Topic: Why is it considered good when we get cold or flu?
tricia386
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Okay so I have seen several posts on here about getting colds and flu.
I heard some people say that its good when we actually catch something because our immune system is working right again (makes no sense to me)
I have also heard people say its bad because it means we have a weak immune system...I am very confused...
Could someone please shed some light for me!
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i dont have an answer for you, im curious to know also.
If your immune system is working that means its causing symptoms, cold viruses are attacked and killed and thats why we get headaches and stuffy noses and sore throats. I know that when i had lyme untreated and early treatment for 2 years i never got a cold, when i got my symptoms under control and went into a sort of remission of lyme, i got colds like crazy!
its very strange but i have considered this question many times and am curious to see other responses
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tricia386
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Ya, I am wondering about this too!
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I started getting colds and flus again when I started getting better. I don't know that it's good per se, but it was a sign for me that my immune system was starting to work with some semblance of normal.
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i currently have a cold, and had another one a few months ago. my first year of treatment i had 0 colds, not even a runny nose.
that being said i dont think im getting much better. i still feel like crap. i thought i was getting better in november but it was just a good run.
after reading everything i can and going to tons of drs appointments and having seen a LLMD over 5 times i can honestly say i have no clue about this disease.
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tricia386
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still confuseddd
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tricia386
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still confused
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In chinese medicine this actually makes a great deal of sense (my husband is an acupuncturist, so that way of thinking is common for us). I'll try to describe as best I can in layman's terms.
The idea is that normally our body has an outer level of defense, which protects us from things coming into our bodies (cold, wind, bacteria, virus, etc.). When we are too weak, this outer level of defense is down and can't fight off these common influences.
In western medicine, we'd probably call this the immune system.
When this happens, the cold, wind, bacteria, etc....whatever is out there...it just comes straight in to us -- with nothing stopping it. When this happens, these forces come deeper into us and just kind of hang out. They hurt us, but are kind of "covered over" by all the layers they were able to move through.
So, the illness forms an retained pathogen". The illness is there, but we don't actually "get sick" because we simply don't have the energy to push it out -- it still taxes our system though.
So, when we actually DO get sick, it means either:
1) The body is now strong enough to push out some of that retained pathogen, and let us feel the sickness that was there all along.
AND / OR
2) That outer level of defense is working again, which makes us feel sick as it's fighting off cold/wind/bacteria...whatever...that is trying to come in. That "fighting off" means that the immune system has the energy to do it's job again, rather than allowing the illness to penetrate more deeply.
Don't know if that makes sense, but it's the best I can do right now.
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Over the last 17 years...No fevers, no sniffles, no sore throats...
Once in a while I start throwing up... and I can't stop. Still no fevers. Temp never goes above 97 degrees. Still don't feel sick. Just throwing up.
The first time this happened it was an infection in my jaw. IV abx in the hospital.
The second time it was 'walking pneumonia' Zpack & drink plenty of liquids.
The third time another unexplained jaw infection. Pulled a tooth & amoxycillan - I was pregnant.
The fourth time they took my gallbladder out because they claimed the stones were causing this.
The most recent episode I was hospitalized for 5 days. Every time they would take me off the IV, I would start projectile vomiting. This time they said it was a rare condition called 'sphincter of oddi.' 5 muscle relaxers a day... after a few weeks of this I found Acidophilous did the trick and without the side effects of the muscle relaxers.
Never a fever. I keep a supply of suppository compozine (stops vomiting temporarily) because the hospital is 45 minutes away.
I think my immune system was shut down in defense to being constantly under attack.
Lately, since I have lots of critters coming out with parasite cleanses... I think this has been a problem all along. Possibly the root cause of the immune system not responding to infections.
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Lyme Aware, thanks, that is the best explanation I have heard about this phenomenon. It also explains why I "felt" like i was catching colds and flus all the time as I was getting better when no one else was getting sick at all.
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tricia386
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hmmm I feel like that now sixgoofykids. maybe its a sign I am in the right direction!
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Sharing this response by "Ann-Marie" to a similar question on Lyme Friends: (www.lymefriends.org.)
"The problem is, when Lyme enters the body, the immune system mounts an initial attack, but these stealthy mo-fos actually take over the macrophages (the immune cells charged to kill bacteria, yeast, etc.). They enter them and hide there , change thier function, and even prolong the life of those immune cells. In this way, they hide within our own cells and change the immune sytem to evade it. So we end up with not really an immune deficiency, but immune dysfunction. It doesn't work in some areas and over works, causing us harm in other areas. In doing so, they are also the gate keeepers that open the gate up to all sorts of other bacteria, viruses etc. Because your immune system isn't functioning well we become susceptible to mold toxicity, heavy metal toxicity, parasites, and even chemical sensitivities. Because of all this our hypothalumus stops functioning normally (thyroid, adrenals etc.) and important hormones become imbalanced or low. So next time your herxing, do a victory dance, because it means you're winning the war. Good luck my fellow warriors!"
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I don't think that's true for everyone. I catch everything and I have low immune function.
I don't know if there is any data to support getting a cold is good.
Well it isn't for me anyway. They set me back for weeks and sometimes months.
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after having 2 colds between October and December(the one in December was the worse cold in 10 years) i went to my LLMD and asked her if there was any relevance.....she said absolulety not.. she had lyme as did her husband and three kids.
Enough said for me .
Dave
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