Haley
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I know that there are not many people on Ivermectin. I'm wondering if anyone is combining it with antibiotics... if so, which ones?
I am self treating at the moment and wonder if anyone has taken Ivermectin with Rifampin.
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springshowers
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Doxycycline is one Working synergistically with it So be careful
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Ivermectin has one of the cleanest side effect profiles of just about any med. Should be able to be combined with any antibiotic, antimalarial or antiparasitic.
Hubby has taken it with numerous other meds with his docs approval. His LLMD has actually put several other patients on ivermectin since it seemed to help hubby so much.
This is not medical advice, just my opinion based on hubby's experiences.
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Haley, I'm taking it with my babesia and lyme meds. May also add levaquin too.
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Yes, I am taking Ivermectin while treating bart with Rifampin and doxy.
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Haley
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Thank you all. This is very helpful. Spring - why do you say be careful with Doxy? Did you have a bad experience with it?
Bea. That is great to hear that your husband is doing better! Its good to know Ivermectin goes with most things. Of course I always check the interactions.
Thanks Bailey and RZR - how are you both doing on those combos?
I feel like the Ivermectin opened a hornets nest, maybe there is something else going on. Ugh.
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I've tried Ivermectin twice and had a die off when I first took it. I could clearly feel it had a kill off after 1-2hr after taking it. Both times I took it I had weird visual disturbances.
My vision was blurry upon wakening and I had pulsating blurry vision a few minutes thereafter. I was taking it with 300MG of Doxy, Flagyl, and Biaxin.
Perhaps it does have a synergistic effect with Doxy and for me causes visual disturbance?
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Haley, how has Ivermectin opened up a hornet's nest?
I am still only taking 1/2 3mg. daily. I do feel like it has a cumulative effect; the longer you take it, there is more of an impact. Like Lymed, I can feel it's impact a while after taking it. I have made it a habit to follow a few hours later with charcoal.
The synergestic impact of Ivermectin and the cyclines like doxy may be true. This is convoluted, but before taking Ivermectin, took Zymex II, which is a systemic enzyme parasite treatment. I have the same bug-killing reaction from taking Zymex as I do with Ivermectin. When I took Zymex with Minocycline, it definitely packed a harder punch. It was almost too much. I don't have as strong of a reaction with Ivermectin and minocycline, but that may be because I'm still on a low dose of Ivermectin.
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Haley
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I think I will try following with a binder of some kind. Yes the effects of this stuff hit me like 24 hours later.
Hornet's nest .... I am having MS type symptoms. Its crazy. I almost wonder if I have been infected again or some other infection has invaded my body.
I am going to try the cyclines with the Ivermectin. Problem is I have to work. I just don't know if I will be abel to hang in here. with this stuff.
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Haley -- actually hubby is not doing better. In fact, he is probably the sickest he has been in 3 or 4 years.
After a couple of months on sida acuta and pulsing the ivermectin 3 days per week hubby was feeling pretty good.
For the first time in 3 years he was off all antibiotics, antimalarials, antiparasitics and killing herbs for 50 days -- from 2/24/12 until 4/12/12. Not symptom free but feeling pretty good. Sweats and a few other symptoms were starting to get worse though.
Anyway hubby did what was supposed to be a 5 day antibiotic challenge. Has been back on meds ever since. The 5 day blasting method was a big mistake in hindsight. He killed off lots of things but the hemolysis flushed other things out of hiding. Hubby was briefly in the hospital in late April with seizure like spells and dystonia.
Fevers started again 2 or 3 days into the antibiotic challenge and have continued daily. During the months of April and May we kept trying to adjust meds to get at the fevers. We finally found a combo which worked too well on babesia -- hubby had an even worse hemolysis epsisode. His RBC dropped from 5.0 to 4.15 within 48 hours. WBC and platelets also dropped and bilirubin went up. Was in the ER 5 times and in the hospital for 2 days within a week.
His seizure-like spells and full body tremors and encephalopathy were back full force. It took 8 mg of IV ativan in the ER one day to stop the seizure-like episode. And another day they tried a different approach and his spell lasted for 2 1/2 hours before the shaking and dystonia and vomiting and sweating stopped.
Anyway -- hubby is back on IV rocephin -- the highest dose he has ever been on. Plus a seizure med. And several babs meds including ivermectin.
What seems to have triggered the last episode were 2 med changes -- hubby switched from doxy to mino and his fevers went up by about 1/2 a degree. We also increased his dose of ECGC green tea extract. We think that the mino is less effective than doxy for his infections -- but really hard to say.
Buhner suggests ECGC for babesia and bartonella. Pubmed research shows it can kill babesia and also has anti adhesion factors which work for both malaria and babesia. Keeps the parasites from attaching to capillaries and becoming sequestered.
Hubby has continued on iveremctin at 12 mg or so for a couple of months now. Don't really think the med is doing much anymore -- but we are afraid to stop any babesia meds. Actually just increased the frequency of his lariam. I did stop his babs herbs -- sida acuta, alchornea and ECGC since starting the rocephin.
Not really sure what is next for hubby -- will depend on if his doc still thinks babesia is triggering the fevers. The rocephin is working some on the headaches and it stopped the tremors and seizure like spells for now.
To further complicate the situation hubby has 2 recent dog tick bites -- one while off meds and the other one about a week before his most recent crash. We don't really think he picked up any new infections, but maybe the tick bites hyped up his immune system.
He does have somewhat of a cytokine response to his meds that he had not had for a long time -- his temp goes up for 30 minutes or so a couple of hours after every dose of meds. So his temperature is fluctuating and going up and down 2 or 3 times a day.
Will post an update in a week or so after his LLMD appointment.
Hubby was on doxycycline or minocycline all of the time he has taken ivermectin so can't make any comments about any synergistic effects.
But hubby did feel that the combo of ivermectin and sida acuta was very beneficial added to his other babesia meds.
Bea Seibert
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canefan17
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Bea,
Sounds like Bartonella (which I'm sure yall are aware of).
Have yall tried Levaquin?
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I've followed Bea's post for awhile and her husband has done a plethora of bartonella meds. Want to say at one time he was responding to Factive along with other combos.
Bea will probably chime in later.
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