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D Bergy
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I will run single frequencies in channel sweep mode on occasion, just to see if I can provoke a response. Especially when that frequency no longer produces an effect.

The channel sweep mode varies the frequency 5 Hz above and below the target frequency.

I hope the big sweep produces some positive results.

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quote:
Originally posted by Juli:
Nope!

It is Dr. Rife's 4 hour sweep. It is ran from 24000 hz to 500 hz.

I've been instructed to run it in sections and for less time until I know how I do with it.

With that in mind the first sweep I plan on running is a sweep from 24000 hz down to 20000 hz maybe for 15 mins or so. Then I'll try a sweep from 20000 hz down to 15000 hz and so on.

I have been wondering if this sweep would be all that is needed....instead of running individual frequencies.

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I personally don't know and I don't know if anyone has ran just this sweep in treating lyme and it's co infections.

It is very possible that it could be the best thing any of us could do but again I just don't know. I was told to run this sweep in the beginning that I would get better faster but I wanted to follow Dan's path because I know he got good results.

Maybe Dan would know if anyone has just used this sweep instead of single freqs?

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I personally don't know anyone that has used the big sweep for Lyme or co-infections.

We have a hard enough time finding time to do the Rife/Peters sweep.

Juli is the pioneer for this protocol.

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I personally would not stop running any single freqs that I was getting good hits with.

I'll keep you posted on how I do with the Big Sweep in time.

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RZR,

Your mailbox is full.

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quote:
Originally posted by Juli:
RZR,

Your mailbox is full.

I am so sorry....fixed.

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Please...need everyone's opinions.

Know I sound like a broken record, but I think I am getting worse. Need opinions.

I have been off abx for 10 days now. These are new symptoms I have since going off meds. I have burning hands and feet, stomach and bladder issues, brain fog, and back pain.

How do I know if this is a relapse or it's a herx? Maybe I should stop rifing for a few days and see what happens?

Is this a good time to start Cumanda...never taken it before. I have been hesitant because I wanted to know what rife was doing.

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I would stop treating as you suggested. Until you know whether you are herxing or relapsing, it is impossible to know what course to take.

What supplements, if any, are you using?

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quote:
Originally posted by D Bergy:
I would stop treating as you suggested. Until you know whether you are herxing or relapsing, it is impossible to know what course to take.

What supplements, if any, are you using?

Dan

I use fish oil, oil of oregano, multi-vit, milk thistle, B-complex, magnesium, probiotics.

I also rotate albendazole and Parastroy for parasites.

LLMD also has me taking high-dose cholestyramine for biotoxin illness (mold issues) and also has me taking heavy metal detox. I have been on the metal detox for several months and cholestyramine for 6 weeks.

I am praying it's a herx. I just can't go back to abx.

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Other than the Fish Oil, I don't see much in the way of anti-inflammatory supplements.

We have always used Turmeric and Ginger as they are cheap anti-inflammatory supplements and have lots of benefits. I read a thread here that indicated that Turmeric helps to kill off Babesia also. Something I was not aware of before.

They also thin the blood somewhat to prevent biofilm.

I also take Colestyramine, but for other reasons.

The metal detox thing complicates things as I am sure that has some kind of effect also.

I think it is a good idea to stop treating and find out where you are with this first. I personally do not like blindly trying to treat things. A little understanding of what is happening really helps a lot.

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I should also mention that Cholestyramine blocks cholesterol, which is not particularly good for the brain, which lives on fats. That was its original use as a cholesterol lowering treatment.

Just so you are aware of that.

Dan

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It almost feels like a herx from yeast die off. I know I have a huge yeast issue, but I haven't been feeling well enough to take Diflucan.

Is it possible to have yeast die off just from stopping abx? I have always taken VSL #3 DS probiotics at 900 billion cells per day and continue to do so.

Yes, I do need to add some anti-inflammatory supplements. I have ginger and fresh ginger root. I will add those now and order some tumeric.

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RZR,

What about that drug your LLMD placed you on to help you detox? You said others told you that it causes inflammation. I'm just wondering when did you start that drug could that be the culprit?

I suppose it's possible to relapse but I would think a bit strange to begin relapsing within a couple of hours of stopping two in a half years of abxs.

I have a friend that herx's from cutting back sugar because she has so much yeast in her system have you changed your diet?

I hope you get it figured out soon!

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Yes, cholestyramine can cause inflammation. I started that 6 weeks ago.

I have been off abx about 10 days now.

No, I haven't changed my diet.

I hope I get it figured out too! lol!

Thanks, Juli & Dan.... [Smile] truly appreciate all your help.

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D BERGY, last week you suggested 832 for bart. I have a doug coil and I don't know what the capasitor switches should be set at. Can someone that uses this machine get me on track please. Thanks
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Does this guide help?

http://dougcoilmachine.com/files/Using%20the%20Coil%20Machine%20for%20Low%20Frequencies.pdf

I do not have a coil machine, so I am not going to be much help with operating one.

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Thanks again Dan.
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Arrived home yesterday from a 4 day hospital stay for bronchitis and acute asthma. Haven't been sick with lung issues for a very long time since running the R/P/P sweep and although I did get sick I did not get as sick as I normally have in the past so less meds and hospital stay has been a blessing.

Husband was dx'ed with a very low grade of prostate cancer this week. Very small area and none aggressive. Doctor said watch and wait. Doctor stated he will die from something else before he would ever die from this type of PSC. His PSA will be checked every 3 months and then another biopsy in about a year.

Not happy about the dx but grateful for the prognosis. Doc said 50% of the men are walking around with this type of PS cancer at this age but post will never get a clinical dx because it is so very mild.

Now here's the plan.. What a great time to put the rife to the test! I have a feeling from what I have read cancer is easier to cure then lyme and it's co's I suppose we will know in time.

Hubby has been rifing diligently and will continue to do so. I'm hoping in time I will be able to give a good report and we can physically see the results of rifing.

Yeah, Yeah, Yeah I know it's a (OT) off topic but I'm hoping to give encouragement to those who are already rifing or thinking about rifing. I will keep you posted to those who are interested.

BTW, I ended up in the hospital just hours after hearing his dx. Sometimes stress is inevitable but were back on track and are feeling confident with our plan.

Hubbies, doctor is one of the top notch around in his field and he is affiliated with Michigan's Number One hospital in the state that also ranks top 10 in the nation last I checked.

Hope you all are doing well! Merry Christmas to all!

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Juli,

I am so sorry to hear about your husband and also that you have been sick. Glad your husband's prognosis is good and that you are feeling better.

Rife treatment will be interesting.

[group hug]

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=321043319534&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123

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quote:
Originally posted by RZR:
Please...need everyone's opinions.

Know I sound like a broken record, but I think I am getting worse. Need opinions.

I have been off abx for 10 days now. These are new symptoms I have since going off meds. I have burning hands and feet, stomach and bladder issues, brain fog, and back pain.

How do I know if this is a relapse or it's a herx? Maybe I should stop rifing for a few days and see what happens?

Is this a good time to start Cumanda...never taken it before. I have been hesitant because I wanted to know what rife was doing.

The brain fog and burning feet sound like bart flare possibly. Perhaps try several of the SS freq. for bart to see you can knock down the bart. Cumanda is good also. I am on my second bottle.
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Hi,

Back in 7/2010 I purchased for $27.15, Bryan Rosner's "When Antibiotics Fail: Rife Machines....."

I let my neighbor "borrow" it for her cancer diagnosis. She never used it and then passed away....so sad.

Now the family doesn't know where it may be and I don't want to bring it up.

Does anyone have a used copy that they would like to sell to me.

I would hate to pay $35-$46 to re-buy it!!

Anyone??

Thanks,
LAXlover

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Here ya go LAX....27.00

http://www.nextag.com/When-Antibiotics-Fail-Lyme-1230171029/prices-html

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Hey, thanks jarjar, I bought it!!!

-LAXlover

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quote:
Originally posted by Juli:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=321043319534&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123

Woo hoo! Merry Christmas to me! I am the proud owner of this!

Thanks & hugs, Juli!

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Juli....

Your mailbox is full.

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I plan to update the GB-4000 I purchased on eBay to the newest software.

I just sent another GB-4000 for updates a couple of months ago. Jeff mailed back a disk labeled
"GB-4000 V1.4 Programming Software." Can I update another GB-4000 with this myself?

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Normally the disk is to re load your software back into your GB 4000 if it gets knocked out. This happened to me once when I was running both MOPA's at once but it can happen easy enough if the RF travels from you back into the machine.

I now use the eraser end of a pencil when touching the keypad when it's running to prevent this from happening again plus it takes the command better then just my finger.

To answer your question my guess would be unless your GB 4000 is updated to run the V1.4 software then Jeff will have to do it but check with him to make sure.

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Juli:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=321043319534&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123

Woo hoo! Merry Christmas to me! I am the proud owner of this!

Thanks & hugs, Juli!

Wow" I didn't realize the GB 4000 came with this MOPA you got a SUPER GOOD DEAL! Merry Christmas and a Ho ho ho to you! Happy Dance for you!

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Juli, so sorry to hear you were hospitalized and that your hubby got the cancer Dx. I'm so glad he will not have to have radiation because it can cause colon cancer. Glad you are both managing okay.

Everybody: I still dont get gating! I must be dense but I am still confused. If I am using square waves anyhow, does gating make a difference? If I do use gating, what rates should i choose?

Juli, did you notice a difference after you started gating?

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Cottonbrain,

Thanks I'm doing fine now I think it was a bit of a flu and my thyroid out of whack so I'm back on top. Hubby, probably has this cancer fried by now he has been using them dueling MOPA's Lol!

Gating is something you do want to use when using any killing freq. I'm not sure how old your GB is but you can turn on the gate by pressing

Gate > 3 > Enter it will stay on until you turn your machine off.

You can also if your machine is newer try hitting the Gate button once the freq begins running. In the upper right corner of your screen you should see a G pop up in front of the SQ so it will read GSQ letting you know you are Gating Square Wave.

To set your Gating settings follow this info below it will hold these settings every time you turn your machine on so you Will Not have to re enter them unless you have your machine upgraded or something happens to your machine.

1. Press>Gate>3 set gate rate to 1000 hit Enter.

2. Now you should see your Duty Cycle set at 50 hit Enter.

3. Push the Period button (.) set Duty Cycle to 90 hit Enter. That's it! Your good to go!

To remove a number use the backspace or delete key.

No, I did not noticed a difference when I began gating I just kept getting better [Smile]

We so need a forum that has categories. Hope this helps! Juli

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thank you, juli -- i will try it tomorrow. thx for the details
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Think I am having major bart issues.....JarJar you were correct.

I am now also having major anxiety issues that were not there before going off abx (over 3 weeks now).

I am rifing for bart and ordered Cumanda.

Can anybody recommend anything else to help with aniety?

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Astaxanthin. If the anxiety is caused by inflammation, it should help.

Dan

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quote:
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Astaxanthin. If the anxiety is caused by inflammation, it should help.

Dan

Thanks, Dan.

Turmeric, as you suggested, worked wonders for inflammation within days. I will try adding astaxanthin.

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quote:
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Think I am having major bart issues.....JarJar you were correct.

I am now also having major anxiety issues that were not there before going off abx (over 3 weeks now).

I am rifing for bart and ordered Cumanda.

Can anybody recommend anything else to help with aniety?

I got a major bart flare in my brain when I started using an IFR sauna. I put a positive foot pad on my forehead and a negative foot pad on the back of my neck and leaned back in a recliner and I was able to knock it down pretty quickly using several bart frequencies. Hope it helps you as much as it did me.
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Wow! Thank you jarjar! I had no idea the pads could be placed on the head.

I felt okay this am until I rifed. Maybe it's part of the herx, which would be a good thing!

Thanks for everyone's help.

Merry Christmas to all!

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So, is it safe to say that the majority of people in this thread who have tried rife have experienced positive results from its use?
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Got my GB-4000 and MOPA today from eBay.

I am pretty sure the vacuum tube inside the MOPA unit was damaged during shipping. It was just freely moving around inside. I guess seller didn't know to take the cover off MOPA and remove the tube.

Anyone know cost of a new vacuum tube?

I tried calling AAA Productions, but no answer.

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If the shipper's packing error clearly resulted in damage, they should make good on that. Hope they do.
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Has anyone used crystal resonators with their rife machines?
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quote:
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If the shipper's packing error clearly resulted in damage, they should make good on that. Hope they do.
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Yes, I hope so too.

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I do not know what rife is...but I can't tolerate anymore damage from antibiotics.

Do you have to pay thousands for a machine?

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The tubes r about 25.00. Jeff was going on vacation around this time of year so keep calling. Still don't have the interenet hopefully soon.

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You can get a very basic machine new for under a thousand.

I really do not know what percentage of Lyme patients have substantial improvements from frequency treatments. It would be an interesting poll.

I do think a majority of the people on this thread have improved.

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Rifing has given me my life back! Best thing I have ever done in treating Lyme and 7 co infections! For the most part I am symptom free unless I really over exert myself or I over rife certain pathogens but I'm still working on that! I've come a long way from where I was 2 years ago!

Rzr,

I'm back online. Your RF light does not light when using the Audio Mode so that is NOT a problem.

The vacuum tube that is inside your MOPA did you carefully attach the plug on the top of it?

The seller probably did not know that they should have taken the tube out and packaged it separately. When I send our MOPA to Jeff he always has us remove the tube because it is very sensitive.

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quote:
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The tubes r about 25.00. Jeff was going on vacation around this time of year so keep calling. Still don't have the interenet hopefully soon.

Great...not expensive. I am sure that is the problem.

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Juli,
Your posts give me hope that my son and I may one day may get well after 13 years of suffering. We still have not been officially diagnosed with Lyme. I was bitten again in March of this year and since that time have had terrible heel pain/inflammation, chills and cold symptoms continually, a lump and itching at the site of the tick bite, dizziness and fatigue.
In October I started Rifing with GB4000. I used many Lyme frequencies for 2-3 minutes and detox freq. for same amount of time. Within a day or two my chills and cold issues disappeared and my heel pain greatly improved. The improvement in such a short time was truly amazing!! After about 3 weeks I really started to crash. I cut back on the number of frequencies and the amount of time for each. The problem now is that my symptoms have started coming back, especially the heel pain. It's very clear to me that Rifing is working but I'm not sure how to proceed from here. I have taken a bit of a break over the Christmas vacation, but leading up to this I was really herxing after doing just a few Lyme freq., a few detox freq and healing and rejuv freq. for 30-45 seconds each. I guess that was still more than my body can handle at this point. Is it best to stick with one frequency at a time and try to increase the amount of time on that one before adding another frequency to my regime? I used frequency 432 today for 1 1/2 minutes. I'm hoping my body can handle this.

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Try treating for Bart. Often, when one infection is decreased, it allows another to increase.

Try 832 Hz and see what happens. Bart Herxes can be brutal. Don't start until you can afford a little down time.

Good luck.

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Has anyone used crystal filled wands with their rife machines?

Here's a link my husband found...
http://www.myenergywave.com/index.html

He was reading somewhere that the different crystals helped with healing and regeneration.

Here's the link explaining what they do.

http://www.myenergywave.com/Crystal_Resonators.html

Anybody know anything about these?
Thanks!

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Janiniewager,

Glad I and others have given you hope and yes there is hope with just rifing alone as I and others are proof! I had the foot issues also it was my worst symptom I could barely walk. I was sooo very sick but rifng has restored my health and I am totally pain free now!

In the beginning rifing can be tough but for me I kept going even if it meant it was going to kill me and honestly I wasn't sure I was going to survive at times. Like so many others I became sicker and began thinking rifing wasn't working for me but in time I found that it was!! I am now so glad I stayed the course it would have been easy to just quit and that would have been a huge mistake for me!!! Some say it is because they cannot detox fast enough I do not know if that was my problem or not but I lived and now have my health back!

I followed Dan Bergy's path that he used in treating his wife. It's a good path in my opinion and I credit it to my rifing success. There are a lot of bunny trails out there so read all you can. I used the same machine as you for about the first six months with very good results but then added in the MOPA as it is more powerful and hits deeper.

I would recommend you go slow but it is good to push your times when you can. My goal was to be able to run each freq for 20-25 mins then 3 times per week other then Bart I ran daily for 30 mins. I also used higher harmonic's of a freq as Dr. Rife did but not at first because I felt I could not handle any extra kick. Something to keep in mind.

For Lyme I use 612 hz, 2016 hz, and 432 hz. For Bart Quintana I use 357 hz and Bart Hanslae 832 hz. Myco plasma 690 hz and 880.2 hz. These are the freqs I began with and still use. Bart was making me the sickest in my opinion followed by lyme. I added other freqs later as I discovered I reacted to the pathogen freqs.

Drink lots of water and do all you can to detox daily!

I highly recommend using 10,000 hz for 8-10 mins after all daily sessions. It cut my herx's by half and I now believe it also has accumulative effects.

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Hi,

Sorry if this has been gone over before in the thread. This thread is extremely long. I have eye issues (double vision and eye pain) and reading is difficult for me.

My question is basic: How does one get started with rifing? Did you all just take a chance and buy a machine or were you able to try someone else's machine? If you tried it first, how did you find someone willing to let you try their machine?

I've been off abx for almost three months. While I feel good overall, I still have some symptoms that are getting worse. (eye pain, tinnitus) I don't know if this is Lyme coming on again or if these are just issues caused by Lyme that I will deal with the rest of my life.

I'd like to try rifing to see if I have any reaction. I was on abx for over a year, and I only had one herx, when I first started antibiotics. I don't what that may mean.

I had my CD-57 checked a month ago, two months after being off abx. It was 20. I know that not as much stock is being put in the CD-57 anymore, but still, a number that low concerns me.

So, can anyone point me in the right direction? I already read Rosner's book but other than that, I don't know where to start.

Again, apologies if this has been covered in this thread. I just can't do that much reading to find what I'm looking for.

Thanks.

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hi Sideways

it really helps to have someone to guide you in the beginiing. I was at death's door after 5 years of massive amounts of antibiotics and getting worse

Have every virus, coinfection, parasite, lyme you can name. I was on 25+ meds NOT including antibiotics

Been rifing a year with the help of a wonderful person who has helped at least 200 others like me. We have kind of come up with a plan that is working pretty well for our group,

We don't see any llmd docs, only holistic docs, special chiropractors, etc

It's been a year for me today, off all antibitocs, 4 more meds to detox, and I am rifing one hour and a half now almost at full power. The roughest year of my life but well worth it

be happy to pm you with info-it's important to have a good network

Happy New Year!

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I've been researching and convinced I want to purchase a GB4000 w/ MOPA. Any suggestions on where to purchase a new machine? Not sure I'm comfortable with a used machine.

thanks

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Kimp,

I will PM you the info.

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At the defense of this forum, I think there has been some very good guidance here not to mention successful rifing protocols as I am living proof of it! Don't cut us so short!

quote:
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hi Sideways

it really helps to have someone to guide you in the beginiing. I was at death's door after 5 years of massive amounts of antibiotics and getting worse

Have every virus, coinfection, parasite, lyme you can name. I was on 25+ meds NOT including antibiotics

Been rifing a year with the help of a wonderful person who has helped at least 200 others like me. We have kind of come up with a plan that is working pretty well for our group,

We don't see any llmd docs, only holistic docs, special chiropractors, etc

It's been a year for me today, off all antibitocs, 4 more meds to detox, and I am rifing one hour and a half now almost at full power. The roughest year of my life but well worth it

be happy to pm you with info-it's important to have a good network

Happy New Year!



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Dan,

Thanks for your information. I may try frequency 832 this week. My heel pain is already a little better since doing freq. 432 for 1 1/2 minutes earlier this week.

Juli,

It's so encouraging to know you've been where I am and you're doing so well now. At this point I can't even imagine being able to run any frequency for 20 minutes...can't even imagine 5 minutes. Is there any way to avoid herxes or at least lessen their impact? I believe my big problem is the inability to detox quickly. Detoxing has been a huge problem for me for many years.

Does anyone have any suggestions on the best frequency to use for viruses? That's another big problem for me, but I don't know if I should attempt killing viruses while trying to kill Lyme. Any input would be appreciated.

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janinewagner,


I'm not sure that anyone can avoid herx's if u are using the correct freqs and getting hits but one thing I may have missed was the use of activated charcoal. I can't put it to the test now because I no longer really herx much now but I did use it once when I accidently programmed my GB 4000 incorrectly during the night and ran both Bart freqs for over an hour longer then I should have. I thought for sure this was going to be the Big One possibly sending me to ER but it didn't and I believe it was because I used the charcoal immediately. I took 3 capsules morning and night and had absolutely NO herx what so ever.

Things I did daily when I first began rifing to help detox

Drink lots of water. Add lemon if your stomach and urinary can tolerate it. Lemon is a good detox.

I always took 1/2 to 1 teaspoon of Baking Soda in 4 oz of water 2-3 times daily in the beginning it helps with the pain and or stomach issues or heartburn!

I would take a Espon salt bath if herxing was real bad.

After each daily session I would Run 10,000 hz for 5-7 mins sessions *****. I also ran Auto program 203 for Detox 203 for 2 mins but be careful I herxed in the beginning of using this AP so build your time slow.. I found it to be very beneifical in cutting the herx's in the long run. I also ran AP 470 for lymph support for two mins. I recommend Always test any new freq or AP for 1-2 minutes before running longer!


Here are the products I used and many I still do:

http://www.swansonvitamins.com/swanson-premium-activated-charcoal-260-mg-120-caps

The Charcoal can constipate and rifing can cause diarrhea using psyllium will help regulate the bowels either way. If bowels are loose it absorbs the water.. if constipated it pulls water in.
https://www.swansonvitamins.com/swanson-organic-certified-organic-psyllium-husk-powder-12-oz-340-grams-pwdr

Ginger is a good anti inflammatory I use this liquid daily cause I hate pills.
https://www.swansonvitamins.com/natures-answer-ginger-root-alcohol-free-1-fl-oz-liquid

Krill oil anti inflammatory and breaks down Bio films. Ginger may do the same in breaking down the Bio Films am I correct Dan?
https://www.swansonvitamins.com/olympian-labs-krill-oil-1000-mg-60-sgels

I take 10,000 C a day it is a very good anti inflammatory and helps detox.
https://www.swansonvitamins.com/carlson-mild-c-crystals-6-oz-pwdr

Tumeric is one of the best anti inflammatory and helps detox too. I think this one breaks down the bio films also. Dan?
https://www.swansonvitamins.com/herb-pharm-turmeric-1-fl-oz-liquid

Lithium I take 2 a day helps with anxiety and depression that the herx's and sickness can cause.
https://www.swansonvitamins.com/advanced-research-nutrient-carriers-lithium-orotate-200-tabs

Non FLUSHING Niacin 500 mgs an hour before bedtime can help with restless legs.. (it was always apart of my herx's) can take more if needed but 500 mgs is a good starting point. Make sure it is Non FLUSHING!!!!!

I also take other stuff but this seemed to help the most!

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I believe Ginger, Turmeric and Krill Oil all reduce biofilm in the blood. They all help to reduce sticky blood which probably means breaking down biofilm.

Just a little warning. If you are going to have a surgical procedure quit taking all the above, a couple weeks in advance. I had surgery a few months ago and the surgeon was wondering if I was taking aspirin. He said everything he put back together had blood seepage. It was not a problem, but I had quit taking the supplements a week ahead of time. Apparently it was not enough time to completely leave my system.

Activated charcoal might work well. I have some but never thought of using it for Herxes.

Dan

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Rifing daily, but bladder symptoms keep getting worse.

Anything that will help?

Gyno thinks I could have interstitial cystitis and I do have all symptoms. However, I think it's all related to lyme, co-infections, and yeast.

janinewagner....

I also have detox problems...LLMD said labs show I have some gene type that does not detox well.

Heel Detox kit helps with kidneys, lymph, and liver, but herxes are still tough.

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RZR,

On Swanson.com they have a product called Go Less and it works very well it will take away the frequency and pressure but it takes a while to get into your system full force. I had the same problem and this gave me relief until the Bio Hormones kicked in. Seems you and I are on the same path more then once! Hang in there!!!

Thanks Dan that is good to know! They told me to stop all vitamins and herbs 3 days before my colonoscopy. Glad it went well for me otherwise these herbs may have been a problem more then they knew. Yikes! Thanks for clarifying which herbs break down the Bio Films I can't always remember but know I'm taking them. Lol

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Juli,

Did you have IC-like symptoms too? So, you think bladder problems are more related to hormones than bart or lyme? Did bio hormones take care of the problem?

Maybe I should look into bio's....since 50 is only a few days away. [Eek!] Do you use bio pellets, injections, etc.?

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Bart likes the bladder and like you the abx caused my bad bacteria to be a problem shortly after I stopped abx. After I knew I had dealt with that issue I did still have SS of IC so off to the Uro I went. I took Vesicare for a long time but then switched to Flotrol which is the same as ``Go Less from Swanson'' but the flotrol was $40 a bottle and it worked just as good as the Vesicare. (Vesicare caused me to have a super dry mouth) I found the Go Less worked even better then the Flotrol and it's much cheaper.

I started the Bio Hormones some where in the midst of all this I can't remember just when but yes Menopause was also causing me IC symptoms!

I had read an article of Dr Mercola's about the HRT and he said to insert them vaginally for even more of a natural result so I had my NP prescribe suppositories. I was her first PT to do this. I was having problems with migraines trying to take the Progesterone orally (common side effect) but I could do them vaginally slowly working up. If it hadn't been for Dr. Mercola's article I probably would not have been able to take HRT.

The Go Less should help you out a lot!!!

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Thanks, Juli for all the info.

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Oh forgot to answer I am no longer symptomatic concerning IC the hormones did the trick but I'm sure beating Bart back helped too!

I do take 1 Go Less at bedtime I used to take 4 a day but I probably don't need it [Smile]

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ladies, remember that even bio-identical hormones greatly increase your risk of breast cancer. speaking as a BC survivor.

sorry to go off topic. i be quiet now

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quote:
Originally posted by MannaMe:
Has anyone used crystal filled wands with their rife machines?

Here's a link my husband found...
http://www.myenergywave.com/index.html

He was reading somewhere that the different crystals helped with healing and regeneration.

Here's the link explaining what they do.

http://www.myenergywave.com/Crystal_Resonators.html

Anybody know anything about these?
Thanks!

Manna I work with the crystal tubes and sent you a PM since it has been awhile since you have posted.
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Trying to help out a friend by letting her use my rife EMEM. She had breast DCIS, stage 0. Biopsy and 2 lumpectomies.

Along with my DT EMEM (5a?) there was literature with some cancer frequencies.

Are there other certain frequencies for this???

Help!

Thanks for ANY advice.

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Jarjar, I responded to your PM. My husband had a few more questions.

Thanks for letting me know.

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Testing done by a certain frequency device manufacturer with the crystal contacts using an oscilloscope showed no difference from using regular metal contacts.

Dan

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GB 4000 and Amp

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quote:
Originally posted by LAXlover:
Trying to help out a friend by letting her use my rife EMEM. She had breast DCIS, stage 0. Biopsy and 2 lumpectomies.

Along with my DT EMEM (5a?) there was literature with some cancer frequencies.

Are there other certain frequencies for this???

Help!


Thanks for ANY advice.

You'd probably be better guided over on rifeforum.com

I'm not familiar with your machine and the CF needs to be precise with the cancer freqs my husband is using.

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I can't say enough good things about the GB-4000 and MOPA. It is such a relief not to use the hand cylinders and foot plates.

Juli has been great helping me get everything set up and going...thank you so much! I just hate to keep bugging you.

Does the MOPA have an operating manual of its own? If so, I didn't receive that. I do have the "Quick Start Video" that has helped immensely.

I am still confused about some things. First of all, my unit is about one year old. I cannot get the mili-amp meter to go above 120. I did turn the GB-4000 output level up on high. Should I send the MOPA for an update to increase power or could something else be wrong?

When setting the carrier freq. counter to 3.1 or 3.3, does the handheld meter need to touch the red antenna? There is a youtube video showing the meter just above the actual lit ray tube and someone setting it that way. Does this need to be reset before each use? Is it necessary to key 20,000 into GB-4000 and run to set freq as shown on "quick start video?" I will be moving my ray tube before and after each session.

Is it ok to let wires from MOPA hang down in front? I am not letting them cross each other, but wires are not long enough for me to put behind MOPA and be able to stretch ray tube where I need it.

How did you learn so much about the MOPA and GB-4000? Is there a website that can help so I don't have to bug you guys? lol!

Thanks....Juli or Dan!

Appreciate all your help....truly!

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Just want to say I am so glad I ditched the 3-1/2 years of abx and bought a GB-4000.

I treated babs with abx 2 years and could not get rid of the sweats and chills. Meds decreased them from several times an hour to 10 or so times a day. However, after 2 months of using the GB-4000 and SR-4 amp, sweats now only occur when I am running rife and are very brief. Chills are gone completely.

I did use an EMEM rife machine 7 months prior to getting a GB-4000, but I don't think it was strong enough for me. I stayed on abx along with the EMEM because I could never tell if it was working and I was too sick to let go of the meds. I continued abx for 1 month after GB-4000 until I could increase my rife time.

I have been off abx now for 6 weeks and continue to improve. I seem to herx daily, but it is mild enough to continue rifing daily.

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