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MannaMe
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What are good choices of foods to eat when your gut is upset during a lyme/bart flare?

Stomach pain, nausea, just plain yucky feeling are the main symptoms.

He's underweight and should have a few more pounds put on. Teenager.

At this point dairy, gluten & sugar free.

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Keebler
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Due to infections and also due to Rx, he likely has "leaky gut" so that's really something to work around with what foods won't go spilling through the gut. First offender: OXALATE containing foods.

Generally in plant to help them stand up, so to speak or give them their form,

Low oxalate diet may be very helpful.

Oxalates can cause lots of pain and actual tearing of the gut lining - and pain from accumulation anywhere in the body.

The worst for oxalates include: spinach; some kales, some other greens, especially beet tops (and the root) . . . almonds, peanuts, some other nuts.

Safe regarding oxalates include zucchini, asparagus (depending upon which list you see) . . . .

Meat and fats do not contain oxalates in general though some spices sure can.

Magnesium CITRATE can be of help along with Low Oxalate Diet.

Questions for his LLMD:

Has he been assessed for h. Pylori?

SIBO?

Is he anemic?

Has he been for diabetes - and for insulin function?

Some with diabetes are heavy while others may be normal weight and even other may be underweight.

If he eats meat, he may need more. the most nutritionally dense meats are from ruminants . . . and the meats can be roasted to be very tender so easier to chew and digest. Some fresh squeezed lemon just before serving adds flavor and help digestion, too.

Good fats like that with cuts of meat (best if pastured and not grain fed), also eggs, bacon (no sugar added).

Fats to add: Raw coconut oil, pastured ghee (the lactose, whey and casein are filtered out so those with dairy intolerance often do well with ghee to help support the myelin sheath around nerves).

Avoid corn or canola oil or any oil that is industrially processed. See Nina Teicholz' book for detail. These can be toxic and could contribute to lack of strength, weight changes and ill health in general.
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Keebler
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Thyroid? Re: weight loss?


To help with digestion / food nutrient retrieval: GINGER capsules, perhaps and it also helps lower inflammation / pain.

I also like to grate some fresh ginger in my stew meat after it's cooked slowly for a while.

[I've not yet looked to see where ginger falls on the oxalate charts, though]

If he takes turmeric, that's high oxalate yet the extract of it (curcumin) is supposed to be lower. That happens with many culinary herbs, an extract will have been filtered to remove most of the oxalate crystals.
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For the past few months, I've seen dozens of lectures and articles regarding OXALATES. I have various work pages all over my computer screen but no energy to pull together some kind of organized links set.

so, apologies for a bit of a mess but here are some that offer good information.

The VP foundation is the best - although he surely can't have vulval pain, their research on oxalates is stellar and can relate to health problems oxalates can cause for both male or female, anywhere in the body.

Same with some of the kidney stone groups, their oxalate lists can be of help (though most of them don't seem to consider it's not just about kidney stones).


http://www.thevpfoundation.org/vpfoxalate.htm

The Truth about Oxalate

. . . Seeds and leafy plants related to spinach and rhubarb contain the most oxalate. . . .

http://www.vulvalpainsociety.org/vps/index.php/treatments/the-low-oxalate-diet

The Vulval Pain Society - The low-oxalate diet - LISTS


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1p4YNGC5ybKyt8Kr1ovG_YVTYf1Hn3Z8lyP-f7-icuBg/edit#gid=0

THE 179 HIGH OXALATE FOODS AND PRODUCTS: BY CONTENT OF OXALATE

excerpts:

MISO - very high - ugh - miso SOUP is very high, miso, not too high.

Almonds, very high
Cashews, raspberries

SOY BEANS, VERY HIGH . . . TOFU, VERY HIGH
AVOCADOS, CELERY, BRUSSELS SPROUTS,
COCOA POWDER, VERY HIGH

https://kidneystones.uchicago.edu/how-to-eat-a-low-oxalate-diet/

How To Eat A Low Oxalate Diet

. . . Here are good toppings. Cauliflower, corn, cucumber, mushrooms, onions, peas, scallions, squash and zucchini are all fine. Tomatoes are fine, too; it is only the sauce that is high . . .

[poster's note for above list: I would never eat corn, though. It's so very high in sugars and really irritates the body in so many ways.]


Search at YouTube for this excellent nutrition research:

Sally K. Norton, Oxalates
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Here is some information:

https://kriscarr.com/blog/spring-into-better-gut-health/

https://kriscarr.com/blog/best-probiotic-foods-prebiotic-foods-for-gut-health/

https://kriscarr.com/blog/how-to-improve-your-gut-health/

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If you are on facebook, join the Trying Low Oxalate group. Wealth of information. Plus spreadsheet listing oxalate content of foods they have tested

My pain really flares when I eat a high ox food

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Trying Low Oxalates is the ultimate in information, per Susan Owens and her years of research on behalf of Autistic children.

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