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MissVictoria
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For those of you who use Stevia drops, did it cause you to gain weight?

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It may have. But I'm more worried about the effect on the brain and on the pancreas. I have some research on this but I can't figure out how I filed it. I will try to find that in the next day or two but I just suggest not ingesting it.

If you are considering it "as a supplement" (? - I read in your earlier post but don't see that here now)

for its hope that it can address borella biofilm (Eva Sapi's work), there are many other agents / herbals that can do that instead and are not so super sweet.. Stephen H. Buhner's books / articles delve into the various other options for addressing biofilm

If "as a supplement" you just meant in your food or tea, etc. than, still, it's really best to cut it out, in my opinion after years on the liquid stevia drops in my tea, all day long. I'm better without it.

I think stevia could be / might be dangerous for various metabolic reasons that we can't quite yet identify, as can anything sweet that tries to fool our body. It's not really so natural, really. It's highly concentrated and processed.

I stopped it cold turkey 15 months ago when I dropped all sweet tastes and embarked on a ketogenic path. It took me a while to get used to tea without sweet taste but it was worth it.

To me, it really felt like I was addicted to it. And the research I read resonates with my suspition (sp?)

How it might cause weight gain is not by raising blood glucose (which it does not do) but by fooling / yet still triggering the pancreas (like with a sweet) to shoot out insulin and excess insulin causes fat to be stored in the body.

Excess insulin also can destroy tissue in the body, as can excess glucose. Best to keep both within a controlled range.
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I found some of my research notes. Indeed, stevia has been found to artificially push the pancreas to secret and put out into the body more insulin. And that is a very bad thing, actually, in the context in which it does this.

And, yes, this can lead to weight gain - and also other ill effects.

I say "artificially" push because stevia is lots sweeter than any real food in the manner in which a real food would be consumed. Especially without a meal of foods that would normally cause a rise in insulin, stevia outside of meal times would be especially troublesome to insulin surge.

However, I don't know if because it's super processed and concentrated that, even with a reasonable meal, the rise in insulin would then be to the moon as it might without other foods.

It's an important question and I would think it could because of the concentration. Nothing really hides or gets by on some pass.

There are still more notes I need to find and then I will edit and make a links set as I've been meaning to do for a while.

But that's for another day.
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Thank you

Would those negative effects happen with stevia in any form? I'm talking about stevia drops that are taken as a supplement to treat biofilms. The brand I use is NutraMedix

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Drops would be highly processed and concentrated, no matter the reason one might be ingesting it. But, it also depends on what else might be in the liquid, if it's diluted, etc.

Can you post a link to the actual product / ingredient list?

The green powder, just crushed stevia leaves, might be less impact but one has to ask: how many leaves were crushed to make the dose? What else might be in with that? Etc.

And the sweetness is still just too the moon so that insulin might still be too spiked (and then that can later cause a hypoglycemic drop to the floor)..

I tried that green powder, said not to be so processed but it really tastes like a super sweet-ish animal lot (to my tastebuds).

I think anything that spikes insulin poses such a risk as to avoid. There are always other options.

The work of Stephen H. Buhner (books, article, blog, website) explore many options of herbals that can help combat the biofilm issue without that to the moon level of sweetness.
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Interesting, thank you

This is the product and there is a product label that can be clicked on:

https://www.nutramedix.com/shop/liquid-products/stevia-sweet-herb-on

The ingredients are:
Stevia leaf extract
Mineral Water
Ethanol (20-24%)

I was instructed to start with 1 drop twice a day and gradually increase to 30 drops twice a day

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So three drops is 0.15 ml of stevia extract & x 10 for the 30 drops full dose = 1.5 ml -- that's still a small amount yet it's very concentrated and still going to affect the brain and pancreas, if I read the papers I'm studying correctly.

It's been way to hot and humid and my putt-putt AC is not creating an environment that allows me the energy or focus to pull out experts and links from my study notes. I do hope to put a links set together soon but my body has other ideas for now.

Nothing is going to change how off the charts sweet your brain and pancreas will detect this, though, and that is my concern. You might ask your LLMD about this, if you have one, of course. They would be able to shine much more light on the mechanisms.

For now, you can search further if you want to find all the articles I found. for a start Google: stevia, insulin

and then cross search with other terms of interest.

And, of course, check out what Buhner might say about this.
I know that sometime in the past year or so I posted some links, you might search "stevia" in the Medical and General forums.

There might be more in a "Sweeteners" thread, too, buy my memory is a little fuzzy on where some of other other stevia links I've posted are. I did not keep track of that. And I'm just too tired and vision too fuzzy to xearch.
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Thank you [Smile]
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