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canefan17
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Has anybody here done a biofilm dissolve type protocol?
http://www.allergyresearchgroup.com/Mar-2009-Focus-Newsletter-Biofilms-and-Fibrinolytic-Enzymes-sp-90.html

Nattokinase, Serrapeptase, lumbrokinase?


I'm thinking of throwing in nattokinase and/or serrapeptase into my chelation protocol.

I'd take the natto, then 30 minutes later Chelex, then an hour later chlorella and maybe other binders.

I would just do this on the weekends.

/discuss : )

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Have heard that the above can be effective, also good strong digestive enzymes away from food.

ATAK from Systemic Formulas seeks out + breaks up pocketed infections so antiinfectives can get at the bacteria, viruses, etc.

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canefan,
See this article about systemic enzymes:

How Systemic Enzymes Work to Cure Diseases
http://www.newswithviews.com/Howenstine/james174.htm

There is one doctor who suggests a protocol of Wobenzym and Cat's Claw.
The Wobenzym strips the fibrin, "thinning" the blood and breaking down biofilm.
Cat's Claw stimulates the white cells to phage bacteria.

Carol

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All of these are of course supposedly good for hypercoagulation too. I need to try them more regularly.

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canefan17
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Thanks guys.

Ya, Carol... I was going to start Cats Claw soon anyhow. Plus it's in a fiber product I have.


Seems like the timing is a big issue with biofilms, metals, toxins, bacteria.

Maybe not as much as I think.

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mass,

That's interesting... what's in the digestive enzymes that breaks down biofilms.

So if I took them on an empty stomach... would nausea and stomach symptoms be a good sign?

I'm curious what the break down of biofilms adheres?

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I take NOW plant enzymes away from food on some
days and it seems to help detox. not sure about
the biofilms but I do feel better quickly so
I think it may be detoxing. Would expect biofilm effect to take longer but who knows.
Actually I was surprised it did anything but would now say I'm a believer.

Beachinit.

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cane - do not recall all the details. If you want to talk to someone at Systemic I can probably set that up.
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Appreciate. I might do that.

I still have a bottle of digestive enzymes from Molecular that I'm gonna run through first.

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I was a bit off center (wherever that is) yesterday. They make about 4 or 5 different types enzymes.

I can call them (boy what a brilliant [bonk] idea) and then post !

Either way should be fine. [Cool]

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I was wondering the dosage and frequency of taking digestive enzymes in this way.

We may have been doing this in a round about way using Turmeric and Ginger which also break down fibrin and decoagulate the blood to a degree. We use it for its anti-inflammatory effect, but that is just one aspect.

Possibly an important part of why our results have been very good so far.

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My LLMD has me on Boluoke (lumbrokinase 20mg)twice a day on an empty stomach. When I first started this I definitely herxed. I also use detoxamin suppositories (EDTA) every 3rd night. I do take lots of mineral and vitamin supplements too (positive for KPU)
Before I saw this LLMD I was trying to treat biofilms myself with allicin, NAC and chlorella, again this did have some sort of impact but I think for me the Boluoke seems stronger.
I also liked the sound of Rechts Regulat for hypercoagulation, but I have never tried it myself.

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According to Dr. K, BioSil (silicon, it's called jarrosil now) is good for treating biofilms.

http://www.betterhealthguy.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=163:klinghardt-conferece-lyme-and-other-chronic-infections&catid=42:blog&Itemid=61

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Is there any danger to using natto and/or serrapeptase on a pulsed regime?

So maybe only taking it 3-4 times/week?(I'm trying to cycle it around my chelation days)

Or is it wise to take it every day?


I wish I could find more Lyme-protocols related to these enzymes.

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Cane, they will be coming! remember this is new stuff and not everyone "gets" it yet.

Buoloke in myexperience is the strongest, then nattokinase. I use both paired with turmeric.

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