainly can turn your life around with some diligence.

Dan

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Welcome to Lymenet!

Here are MN Lyme Support Groups for you to contact:

Online state Lyme groups:
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MinnesotaLyme/info

Some more resources for you:
http://whatislyme.com/lyme-in-minnesota/

http://mnlyme.com

http://www.lymenet.org/SupportGroups/UnitedStates/Minnesota/

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I have the EMEM5A .. works well and it's affordable.

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bluelyme
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see the ted talks https://youtu.be/1w0_kazbb_U
video evidence shattering larger organisms.
i used a spooky plasma and swiss contact on a s.african protocol of 2-3 of my 9 pathogens per day ,rifing about 1.5-2 hrs for 9month to a year . in conjunction with herbal support it can be enough for some replication rates . high copper loads maybe a barrier for some .

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