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randibear
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can you halt c. diff with probiotics? say you think you're getting it. if you started heavy probiotics, would it stop the c. diff or once you get it, you've got it type thing?

uhh, does that make sense?

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my dr didnt want to bother to test me but when i had diarreha and fever (which i assumed was c diff (i have had it multiple times before) i used saccromycess boullardii culrulle and vsl3. the direahea stopped. i have adifferent dr willing to test me now so we will see if i have it now.

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If the bad yeasts are already established, I don't think heavy probiotics alone will get rid of them. The yeasts cling onto the walls of the intestines, so they have already set up their homes. It's a free space issue - first come, first serve. Since the yeasts are already occupying the space, the good bacteria can't recover that space unless you kill the bad guys first.

Of course extra probiotics will help slow down, or possibly stop, the progression of the bad yeasts. But I think the bad yeasts have already been given an unfair advantage due to the abx giving them too much freedom, so we need drastic measures to kill those mamas.

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I talked with a friend the other day who told me about a woman she'd recently met.

The woman had had c. diff and her doctor (probably not an MD) treated her with colloidal silver and strong probiotics.

C. diff went gone gone!

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I could believe that, 17hens... BUT... I have a question... Is c.diff a yeast or a bacteria gone awry?

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excellent too, is it an overgrowth or yeast or maybe lyme bacteria gone amuck?

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No, it's not Lyme.

When in doubt .. GOOGLE [Big Grin]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clostridium_difficile

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from wiki's Ask encyclopedia...

""C. diff", is a species of Gram-positive bacteria of the genus Clostridium that causes severe diarrhea and other intestinal disease when competing bacteria in the gut flora have been wiped out by antibiotics.

Clostridia are anaerobic, spore-forming rods (bacilli).[2] C. difficile is the most serious cause of antibiotic-associated diarrhoea (AAD) and can lead to pseudomembranous colitis, a severe infection of the colon, often resulting from eradication of the normal gut flora by antibiotics.[3]

In a very small percentage of the adult population, C. difficile bacteria naturally reside in the gut. Other people accidentally ingest spores of the bacteria while they are patients in a hospital, nursing home, or similar facility.

When the bacteria are in a colon in which the normal gut flora has been destroyed (usually after a broad spectrum antibiotic such as clindamycin has been used) the gut becomes overrun with C. difficile.

This overpopulation is harmful because the bacteria release toxins that can cause bloating and diarrhea with abdominal pain, which may become severe."

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I wouldn't mess around with C.diff. I've had to treat for it 3 times since beginning Lyme treatment. It always resolves in a couple days on meds, but I continue meds for 2-4 weeks.

I've done Flagyl twice and Tindamax once.

Also take the strong probiotics.

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Oops, I was wrong by calling them "bad yeast"! Sorry.

If they are bacteria, how come our abx doesn't wipe them out?

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yeah, seems funny to take more abx when we've already done them.

one doctor explained it this way tho. abx only do certain things to certain body parts. like one works for the sinuses but nothing else.

at least i think that's what he meant, right?

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will start vancocin thursday..
c-dif, and coumadin issuses..
flagyl effected my INR#,
vancocin is suppose to be easier
on my blood thinning.. exspensive !

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besides flagyl, i used vsl#3, florastor, and kefir. i have been ok for 4 months now.

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