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Sorry to post this, but I am getting worried.
Since doing a Blessed Herbs cleanse, I have been having a problem with Hemmorroids. The issue doesn't seem to resolve. I used witch hazel and preparation H suppositories.
Over the past few weeks, I have been getting a lot of blood in my stools. It hurts to have a bowel movement, and feels like a cut being rubbed. My friend, who had a similar problem, said that I probably had what he had, which is a rectal tear.
This made sense to me. He gave me an extra tube of prescription Hydrocortisone cream that he said worked for him.
The cream seems to work, but only for a while. If it isn't constantly applied, I continually get blood.
Ive been at this for almost 2 weeks. I am worried first off, about the hydrocortisone. I know steroids are an immunosupressant. I am already Taking Cortef for Adrenals. I worry that this may be too much. It is a small amount of cream, but it is applied rectally.
Plus I wonder if it is even working. Has anyone else dealt with this kind of unpleasantness? If so, could you recommend a non pharmaceutical solution that really works? Or a good, non steroid solution that clears this up?
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Sounds like you have a fissure.
I had one for about 2 years and man-o-man was that painful.
I tried EVERYTHING over the counter and pharmaceutical.
Then I got this natural stuff online made by Zenmed and it's called Ziro.
Best.stuff.ever!!!!!!!
Cleared it up in less than a month.
I loved it so much, I bought a bunch of tubes of it and give it to my friends and family with hiney issues...LOL.
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Dude, don't worry so much about rectal bleeding. Some guys have that for years, and they just live with it.
And just for the record, I don't think this subject is "GROSS" at all. Everyone has an anus, everyone has a butt hole, everyone poops from that butt hole. Half of us on this forum probably have hemorrhoids! The gross thing would be if someone DIDN'T have a butt hole... yuck!
Personally, I would NEVER apply any topical steroids while fighting off Lyme, especially for a benign problem like this one.
#1) I highly suggest you research "squatting toilets". This is the greatest cure, and the greatest preventative of such problems.** You can easily convert your regular toilet into a squatting toilet.
I have a motto: "Once you squat, you won't stop."
Squatting is natural, whereas sitting on a toilet like a lazy bum is not natural. Sitting on a toilet is the main cause of hemorrhoids. It also causes hernias, fecal compaction, incomplete elimination, and many other GI types of problems.
#2) Make sure you are getting enough probiotics. You could also give yourself probiotic suppositories or enemas also, if you prefer. The only thing I'm worried about is that since you're on antibiotics, your body won't be as protected against infection. I do know that guys who aren't on abx can have rectal bleeding daily for a long time without ever getting infected. The probiotics will just be an extra protection.
#3) Take stool softeners and drink a lot of water. I would highly suggest taking a lot of magnesium daily until your stools are constantly soft. Do this for a few weeks, and you'll see how quickly the problem heals up. The magnesium is also good for Lyme** (most people would say).
#4) If you REALLY want this to go away soon, you should do enemas daily to aid in elimination. It's the same idea as #3 above, but more certain. Plus you could do coffee enemas, which are GREAT for curing Lyme and making you feel good!** And another bonus - you could put some probiotics in the enemas to protect against infection.
Anyway, those are just my humble opinions. I hope I have helped some.
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I don't think it's a "gross" subject either.
I think mainly you don't want to worry about infection from a rectal tear.
More than steroid cream you need stool softner. I agree with the enemas suggestion.
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quote:Originally posted by James1979: And just for the record, I don't think this subject is "GROSS" at all. Everyone has an anus, everyone has a butt hole, everyone poops from that butt hole. Half of us on this forum probably have hemorrhoids! The gross thing would be if someone DIDN'T have a butt hole... yuck!
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Hambone I'm glad you got better. I was doing a little research this week and it looked like nobody ever healed up.
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I really love that quote James! Too true. Some people would rather not think about it, but I am with you.
I wonder about Enemas. I have no problem going at all. I rarely ever have to push even a little. Isnt an enema for a constipated person?
Thanks a ton for all this info everyone!
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just ole paranoid me but I'd heAd for the doctor just in case. It's better to be safe than sorry
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Lymeboy - I also used to think that enemas were just for constipated people, but that's not the case.
Especially concerning coffee enemas, the main benefit is from cleansing the liver, not from cleansing the colon. This is a HUGE benefit for Lyme (and other chronic-illness) patients, and I wish more people would take advantage of this inexpensive and very effective therapy.
But in your case, you would have the added benefit of having all of your poops come out without any effort at all. Yes, you might not be pushing much right now, but even a little pushing will make the bleeding problem worse. With the enemas, the stuff comes out automatically.
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Randibear has a point. If you've had a problem for a couple weeks and it's not getting better, you need to be evaluated.
It's dangerous to get diagnosed by people who don't know enough about the situation. Continued use of hydrocortisone cream can cause the skin to become thinner. If you've been using this and it hasn't helped by now, stop.
Or it might be a hemorrhoid. Either of those could cause blood in the stool.
Get some unscented baby wipes to keep the area clean, and use a dab of Vaseline for irritation. If you're straining, a stool softener can help, the store brand of Colace is fine.
I did have an anal fissure once, and the pain was severe enough that I needed to use breathing techniques that I had learned in childbirth classes.
Look up horse chestnut and butcher's broom at iHerb.com...people are having good results for hemorrhoids with these.
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quote:Originally posted by mr al:
Hambone I'm glad you got better. I was doing a little research this week and it looked like nobody ever healed up.
I healed. It's been healed about 2 years now and has never been a problem since. I might have a hemmorhoid try to act up here and there but I just slap some of that stuff on and I'm good to go.
But never again had a fissure.
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I am pretty sure I read in an herbal book once that drinking tea made from turmeric would help. The patient was gushing blood and the herbalist in India had them drink a very strong dose of turmeric and they avoided going to the hospital. Will try to find the reference.
Personally I would try some comfrey -- that helped hubby's G.I. in the past. You could either get the leaf or root and make tea or there are many creams for topical use. I think comfrey is perfectly safe if not used in excess.
James -- While rectal bleeding may not be life threatening in most cases, it still should not be ignored. Since hubby has been doing his aggressive babs treatment his RBC and hemoglobin and hematocrit and iron levels are all low. That has all impacted greatly on his quality of life -- the energy drag and fatigue are actually starting to make him depressed as well as feeling physically run down. And then having daily fevers on top of the scorching weather this summer has really gotten him down.
This is not medical advice, just my opinion based on hubby's experiences.
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Been there..done that. I find that taking Fiber like metamucil helps tremendously.
There is a product called Truefiber from Master Supplements that works well with Theralac (it is made by the same company.) It dissolves clear and isn't gritty. And it helps your gut flora.
I had releif in 2-3 days.
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Best thing I know of for all sorts of rectal problems is home-made coconut oil suppositories. Use organic cold-pressed coconut oil because it will have all the nutrients, short-chain fatty acids, enzymes, etc. necessary. Heat processing of fats renders them rancid and loaded with oxidative damage potential.
Anyway, you can get suppository forms online or at a specialty drug store (a compounding pharmacy might even sell them) and then let the coconut oil sit out until it softens enough to pour into the suppository forms. Then place the suppository forms in the refrigerator and once they harden, wrap each one in a square of waxed paper or aluminum foil and store in a ziploc in the refrigerator.
Optionally, you can add other things to the coconut oil before pouring into the suppository forms. I use essential oil of Cypress, because that's excellent for hemorrhoids, but one could also use myrrh essential oil, or put probiotics or any number of other good things for the body in there...consult a Naturopathic physician or herbalist on what is safe to put in the rectum.
Insert (carefully; I use a disposable glove so I don't get stuff all over my hand) one suppository after each bowel movement, one when you first get up, and one just before bed. The nutrients in the coconut oil are very healing and soothing to the mucus membrane in the colon.
Don't use vasaline on mucus membranes - it's a petroleum product and may promote cancer (benzene, from petroleum, is known to cause leukemia, which means that other petroleum products may also contribute to cancer risks...).
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this ziro stuff looks pretty good. I'll have to wait a few weeks to buy it with this "all doctor" budget! in the meantime I think I will try comfrey, its pretty cheap!
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quote:Originally posted by lymeboy: this ziro stuff looks pretty good. I'll have to wait a few weeks to buy it with this "all doctor" budget! in the meantime I think I will try comfrey, its pretty cheap!
You will love it.
I was all healed up before I even ran out of my first tube.
I just used the cream. I didn't use the pills that you can buy to heal your gut.
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quote:Originally posted by Starfall: Hambone--LMBO, don't you mean, "Laugh my butt hole off?" Of course then that would turn this topic into a gross one, as James1979 said.
LMBHO
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I also like the coconut oil in the anus. Whenever I have to lube up my butt, I use coconut oil. It's good for keeping the candida in check.
The funniest thing about this thread is how popular it is, due to the appealing title.
Next time I want a lot of people to read my thread, I'm gonna name it: "Nudity! Carnage! Oh the horror!!"
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Hi, it looks like you have plenty of feedback here.
Razzle's post about the coconut oil seems like a great idea.
What i'd like to recommend is an organically prepared salve from mountain rose herbs, specifically for the rectal area called "sitting pretty balm" ~ Here is a link:
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Yeah, with all the people who DO post gross things, like pics of their poop after a parasite cleanse, I guess we're all just used to unappealing topics.
And James--yeah, I'd read a topic with that title, lol.
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I'm so grateful for this thread...I had the exact same problems today...it's like the board is reading my mind...anyway, thanks for all the info everyone...I'm not as worried as I was.
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next time I will post the header " Butthole trouble!"
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I'm a coconut oil user. I admit it. But I think one must be sure what they are treating in some cases.
I've lived for years with constipation and hemorroids issues. Tried everything OTC and many Rxes and nothing seemed to help. Being close to that colonoscopy age of 50 and being ill with GI and colon issues I had to insure that there wasn't something going on in upper and lower GI.
Upper and lower scope showed gastritis areas of inflammation. No crap! I knew that and I was labeled with IBS. Double crap. Call it what they will...I have a unknown bacteria in my GI that thinks it controls my GI.
So ruling out something serious like cancer is important. Early detection is key. Look at Farrah Fawcett. She died from anus cancer.
But coconut oil is the most effective healer I've ever used for anus issues. I've also used essential oils mixed in with the coconut oil, like myrrh and tree oil. But coconut oil rocks for me.
Adding a few things into my diet the last couple months and I have been constipation free and hemorroid free. I love Almond milk and I munch on almonds everyday. Visalus shakes for lunch a few times a week.
I pray my torture from that end are over. Lots of fresh fruits and veggies too! The darker the better.
Witch hazel is good during the day but loads of coconut oil up and around the rectum at bedtime is aaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh.
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