Topic: ART and Kinesiology - a question for those who understand it.
Marz
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I was chatting with my chiropractor/clinical nutritionist today while she was adjusting my neck.
I asked her if she knew anyone who did ART. She knew it as kinesiology.
She knew I had lyme and possible bartonella. She also knew herself that babesia was a co-infection of lyme and said she'd get a photograph.
I really didn't understand what she was doing when she went to do the copying, but when she came back she put a piece of paper on my abdomen with a picture of bartonella and my leg became weak against the resistance of her arm.
She did another sheet and it was even weaker. That was for babesia.
I said "maybe my body just doesn't like paper." So she tested a blank sheet of paper and I tested strong.
The pictures were black and white photos of slides of the organisms.
I can't believe this. She did this more than once and results were the same.
Is this possible?
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Marz
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Maybe someone who has a person living with them could try this and let me know if it works for you?
I don't have anyone strong enough here who could try to duplicate it for me.
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GiGi
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Don't try this, because that is not all how ART works. Reason: If a person is ill and/or not totally well, very often their autonomic nervous system who gives the answer via the muscle is blocked in its functions, sometimes temporarily, sometimes for a very long time. I was blocked for years by root canals and I could not be treated successfully until I had them removed. I went in and out of blocked regulation too fast for any medicine or remedy to work. Some body functions shut down.
You can tell one of these blocked conditions/dysfunctions already when you start to no longer can stand a bright light, strong odors, smell odors that are not there, noise, etc., or worse, pain, etc.
Before any testing can be done the person has to be "unblocked" for it to be able to give a true reponse. If blocked, the body gives the opposite response. It is even possible that the printer's ink causes your body to block your regulation. Many people can not read the newspaper any longer because it causes blockage.
Many of the vitamins people are taking may do the same thing, and when tested with ART, the proper way, it is found that the supplement or medicine actually blocks the regulation and therefore it not the thing to take. Most people when tested with ART go home with only half the supplements they came in with on their first visit.
Unblocking the patient is a "science". It takes great experience and expertise to find that a blouse the patient wears is blocking the regulation of the patient. And any testing done with that blouse in the energy field of the body is not correct. That happened to me once. Luckily my husband was there with me. I had to take everything off before I could get tested and it was not only the blouse but also the bra I was wearing. My testing/treatment was finished with a sheet draped over me, with instructions to go home and pick up several sets of clothing to come back that night to get tested, so that I could function better and get into a healing mode.
It was a wonderful green silk blouse that I will never forget! I still wear the same bras today, but they do not bother me any longer, because I have detoxed much of the toxic metals I was carrying back then.
None of this is voodoo. I got well this way. Practitioners who have not studied and trained in ART or work with other proven energetic testing methods should not do it. It does not serve the patient well.
It also takes a third arm of a fairly healthy person in the middle to do the testing right.
Take care.
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Marz
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Many years ago, long before my lyme, it was kind of a fad to do muscle testing as a game. I remember we did it with sugar and it definitely did make muscles weak.
So I know this isn't voodoo. But I'm thinking the test with a photo is voodoo. So maybe I reacted more strongly for babesia because there was more ink and I was reacting to that.
This chiro is a nice person, but think she was really testing my gullibility!
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GiGi
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Marz, "This chiro is a nice person, but think she was really testing my gullibility!"
I don't think so. She is very close, but about ten years behind. George Goodheart also did not know about blocked regulation and therefore probably missed a few sore joints. Most "applied kinesiology" is not taking blocked regulation into consideration. That is, sadly, what gives kinesiology the bad names. It has a very scientific base, but many practitioner hang on to the old practice that does not stand up any longer today. ART I think is the only form that takes the condition of the sick body into consideration by first "unblocking" it, so that the body can give the true answer.
I own slides made by High intensity photography at research centers with the Lyme bacteria and of co-infections with which I can test these pathogens, as long as I have open regulation, i.e. my autonomics not being blocked.
About the fun you had with sugar and muscle testing, you could have had one sweet thing around that time and your body only said it is too much. 4 hours later when your body/brain was looking for sugar/glucose which it needs to function, your muscles may not have gone weak.
Or it may have gone weak because of a biochemical consequence to sugar, an allergy. All these variables are part of the art in ART. That is why it takes a lot of practice and studying to do ART right.
Take care and don't give up on your chiro.
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Marz
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Guess I can't grasp that the body would be able to "know" the image on paper or on a slide.
I don't think this is normally part of my chiro's practice. I think because I brought it up conversationally and because she knew of it she decided to try it. I was only there for an adjustment.
I was about to delete this thread because I'm feeling foolish about it, so your mentioning the slides helps.
Are you saying that I don't necessarily have bart or babs because I'm not unblocked?
She repeated all 3 twice and got same results each time.
She said next time to bring the anti-parasitic I'm taking and she'd test that. Is there anything I should know before I do that?
Wish I could find something googling about using images to test. Do you know of anything GiGi?
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It all seems so unscientific to me. But I would like to learn more about it, as many of you are being helped by this. I am going to go to a 'biological dentist' in January.
He uses a procedure for energetic testing with something called 'O Ring'. Have you heard of this? It is very expensive. I don't want to waste my money. My insurance will pay for my dental work but not likely for this testing.
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MichaelTampa
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I have seen the papers with pictures work. As GiGi explains, what this person did isn't necessarily state of the art, but it worthless either. Energy rules, and intentions give off energy. How did that picture get on the page--with the intention of putting a picture of babesia on it--and so the energy of babesia is there. Also, the doc had the intention of testing your reaction to what that picture represented (and not to the substance that the paper was made of). Intention ... energy ... they are real.
For another presentation of similar theory, you might consider watching the movie "The Secret".
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GiGi
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Marz, I spent all day and night at a Dr. K. seminar stretching my brain to where it could not stretch any further... so I will respond tomorrow or Monday because tomorrow is the last day of the seminar. Just wish some of you could have heard some of the discussions and showing of testing of patients. One young lady came with a face that looked like mine 15 years ago, of course with less wrinkles, but also with the Bells Palsy.
I knew instantly what the outcome would be: Lyme and Bart, toxic metals always the base under the infections (so stated by Dr. K. right then and there) Lung worm, and a few more. All tested with the slides and other similar methods. A lungworm frequency vial testing positive for the girl, but instantly negated by the ivermectin frequency/ capsule on the testing block, etc. etc. etc. Telling that Ivermectin is at this time a perfect treatment for the Lungworm.
I felt my heart drop to rock bottom when I saw and heard all, because she looked just as miserable as I was years ago. She has been given a treatment protocol, also involving light photons, certain color,, certain remedies photoned into her at certain intervals by her Mom/caretaker. They can now do lab work if they wish to confirm. I was treated in a similar way years ago, except we still worked with the real life bacteria on ice! insntead of film slides. Out of the fridge, into the fridge. My task in those days was to order the bacteria from the lab for testing. It was at the very early stages of many new ways of treating Lyme, etc. The real life bacteria sealed in safe enclosures was at a later date then photographed by a University research lab and transformed onto good old fashioned slides that probably few of you remember. I remember them very well - having many of them as a child with the frame being metal, then paper, and real glass covering the film.
These slides are today used for testing Done properly. No voodoo. Start thinking sciences, physics, energy, frequencies, resonance.
O'ring testing was invented by Dr. med. Yoshiaki Omura (I think he had a co-brain). It is a very valid testing method. Read up on it. You can find all of it on the internet. Dr. K. uses some O'ring testing during parts of his examination. It is not voodoo either. Omura discovered in his research the lowly Cilantro, the only herb that crosses the bbb for mobilizing metals. Scientific proof from one of the Japanese Universities exists. Forgot which one. That stuff also works - and don't try it without knowing exactly how and when and only with instructions of a knowledgable doctor.
Now I am heading for my well deserved bed looking forward to another exciting day tomorrow learning more. It will be my 81st birthday which I intend to enjoy - missing my husband, and probably shedding a tear or two. But all the people who have helped me get well will be there and I am grateful for all their hard work and dedication to the many very sick people. Their phones never stop, except at seminars.
The last meeting I was invited by Dr. K. to attent I met and saw in action -- the heartwarming Dr. Jones who treats all the kids on the East Coast; Dr. Burrascano; and Dr. Omura, the master of the o'ring testing. One learns to respect this class of guys.
Take care.
Take care.
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Marz
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Wow GiGi that's impressive.Let us know what else you learn or confirm after the meeting tomorrow.
I still can't totally grasp how this can work, but accept from w hat you say that it does. I want to learn more.
And you have a very happy birthday which you deserve very much!
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dbpei
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Happy Birthday, Gigi! Thank you for all the info. I will look up the O'Ring and Dr. Omura.
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MichaelTampa
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Hope you have a great birthday, GiGi!
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