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Youtube keeps removing the video, on and on again.

In case this happens, if you find any new links, please post here under. Thank you.

Watch this fast (only 25 min).

It's got the WHOLE truth about Covid19 and MUCH MORE!!

I watched this, and can't keep my tears.

It's the most complete video about the Covid19, useful treatments and what's BEHIND this 'pandemics'.

It's an interview with the brilliant Judy Mikovitz, a researcher admired by dr. Mercola and Dr Klinghardt, whose life has been shattered by the same people who are destroying our health system, such as Fauci, Bill Gates, the CDC, FDA, the AMA and others.

She speaks about the Covid19 basically, the treatments that work but have been kept away from us ON PURPOSE, the planned deaths, doctors are being paid to diagnose patients with Covid19, to put them WRONGLY into ventilators...

Judy worked with the highly respectable nobel winner Prof Luc Montagnier during the discovery of the HIV virus as the cause of AIDS, decades ago.

Montagnier has the same opinion as Judy M., concerning the Covid19.

Not only this virus has been manipulated but many others before this one.

I trust Judy, I have been following her for a while, after the retrovirus contamination in vaccines story.

It's hard not to cry listening to this interview.

This is the new link, as the other old link (from yesterday) has been already removed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOFDi-MlUp0

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It's still there! Yep, she's the one to watch, along with Robert Kennedy Jr - great site at childrenshealthdefense.org

Btw, whenever youtube takes down a covid video, others put it right back up! Yay, internet warriors!

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It is up at Brighteon now. We'll see whether they are also censoring or influencing them.

https://www.brighteon.com/91f524b4-656f-4c46-bab5-01dea4ac1cf1

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Thank you all!! Yes, nice people are still re-posting this.

It's the best info on the Covid19, I mean, the most complete. It all makes so much sense now.

Pity she doesn't explain why the ventilator is a bad therapy.. Anyone knows?

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Wow!!!

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There is a reason the video is being taken down. Please consider the following before you believe the video.

POLITIFACT: Fact-checking ‘Plandemic’: A documentary full of false conspiracy theories about the coronavirus

https://www.politifact.com/article/2020/may/08/fact-checking-plandemic-documentary-full-false-con/


This was posted by an MD and went viral. She is legit. I broke it up for easier reading.

Kat Montgomery
May 6 at 2:17 PM

**EDITED TO ADD: I wrote this post to help my friends sort through misinformation and did not expect it to go viral. Several commenters have asked me to cite sources, and I agree that this is important to do. I still have a day job, but I have edited to include primary sources for all points when possible **

*The following statements represent my personal informed views and not those of any institution*

First, background: I’m a physician (specifically a board-certified pathologist, which includes microbiology and laboratory medicine) with a master’s degree in epidemiology.

In the last day or two, several friends have shared or posted about a video “documentary” called “Plandemic”. The film depicts now-discredited former researcher Judy Mikovits who shares a plausible-sounding narrative about the current pandemic.

The problem here is that nearly all of her scientific statements are demonstrably false. If you have more to add to this list, or credible data to the contrary, please start a discussion.

I suspect there are many more false claims in this video, but these are just the ones that stuck out to me as a physician with epidemiology training.

- She states “There is no vaccine for any RNA virus that works." Incorrect: Polio, hepatitis A, measles, to name a few. (Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4763971/)

- Her retracted paper was actually not about vaccines at all, even though she insinuates that it was. (Here is the article: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19815723)

- She states that Ebola could not infect humans until it was engineered to do so in her laboratory. This is false. (Here is an article describing an outbreak of Ebola in 1976, long before Dr. Mikovits was conducting research: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27357339)

- Likewise, many other zoonotic viruses have been shown to gain mutations that allow them to infect humans. This would not be some kind of new, crazy idea. We actually predicted it years ago: we just didn’t know exactly which virus or when it would occur. (Here is an article from 2015 discussing the likely emergence of future coronavirus pandemics: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4687304/ )

- She states that the US was working with Wuhan to study coronaviruses years ago, like it’s a “gotcha” moment: yes, of course we were doing this

– Wuhan is a coronavirus hotspot and it makes sense to study this family of viruses where it naturally occurs. (Same article as above: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4687304/ )
- She states that COPD lungs are identical to COVID-19 lungs. As a pathologist, this is ludicrous – any practicing physician would be able to tell COPD from COVID-19, both clinically and histologically. (One article discussing an overview of tools for diagnosing COVID19 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7144809/, one about CT specifically https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7191895/, and one about histology specifically https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7184436/ )

- The statement taken out of context from the CDC death certificate recommendation reads in full “In cases where a definitive diagnosis of COVID-19 cannot be made, but is suspected or likely (the circumstances are compelling within a reasonable degree of certainty), it is acceptable to report COVID-19 on a death certificate as “probable” or “presumed”. In these instances, certifiers should use their best judgment in determining if a COVID-19 diagnosis was likely. Testing for COVID-19 should be conducted whenever possible.”. My physician colleagues are not being pressured to put COVID-19 on death certificates when it should not be there. (Here is the actual document with instructions for
filling out death certificates from the CDC: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/vsrg/vsrg03-508.pdf )

- The idea that physicians are incorrectly diagnosing COVID-19 due to financial incentive is also ridiculous. Medicare sometimes bundles payments for some conditions (i.e. if you have a heart attack, medicare may pay XX for your treatment) – it’s possible the hospital could get paid $13,000 for your COVID-19 admission, but do you know what that’s based on? The fact that the average cost of a hospital admission for a respiratory condition is $13,297. (I can’t post a scientific study here, since this isn’t a scientific fact, but this article describes the procedure in detail: https://www.usatoday.com/…/fact-check-medicare-…/3000638001/ )
- She states that hydroxychloroquine has been “extensively studied in this family of viruses” – in fact, it has not been studied well in coronaviruses. It HAS been studied in malaria, which is not a virus. (Here is the one study that was performed that people like to cite, and it is an in vitro study (not in humans), of SARS (not COVID-19), and chloroquine (not hydroxychloroquine): https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1232869/ ). And yes, it is considered an essential medicine for the treatment of malaria. Not for coronaviruses.

- Furthermore, the data on hydroxychloroquine are much weaker than they originally appeared: the small study that was highly publicized was not a randomized controlled trial, and the only patients who died were those who received hydroxychloroquine (and these were EXCLUDED FROM ANALYSIS!). This is terrible science. Even so, we want to investigate all possible treatments, so controlled trials are being conducted on hydroxychloroquine right now. (A summary of the current evidence we have from published and ongoing trials: https://www.cebm.net/…/hydroxychloroquine-for-covid-19-wha…/)
- She insinuates that there is a hydroxychloroquine shortage as a result of reduced production. In fact, the shortage has resulted from an increase in demand: people who take this medication regularly are writing extended prescriptions and because physicians are using it for COVID19 patients because they have nothing else to try. (https://jamanetwork.com/c…/health-forum/fullarticle/2764607…).

- “All flu vaccines contain coronaviruses”. Nope, absolutely false. (In fact, it’s so false based on the way vaccines are made that there are no studies specifically stating this claim. It would be like trying to conduct a study to examine whether humans can live with zero oxygen. Nope, we can’t. No study needed.)

- The ideas that sheltering in place somehow harms your immune system or that you may reactivate a virus in yourself by wearing a mask have been thoroughly debunked in other posts and I won’t get into the details here. Both national societies of emergency medicine have condemned the statements of these doctors, one of whom is not board-certified. (Please refer to Dr. Kasten’s post and others about these)

- Lastly, private companies removing false information from their platforms does not represent repression or promotion of propaganda. It’s helping to promote the spread of sound scientific information. If you think lies should be permitted to circulate freely alongside the truth with the intention of reaching people who won’t be able to tell the difference, you are part of the problem.

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I have to disagree with a lot of Judy’s Pandemic video.

TerryK-Thanks for your post!

There would be no way that our government would want so many people to be sick and have our economy decline so badly. We may not know exactly how it got started, yet.

It is not true that all of that money went to the lab in Wuhan. The money was a grant that went to an organization and the organization doled out $600,000 to Wuhan.

Of course coronaviruses are going to be studied. One coronavirus or several types of coronavirus cause the common cold. One type caused SARS.

I am not a huge fan of vaccines. But I do not believe that this virus was manipulated and let loose so that the vaccine could be made against it. Don’t believe everything you read or hear on the Internet.

https://apple.news/Aepe7UCIJSbCdRPCr72wMmA This provides a different perspective on this scientist.

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I'd rather make up my own mind about the truth of this video than rely upon youtube to make that decision for me by excising it. They have been doing a lot of censorship lately and that in itself makes me wonder about their motivations.

Looks like Gates funds NPRs global health coverage. Could there be a conflict of interest in regards possible bias in their coverage?

After the governmental bumbling of lyme, I would not trust their opinions on much else, especially something related to a degree.

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https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/who-is-judy-mikovits-in-plandemic-the-coronavirus-conspiracy-video-just-banned-from-social-media/

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Well, I may not be Bill Gates and have his kind of money but I do donate to our local NPR radio. I don’t think that makes me a conspiracist.

I certainly agree that the government has not handled Lyme disease properly. But I don’t think they’ve handled a lot of issues properly— health and otherwise.

Despite that my logic and research about Judy Mikovitz tells me she is a “lulu.”

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I have to disagree about hydroxychloroquine.

There is a clear CAMPAIGN against choroquine/ plaquenil, because it IS working!

Just check for yourself.

Why has it SUDDENLY become a POISONOUS substance in France (since Jan 2020) after being an essential medicine for 70, 80 years?

The French government made a decree in Jan 2020, after the first publication of a paper from China, saying it was working for Covid patients.

The FDA and the AMA FORBADE the use of chloroquine for the Covid19, one of the SAFEST medicines that ever existed on this planet (just check LD50 for chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine, it's MUCH SAFER than ASPIRIN).

https://www.ama-assn.org/system/files/2020-04/board-of-pharmacy-covid-19-prescribing.pdf

"Hydroxychloroquine or Chloroquine for COVID
FDA Cautions Against Use Outside of the Hospital Setting or a Clinical Trial Due to Risk of Heart Rhythm Problems (April 24, 2020)"

Why dr Didier Raoult, physician and microbiologist of international reputation, has been using chloroquine since the beginning?

And thousands have taken it for the Covid19 in Marseille. He published a study involving more than 1,000 patients from the Covid19.

Death rates were only 0.5%, compared to 6% (Switzerland), 15% Belgium etc!!

Yes, this is not a double blind placebo study, but who cares? He asked that: are you waiting for people to die??

In France, they promised a double blind placebo study with chloroquine since the beginning, 2 months ago, and until now, nothing came out.

How come in this hospital thousands of patients are treated and get death rates of 0.5% while the rest of the world is calling this flu a 'pandemic'??

0.5% death rate makes this flu far from being a pandemic. If patients were treated, they wouldn't die as much as they are.

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Dr. Klinghardt is preaching for chloroquine too, for the Covid19. He said it's working for his patients.

Just look at Israel with death rates of 1.5% (they imported millions of chloroquine pills from India), India's death rate, despite extreme poverty, overpopulation, etc is only 3.3% (they produce and export chloroquine).

Look into Africa: they won't die as much as in the 'developed' countries because they ARE using chloroquine.

The USA is now on 6% death rate, and you guys are just starting, curves are going upwards, compared to Israel, for example, that are already at the end of the first wave.

Concerning vaccine contamination with retroviruses and other viruses, this is Judy's scientific domain. For that reason she had been put in prison.

Dr Mercola and Dr Klingahrdt are big fans of Judy Mikovitz.

Also Dr Luc Montagnier is of the same view of Judy: this virus has been manipulated in a lab, he said, and probably were experiments used in creation of vaccines against HIV and malaria.

No wonder remedies against malaria and retroviruses seem to work with the Covid19.

Dr Luc Montagnier won the Nobel prize for his research on HIV: because of HIM, we know that AIDS is caused by HIV.

Judy worked with Prof Montagnier 35 years ago.

These are old generation researchers, with long careers and reputation.

Dr Didier Raoult, who is a specialist of Rickettsias, said the chances to have a good vaccine against the Covid19 are next to zero.

Everything he says seems to match what Judy says.

Dr. Raoult said that if governments wanted people to be treated, they would try treatments with safe drugs (such as chloroquine).

But many governments don't want that. Western Europe and the US don't seem to want to treat their citizens.

Why is that so?!? There must be a reason for such a violent reaction against treatments.

Instead, they offer nothing: wait and let people die.

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And yes, governments are putting millions from tax payers for the creation of a possible Covid19 vaccine!!

If the vaccine works, private companies will file a patent for that, and still earn billions by selling these all over the world.^

Yes, tax payers' money finance their research, and they put a patent on it, to profit from its sales.

If they fail, and can't make a vaccine: no problem. They were paid millions anyway.

It's a WIN WIN situation for them.
With tax payers money!!!

SARS, MERS, these are Corona viruses.
ARe there any vaccines for them ? No.

How many years have passed since SARS and MERS and still, there are no vaccines, right?

Same as AIDS: vaccines?
How much money has gone already into an AIDS vaccine?!?

Yes, your tax money!!!

But no worry: there will be one vaccine soon for the Covid19. It will take just a few months to develop a highly safe vaccine for you all!!

And it will be a high tech one: Bill Gates will try to make one with digital ID, meaning, he'll make sure you get a microchip he calls 'quantum tatoo', so that you don't even need to carry a vaccine booklet: they can scan you and check if you got the 'right' vaccines!!

isn't that great?!?
https://21stcenturywire.com/2019/12/23/bill-gates-develops-new-id-tattoo-to-check-for-vaccinations/

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There is a huge difference in influence between contributing a few bucks and funding with billions.

I remember all those young girls getting an STD vaccine that increased their likelihood of developing cancer. There were adverse reactions to a chickenpox vaccine. Plenty more examples including Lymerix. People would show up saying that only way they could have acquired lyme was by that vaccine. It was withdrawn from the market.

The increasing censorship is very concerning. I want to know possible issues, whether popular or not. And I do not like that kind of power in the hands of the wealthy elite.

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You won't find any good news in Google anymore.

They are taking off all scientific papers that are going against anything that Google does not approve.

Same as this video from Mikovits above.

If the video was spreading 'fake information',why does Google /Youtube has to silence it, every day many post the same video again and again, and Google put it down.

If you don't want to have DIFFERENT views, different opinions, you don't want democracy.

You want totalitarian media, with only ONE SINGLE view.

Dr Mercola and Dr. Klinghardt are great fans of Judy Mikovitz, and so is Prof Luc Montagnier.

Without Montagnier, people with AIDS wouldn't know they were dying from HIV. We owe him a lot.

Another big researcher, specialist of Rikkettsias, called Dr. Raoult in France, is also saying the same: governments do not want a solution with easy treatments for the Covid19.

Dr Raoult is treating everyone with 2 basic and cheap medicines (plaquenil and azythronmycin) and said: 'it's absurd to confine the whole population and AVOID TREATING the sick ones.'

He even received a death threat. The police took his mobile phone and investigated where the threats were coming from: from a governmental medical doctor from another city!!!

This looks VERY MUCH like lyme treatment, right?

I wonder how you people with lyme, that suffered so long fighting to get a recognition (like AIDS patients did in the past, with drs such as Montagnier screaming they need help, antivirals and so on), how can't you SEE the absurdity that's happening under our eyes, in this Covid19?

Do you guys REALLY THINK they want to treat Covid19 patients with the right treatments?!?

Even zinc or high dose vitamin C would help, right? So says Dr. Klinghardt.

they will never give patients zinc, or vit C, or Vit D3, or chloroquine. Too cheap and they may work.

No, they want fear, confinement, and vaccines.
Imaginary vaccines!! They haven't found one for MERS nor SARS, but well, they are thinking to find one for this Covid19.

With tax payers' money, of course.

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https://www.politico.eu/article/bill-gates-who-most-powerful-doctor/
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quote:
Originally posted by Brussels:


I wonder how you people with lyme, that suffered so long fighting to get a recognition (like AIDS patients did in the past, with drs such as Montagnier screaming they need help, antivirals and so on), how can't you SEE the absurdity that's happening under our eyes, in this Covid19?


I've been pondering how this is such a flip side counter to the reality of what lyme is like. It's an insulting taunt being rubbed in our faces while lyme continues on, insidious and real...

being unrecognized and minimized as lesser or nothing as those in the community continue their struggles and try to make voices heard.

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https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/05/study-finds-no-hydroxychloroquine-effect-death-severe-covid-19

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It took me only a couple of minutes to locate studies with different conclusions but involving zinc. My understanding was that the Covid treatment was to include hydroxycholorquine, zinc sulfate, and azithromycin and that all were needed for treatment to be effective.

Here are a couple of links:
https://news.yahoo.com/zinc-hydroxychloroquine-found-effective-covid-19-patients-study-215732283.html

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.02.20080036v1

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gz, sorry if I insulted you.
It was not my intention.

I was just thinking outloud, how can lyme sufferers still believe in governmental policies and treatments for the Covid19, while EXACTLY they left us all suffering, avoiding the truth, treatments, offering lyme vaccines that infected more.

It's amazing to see the parallel to Covid19 treatments - or LACK of treatments. They let people die.

And they'll come with the magic solution: a vaccine, that will be at a certain time, mandatory, I'm afraid.

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Hiker, yes the study found no benefits to chloroquine.

Dr Raoult analyzed the study:
- they also used azythromycin in the CONTROL group (azythromycin is the treatment that helps chloroquine to act) without chloroquine

- they used chloroquine at THE END STAGE of disease, at the cytokine storm phase, where chloroquine should NOT be used.

he said: it's a fake study.

The same way antibiotics proved bad to chronic lyme since start, Vit C, zinc, chloroquine, any treatment will be proven wrong to Covid19.

2 alternatives will prove good, we'll see that in the near future: Vaccine and Remdesvir.

Guess who's behind the development of these drugs?

There will be studies done to invalidate anything that is too cheap, too easy, that helps. They want the billions of dollars coming from new drugs or new vaccines, right?

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Brussels, I perceived no insult at all, more like I am in agreement with you [Smile] The "absurdity" I refer to is what I feel when I compare lyme and covid19 "politically," from my perspective in the US.

So much money, time, energy, and support put into covid19, but chronic lyme doesn't exist.

Propaganda for covid has convinced the public there is a contagion that is potentially deadly. Propaganda for lyme has convinced the public that chronic lyme sufferers are delusional.

There's a mandate for insurance companies to cover testing for covid, while many get denied a Western Blot to check for lyme bands due to a "negative" ELISA.

Just a few thoughts, could probably make an interesting comparison chart for the two.

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