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Rnewman
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In July 2016 I wasn't treated because the doctor knew nothing about long term snake bite effects. I have been fighting leukocytosis since. And fatigue.

6 weeks after the bite they ran a Lyme disease test and it was it was unequivocal in results my ebv was extremely elevated for a past infection.

One of the markers was over 600 . I was reading that rattlesnakes can carry lyme disease. I have lost 30 lbs and keep having episodes they treat me with antibiotics my wbc goes down but comes back.

They already have ruled out leukemia.since Lyme disease isn't that common here. I thought I would ask someone who knew about it.

The CDC says what ever is going on is probably from what the snake was contaminated with. Can anyone help me?

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Brussels
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Roxanne, so sorry to hear about rattle snake bite.


Funny you mentioned it because I had just bought a rattle snake homeopathic remedy before I went to Brazil last month.

It is called Crotalus horridus = rattle snake!!

The reason why I bought it was yellow fever and dengue.

https://archive.org/details/onefficacycrota00neidgoog

If you are not familiar with homeopathy, you could find an homeopath to help you.

Even if the snake was not infected with Borrelia, I would use the Crotalus horridus homeopathic product to cancel whatever illnesses the venom was causing you.

Once you go for a cure on those homeopathic dilutions, if you still have lyme symptoms AFTER YOU TREAT the snake poison with homeopathy, then you will know which is which (whether you are ill from the snake or from lyme).

That is only my opinion.

I got healed from lyme using BASICALLY homeopathic products. They helped me the most out of lyme, and that is why I would start treating the snake bite with Crotalus, or anything the homeopath suggest (even Staphisangria or stuff like that).

Below are some other sites on how people treat snake bites with homeopathy:

http://thefalknerschool.com/2014/10/21/homeopathic-adventures-in-treating-a-rattle-snake-bite/


http://vitalanimal.com/rattlesnake-vaccine/
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Take off your name, in case it is your real name. It's better to be anonymous.

If not your real name, you can leave it.

I hope this helps.

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I told one of my docs once that I thought everyone had lyme, and he agreed with me. Most don't know they have it though (really bad identification and guidelines the idsa puts out).

Don't waste your time chasing them for answers either. You need a lyme literate doc to treat you. Hopefully one who is into alternative treatment.

Some people, actually I think most people try antibiotics, but they only work for about half of them (what my doc told me). Everyone wants to get rid of lyme so I think most try that route.

There is a risk in doing so though, a big risk. They destroyed my gut and it took years to get it back and I still have lyme. Had I known the risk would be so huge I don't think I would have done them.

Abx just do not work for everyone (even the lyme docs will tell you that). Brussels is right, there are other ways to treat. So much info here on Lymenet for you to read. If you choose abx, you still need a good lyme literate doc (LLMD).

You can post in SEEKING a doc to find one. Someone will post back for your area. Don't limit traveling to see a good doc though. Many people fly out of state.

There are some really good books you can read too. Cure Unknown is good (Weintraub). Also all of Stephen Buhner's books are great (the herb master). Still even more things you can try but that's a good place to start.

Also you can read about Dr. Burrascano's treatment for lyme (antibiotic treatment):

http://www.lymenet.org/BurrGuide200810.pdf


It's never just lyme either. There are co infections, so a good lyme doc is necessary. Hang in there, you're not alone, and welcome to Lymenet!

https://www.amazon.com/Healing-Lyme-Borreliosis-Coinfections-Rickettsiosis/dp/0970869649/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1494088405&sr=8-1&keywords=Buhner%2C+healing+lyme

https://www.amazon.com/Cure-Inside-Lyme-Epidemic-Group/dp/1250044561/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1494088490&sr=8-1&keywords=cure+unknown

P.S.: Brussels is right, change your name in your profile so your real name is not showing. You need the privacy here.

(breaking up the post for easier reading for many here)

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Welcome to Lymenet! PM sent with some names of LLMDs in other states.

You need to be evaluated and treated by a Lyme-literate doctor (LLMD). Non LLMDs have no clue about this horrible disease or its complex treatment!

A LLMD is one who has treated Lyme disease and the co-infections which come with it for many years and has gotten patients well. A good one will follow Dr. B's Guidelines, the "gold standard" for Lyme treatment.

Here is a link for them:

http://www.lymenet.org/BurrGuide200810.pdf

LLMDs are far and few between, unfortunately. You need to go where they are. At least half of all Lyme patients go out-of-state to get proper treatment.

Also, most LLMDs do not accept insurance due to the politics surrounding this horrible disease. Read poster TF's explanation, "Why Lyme Doctors Don't Take Insurance":
http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=025539;p=0

When calling for an appointment, ask if they have any cancellations or a waiting list. Patients have been able to get in sooner by doing this.

Check the online state Lyme groups at:
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ArizonaLyme/info

Maybe they can help. They would know better about AZ.

Some more resources for you (including Support Groups info):
http://whatislyme.com/websites-and-support-groups-by-state/
www.azlyme.org

http://www.lymenet.org/SupportGroups/UnitedStates/Arizona/

Read the books written by the top LLMD, Dr. H, titled, "Why Can't I Get Better?" and his new one, "How Can I Get Better?". They are an excellent source of information.

Read "Cure Unknown" by Pamela Weintraub. Get it at your local library or buy it used on Amazon.

View "Under Our Skin" for free on http://www.veoh.com/m/watch.php?v=v21055812yWtmpgB8

Btw - I know you are new to Lymenet, but you should not use your real name, because this is a public forum with all sorts of people on it.

Read this link about it:

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=011844;p=0

To remove your name and info from the signature line, click on "Edit Profile" under Lymenet Flash in the top middle section of the Lymenet page. Click on "Edit Profile" on the left-hand side, scroll down to "Profile Fields" then down to "Signature". Make your changes, then click "Update Profile".

Contact the moderators to change your user name.

Also, please break up your posts into 2-3 sentence paragraphs, as there are people on Lymenet who cannot read large blocks of text due to neurological problems from Lyme.

To do this click the pencil/paper icon, make your changes, then click "Edit Post". Thanks.

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