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esea
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Seems like a lot of folks at my LLMD's office say they feel better after they get their tonsils out (folks with chronic lyme like me).

My doctor frowns and says "hmmmm" when I tell her I still have my tonsils.

I've been very reticent to undergo any surgery if there's no guarantee it will help me.

What are your experiences with this?
thanks!

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I had my tonsils out when I was five, so I never had them the whole time I had Lyme. I would imagine if you have severely infected tonsils that it would be bad. On the other hand, tonsils are part of your lymphatic system ..... it would seem that something good for your lymph might be even better.

Red root tincture thins lymph from what I've read. You might look at the book Healing Lyme by Buhner. He also answers questions at some website .... I don't know where, maybe someone else can post it.

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I would do everything possible to keep your tonsils and help them be as healthy as possible.

Having my tonsils removed in college when I had mono was a huge mistake. They just had no clue how to treat the raging infection that seemed resistant to the basic antibiotics so they cut them out.

I had a sore throat for 20 straight years after that.

Deal with whatever is wrong and fix it. Don't rip them out. Treat them with tender, loving and adequate care. They are important.
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A ND should be able to help, one who is LL.
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http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi/topic/2/13964?

Topic: How to find a LL ND (naturopathic doctor), acupuncturist, etc.

Includes how to find an ILADS-educated LL ND, an Acupuncturist, a doctor of Oriental Medicine (O.M.D.), or a doctor of Ayurvedic Medicine (D.Ay.), certified herbalists or nutritionists, etc.

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The Red Root tincture mentioned above by SixGoofyKids is detailed here:
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http://tinyurl.com/5vnsjg

Book: Healing Lyme: Natural Healing And Prevention of Lyme Borreliosis And Its Coinfections - by Stephen Harrod Buhner

Website: http://planetthrive.com/2009/08/buhner-healing-lyme-program/

Forum: http://planetthrive.com/category/experts/buhner/

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Familiar with Buhner's work:

http://watercourse-way.com/lyme.html

Natural Healing for Lyme Disease
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I'd find another doctor ASAP.
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Not all lyme doctors recommend this.
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Actually, I've had 3 lyme literate physicians recommend this.

I'd go with what your doctor advises for your specific case.

Dr. K (and others) recommend removing the tonsils in many different cases of chronic illness:

http://www.klinghardtacademy.com/Articles/The-Tonsils-and-Their-Role-in-Health-and-Chronic-Illness.html

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I thought Dr K won't treat people w/infected / large tonsils. He's tough though - no amalgams either!
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I'd say no way! The tonsils and adenoids constitute an important part of the immune system that, among other things, keeps upper respiratory tract infections from spreading. Since we're already immunocompromised, we need all the help we can get; and on top of that, surgery or any similar trauma can really tie up the immune system and make things worse (especially if any steroids are involved--lyme patients should avoid them at all costs.)


My dad had his out in response to recurrent tonsilitis when he was a kid, and all it did was turn it into recurrent bronchitis. I agree with sparkle--find a new doc.

seek-that doesn't necessarily mean he advises having them out.

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Gargle with Colloidal Silver.
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Seekhelp, exactly. Dr. K often asks patients to remove their tonsils and amalgams before treatment. They are a potent source of toxicity to the brain. Dr. K's website (where the link up there is from) has a lot of information on this.
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I had mine removed before I knew I had lyme. I was sick a lot and my tonsils were huge! They had holes in them that collected food or bacteria, I am not sure, but I would feel like I was choking and I had to pull those pockets open and clean them out. Of course, the doc wanted to take my tonsils out.

Since I didn't know I had lyme, I did. I tried everything, from getting a tubial to avoid taking hormones, and getting my tonsils removed at the age of 32.

It hasn't helped one bit! I say don't do it!! It was a horrible recovery, and it hasn't helped, so why bother?

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Interesting what Dr. K says but I would be seriously cautious of having anything removed just on a whim. I don't necessarily agree with everything that Dr. K advocates, though.

He has alot of interesting theories but they are just theories. It's hard to say the exact percentage of people who are really "cured" by any doctor that people respect or mention here.

You have to research it for yourself & make your own decision sometimes - in my opinion.

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I agree do your research before you decide. Do you have chronic Strep?

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Interesting to read about so many diverse responses to having tonsils out. I had mine out when I was 16 after suffering for seven or eight years with chronic tonsilitis, recurring bronchitis, almost constant sore throats, and horrible bad breath. My tonsils were coated with white stuff (looked like cauliflower, collected food in the pockets, and were inflamed.

Recovery for me was not difficult at all, and since I had my tonsils out I rarely get sore throats, no longer have chronic throat inflammation, have had bronchitis only once in 35 years, and no longer have the horrible infection breath. I am glad I did it.

I agree that it is important to do research before deciding on surgery, including consulting physicians who know your medical history.

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Yes INEBG, I do believe there are those cases like yours and others who's have gone on so long that they are grossly diseased, obstruct or show vasculation that could be very dangerous, and should come out.

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unable to identify.Igenex Jan.09IFA titer 1:40 IND
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31 +++ 34 IND 39 IND 41 IND 83-93 +
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