glm1111
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First of all, let me say that I have Absolutely no connection to Humaworm.
In fact this is the first time I am trying the 30 day antiparasitics. I am already impressed with the way these herbs are clearing up my neuro symptoms.
I was just navigating the site and found they have herbs for Lyme & Syphillis!! Also they have herbs for the liver, kidney, lungs etc and antivirals as well.
and go to the left hand side and click on OUR OTHER CLEANSERS. It has excellent info about all of the herbs. I know AliP on lymenet used to say "I worship humaworm" I plan on contacting her to see how she is doing and if the humaworm continued to help her.
Well, I am always searching and looking for ways to get rid of this Lyme Complex, which I commonaly refer to as " THE BEAST"...Hope this info helps,
Gael
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Thanks Gael... I saw this. I never really looked at the Humaworm site because I didn't think I had parasites! They were someone else's issue - LOL.
They do have a huge amount of info there. I don't sell this product or get money from them, either.
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Thanks so much, Gael. They have good ingredients.
They say: " . . .Our Lyme's & Syphillis Formula can be taken for 2 weeks on and 4 weeks off as needed for infection. . . ." end quote.
I have some concern with that as, form all I've read that may not be adequately addressing the infection and the life-cycle of the spirochete. Some researchers say it takes a minimum of 30 weeks to treat considering the life-cycle of the spirochete.
Perhaps they mean as a support measure or in rotation with other anti-spirochetal methods - or lightening the overall load of other things that humanworm addresses.
I do find it very interesting how the U.S. medical system totally ignored something that happens all over the world. Of course we, as humans, need to address all sorts of parasites.
I can't recall the name of it but I read in one of Jane Goodall's books that even the apes know how to take preventative measures and what to do, too, in acute situations.
They know just which bushes or trees to eat. It was fascinating to read that.
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Yeah, Sparkle, I used to think that ..... till I saw about 30 8-12 in roundworms and a 7 ft long tapeworm.
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Keebler,
I understand your concern, but I think with all of the other herbs that target the liver, lung and kidneys and antivirals it sounds like an excellent program. I noticed that some of these other herbal cleanses have some of the same ingredients as is in the Lyme formula.
Also, I just feel getting rid of the parasites is imperative to healing this disease. They suggest taking the humaworm first. It is all mapped out. I understand from reading other posts that since they customize all the herbs they will make you anything you want.
I am also still doing the salt/c. I decided to add the humaworm because I have bells Palsy of the gut and my peristalsis was slow in moving things out. The humaworm seems to be helping with that.
I wonder if the herbs help heal the nerve damage? Have to research that. Just want to see everyone get well, and we sure do need a lot of different ammunition.
Gael
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Six, did you see those with humaworm? Or were you taking something else. I am concerned about taking this with abx..........is there a problem doing this?
I also saw someone post (when i searched) that you can order it withOUT a couple of ingredients that are said to be stimulating.......anyone know anything about this?
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Thanks Gael!
My husband did the regular Humaworm last year (I was breastfeeding our daughter at the time so I couldn't). He didn't 'see' anything, but had some weird stomach things happen. He was also oil pulling at the time, but his epiglotis became inflamed. I'd like to try humaworm, but am worried because his epiglotis bothered him for probably 1-2 months afterward. ever hear of that happening due to herbs? It could have been the oil pulling, but I was also doing OP and it didn't bother my epiglotis at all.
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I took humaworm with ABX with no problems - and with my LLMD's consent.
If you know you can't tolerate an ingredient you can ask him to make it without - he's very good about that.
I think humaworm works great for parasites but I don't really think much about the Lyme or other remedies.
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I took it the first two times with abx. I saw the tapeworm during the Humaworm. Enula seems to be the best thing for me for the roundworms.
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Hi Ocean,
I have never had a reaction like your husband did to any herbs and I have been on very high doses of strong Chinese and South American herbs. My first inclination would be that the oil pulling was drawing something out or it just irritated it for some reason.
Maybe there was some additive that he was sensitive to. I have had great success with herbs. That is my guess, maybe someone else may know.
Six,
could you tell me what herbs are in the Enula? I tried to look it up, but couldn't find the ingredients. Also, how long have you been treating for the roundworms?
I am not sure what is still in my G.I.track, but I still feel movement. I have gotten rid of a lot already,
Thanks,
Gael
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I've taken it off and on since it first came out a year or two ago. If you feel movement, it's likely to be worms. I stopped feeling the movement when I got rid of the tapeworms .... I had three or four of them, but only one was massive.
I also find that as I get more balanced, I'll pass worms. When I started the KPU protocol, I passed a few. With the Humaworm this time, none. I know it's getting other parasites as I was feeling bad the first week on it, now feeling fine.
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Thanks Six,
What is the KPU protocol? I passed a large amount of worms that were 18-20" long (ascaris) I also passed some very long white looking worms along with every worm pictured in the lymephotos site.(a couple of yrs ago)
I can't believe I am still trying to get rid of them. How can you tell it's a tape worm and not ascaris? I feel like I swallowed a huge swamp. What on earth has attacked us?
I have to say I am much, much better,but i guess it's not a mystery given the fact that they lay 200,000 eggs a day.
Thanks,
Gael
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http://www.klinghardtneurobiology.com/KPUprotocol.pdf is about the KPU protocol BUT I think you have to understand it and work with a doctor as it really stirs the pot with regards to metals, toxins, infections, etc. It is far from easy and a roller-coaster ride for many of us. Plus if someone truly doesn't have the condition, it would not be wise to just start these things.
I ordered the Humaworm Lyme product but have not taken it yet. I am on the Humaworm product and HumaCleanse product now. It worried me a bit that they call it "Lymes". I told them that isn't how you make people think that you know much about "Lyme" disease.
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"Inhaled L-ASA attenuates histamine-induced bronchoconstriction in asthma."
A lysine deficiency is KNOWN to cause decreased immunity and decreased antibody formation.
Before any of you start "popping" lysine supplements, beware that it is supposed to be in balance with alanine.
If you are too high in alanine, you will make a lot of NO (nitric oxide) and you might be able to "hear" it.
Can you crack your joints loudly and often?
The sound you hear is NO...nitric oxide, a gas.
My kids, who I think have a gene that skews them to hold onto too much arginine, can really make very loud noises by "cracking their joints".
Son...feet. Daughter...neck.
I can't...a little, sometimes, but not like my kids.
Google: worms garlic
KryptoPyrrolUria = KPU
"One genetic based cause of zinc deficiency is called Micropyrroluria or Kryptopyrroluria that results in chronic widespread zinc and B6 deficiency throughout the body and brain. The medical fraternity largely ignored it until very recently, even though this was first described 50 years ago by Dr. Carl C. Pfeiffer,."
Zinc deficiency? Well, DUH...! Of course...doesn't take a rocket scientist...
Bb has "zinc fingers"!
B6 deficiency? Linked to lysine deficiency.
Too much zinc is very toxic (to the brain esp.).
When Bb IS destroyed, it the release of zinc the "toxic" factor?
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glm1111
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Thanks for the link Scott, I remember reading about it now from another post.
I noticed also that the people at humaworm referred to it as "Lymes". However given that the entire website is well done and informative,
I didn't think it was that big a deal, although a correction would be nice.
I hope the humaworm works well for you. Let us know. It is helping me a lot with my neuro symptoms.
Marnie,
Thanks for the worm/cancer link. Hulda Clark is big on the parasite/worm connection and cancer. I think she is right on the money. There is no doubt in my mind, that it plays a major role in Lyme disease also
Gael
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Thanks Life, I am just about to sit down to dinner, I think I'll save this for....uh way after my desert But, thanks for posting...
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Ewwwwwwwwww!!!! That may possibly be one of the most repulsive things I've ever seen. The ick factor is just increased when you think of actual worms inside of your head! I mean in your gut is bad enough, but your brain!!???
I'm secretly hoping the picture was doctored even though it claims authenticity!
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Ocean,
I just looked at it also. That is REALLY gross. I don't think they are doctored or photo shopped.
I do think it is very possible and even probable that the worms migrate into the brain. I remember GiGi used to post about this.
I think it will probably come up doing a search on here for GiGi. That's why it is so important to go after the worms and parasites that are sitting in the gut.
Gael
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Hi Gael,
Yes, I am sure they are real too, just hoping they weren't....
I've heard before about worms in the brain, I was hoping it is more rare than those in the 'torso area'. Do you know if it is???
I've been trying for the past 2 days to get on the humaworm site and it won't load for me. I want to order some for us. Anyone else having trouble?
I showed my husband the pic and he thought it was pretty gross too. He kept saying, "Why didn't he go to the doctor when he noticed the tumor!!" Probably the same reason you hear about the people who end up with a 100 lb plus tumor...fear!
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Hi Ocean,
I haven't had any trouble with the link. Try this www.humaworm.com
As far as the worms go they migrate to the head from the small intestine.
People here have complained of crawling feelings in their head. I have/had them and they are drying up.
Just stay focused on going after them in the small intestine and they will stop migrating. You'll be alright, it will just take time,
Gael
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ok, where is the link you're all talking about worm in brain?
awhile back i posted about national news having something about someone being operated on for brain tumor i believe, and out pops a long worm! i remember gael replying to it...
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Betty,
go to u tube and type worm brain into search bar and it should come up...It's really something...and the surgeon that operated said that he is seeing more of them..
.Gael
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Hi Betty,
The picture was really rough to see. I didn't want anyone to upset by it.
It's was seeing pictures like that, that called my attention though to deal with parasites.
I have only been treating them a bit over 2 months, I made some progress with the Humaworm.
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Tolife,
Sorry, I didn't take offense to it, it was just not what I was expecting to see. I didn't mean for you to take it off because of what I wrote, I'm glad I saw it. I saw something really gross in nursing school pertaining to really bad (like to the bone) bedsores, where I was literally thinking, "is this real? Am I really cleaning these?" Course I had horrid anxiety then anyhow all the time, not knowing it was from the Lyme!
There are lots of gross, almost unimaginable things in life, and I'm sorry if you took the post off because of me =)
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Okay, I was confusing something else with the pics you posted To Life. There is something on u tube which was on the news a while back.
So Ocean,
Did you start the humaworm yet? If so how is it going? To Life, how is it working for you so far? Have you seen any parasites yet?>
Gael
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Gael,
Haven't started yet as I just ordered it on Wednesday evening.
I'm nervous about the wormwood, online it said it can cause mental issues, I just don't want anything to make my anxiety out of control again.
Think I should have asked them to make mine without wormwood in it??
How can you tell it's a tape worm and not ascaris?
When I went to curezone and looked at the photos, I wished I had fished out that tapeworm. It was about a half inch wide and flat. It was broken into pieces about 6-10 in long. If put together, the pieces I saw would have made a worm a minimum of 7 ft. There is no doubt what it was, it was very clear to see.
I have also had the ascaris .... it's pretty obvious that they are worms, but they were more, uh, digested? than the tapeworm was.
I hope no one is getting ready to eat dinner .... I guess they wouldn't open this thread if they were.
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Ocean, The wormwood is one of the most important ingredtients. The dose is not that high. I have taken much higher doses and I did fine.
Are you this nervous with any meds you take? I ask, because I used to be that way. It is part of this crazy disease. Just step into it lightly. You may or may not see anything with the first round.
Let us know how you do. It usually takes about 5-7 days to get the herbs,
Gael
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Six, Thanks ,
I passed some of the flat ones. Can't quite remember how long they were. I passed tons of round worms (bowls full) and many 16-20" ascaris.
I used to pull all of the long ones out of the toilet so I could measure them and I would just stare in disbelief. One that I pulled out that
It was 8" long black and was twisted around like a rope. I kept saying, "no wonder I have been so sick"
Gael
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Gael, Yes yes and more YES! I hate taking anything I haven't taken before. It got much worse last summer after I ordered something online for anxiety and after I took it (it was a liquid and I didn't notice anything at first), my heart started pounding out of my chest.
I had never had that happen before, not with panic attacks, not with anything! From what I've read, I wonder if I could have gone into a-fib for a little while. It finally calmed down and it hasn't done it since.
I was really worried when I took the Doxy in march that it would make my heart do that. I shook after taking it I was so scared, but my heart didn't do it. So I know last summer, it wasn't an anxiety thing, never have I experienced anything like it.
However, I was on mag citrate at the time and I got a lot of weird heart stuff last year while on it. But gosh, the thing last July was really really scary, I hope to never experience that type of pounding again.
From what I remember, it had licorice extract, sunflower oil, some type of young corn stuff and I think that's it (could have been something else though). I have looked up the name of the product along with the words law suit, and I haven't found anyone dying from it yet, but man, it was really really bad!
So...I did have some reservations before about it, but not like after I had that experience!
Think the licorice extract could have done it? I did find one woman who went into V Tach with licorice extract, but she'd taken quit a bit.
Sigh....I wish the fear/memory of it would just go away.
How did you get over your fear? Did you have a reaction to something and become afraid after, or just worried in general?
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Awww Ocean,
I feel for you, I really do. Yrs before I was dx, I was given antibiotics for periodontal surgery. I had a very bad reaction to them and I now know it was a herx.
When I collpased in 1983, I was given some antibiotics for a gyn problem and was petrified to take them. My mother sat with me for almost 2 hrs trying to talk me into taking them. ( I was 42yrs old then)
I finally did and was okay. There were times I was even afraid to put certain foods in my mouth because I would feel weird on so many things.
I know now it's because a lot of parasites/worms...bb etc make their home in the small intestine. If you look at the parasite symptom list again, I think you will recognize yourself.
I got over it, by stepping into meds, herbs, food or whatever very slowly. I think it was because I could control the dose and therefore any reaction by going slow.
As the toxic load goes down, so will this malady.
I hope this helps you somewhat
Gael
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Good luck everyone. Just keep in mind that these herbs can liberate toxins such as mercury, etc.
Go slow & don't be afraid to stop & rest. The Humaworm has some good support herbs so it may not be as intense as a black walnut, wormwood, clove combo. That may be why the Humaworm protocol is 30 days. The Hulda Clark protocol is 18 days.
Eggs can stay in the system for a long time. I mostly researched flukes since that's my issue. I think they can say in your system for 7 weeks.
I needed to take a break to heal. I could tell my liver was in bad shape after all of this. I don't know if I got them all but I'll have to go back to it later.
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gael,
you and i were talking about the news broadcast then when i saw the actual report with surgeon taking out a big worm out of someone's brain !! glad we got that one cleared up.
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