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I think I got rid of my second babesial infection. At least, my lyme doctor couldn't find it anymore (nor me).
I only do energetic testing, and so does my doctor (ART), so skip the post if you don't believe on these types of diagnostic. I'm symptom free too, of course. No brain fog, no sweats, no change of body temperature, no hot flushes, etc.
I believe there are two levels to treat babesia: first is to kill lots of them, when you get next to symptom free; the treatment has to be aggressive. Second level is to try to get rid of cysts to avoid relapses; this is the most difficult in my opinion.
Then another thing to have in mind in my opinion is that babesia loves the intestines and it loves the brain. So we need things to kill on both.
My first babesial infection in 2005-2006 was treated with: - Riamet (knocked all symptoms of 4 months very fast but I relapsed 2 weeks after); turmeric/ curcuma; artemisinin low doses 30 days (relapsed); artemisinin high doses 3 days then repeated 2 weeks later (relapsed and was sent to emergency with air hunger attacks); what finally did the trick was PC-Noni low doses for a few months. It's a cyst buster.
With this time infection, I couldn't get rid of relapses only with PC-Noni. --------------------------
Here's more or less what I did for this time babesial re-infection. I started having night sweats and strong brain fog in the 2nd night after tick bite in May. I had nigh sweats every night for a while and that convinced me I had babesia again. ART tested positive (2 practioners) and my kinesiological tests too.
I took then (in May/part of June): - homeopathic tick 'soup' from the tick that bit me (started potency 30C or so and went up to 65C) for about 2.5- 3 months
- ledum 200C - gets babs (few globules, once every couple of days)
- PC- Noni tincture (from Biopure, gets babs' cysts), 4-15 drops a day for about 3.5 months
- thyroid sarcode homeopathic for thyroid support (as my thyroid gets messed up everytime babesia is flaring, for about 3 months)
- iron supplements + iron homeopathic (also a babesial symptom; I get lower amounts of Ferritin in the blood very fast with babesia for 2.5 months)
- lots of cleansers: specially chlorella, bear garlic tincture, and loads of MSM, plus some lymph support (for that I use homeopathics mostly OR lymph drainage, but I keep reading red root can do wonders too). This mix of cleansers kept my brain functioning. Sometimes I added chitosan, mucuna bean powder (intestines) and Destroxin. And also a mystery oil (I will call it Endoflex, but I'm not sure, rubbed on skin).
- frozen garlic (gets babs in the intestines very well; but it doesn't cross B/B barrier according to my tests)- 3 "00" capsules a day, after meals. It tested very good for acute phase (middle term: about 1.5 months or so)
- gardenia decoction (it was my main babesia killer, together with phellodendron decoction) (amount: was about 10-15 'fruits' a day for about 3 months)
- phellodendron: gets babesia and other stuff, according to my tests it crosses b/b barrier. (I took decoctions for more than 2 months, 1-2 soup spoons). It has berberine as a chemical component (it gives to it its yellow color).
- Artemisia annua decoction: twice a day (it tests better than powder; I took it for less than 1 month; then was on and off when it tested, but not too much).[it can't be taken together with other decoctions]
- astragalus: on and off, tested good for babesia acute infection.
- KMT program 2 (babesia and borrelia). (on and off)
- bee pollen (helps to get bab's cysts; I took on and off, when it tested, short term)
- artemisinin low doses (about 300mg/400mg a day for about 5 days, then pause for 3 days then continue for about 3 weeks) (artemisinin doesn't get cysts)
- pau d'arco tincture tested once as babs cyst buster (but I didn't retest it to check; I use it still for candida; this time reinfection, it was useful, it tested on and off).
- grapefruit seed extract: tested as babs cyst buster too, but only in the GI tract (it doesn't cross b/b barrier); it never tests good for too long (few days only)
- gervao (rain-tree): gets babs' cysts: it tested very good as it gets so many other things, I took it for about 2 months (or more).
- neem tested good against babesia, but my body can't take it, so I didn't take it.
- cats claw + Japanese knotweed: always (I don't know if they get babs, but I was on these for the whole time).
------------------------- In June, when I was getting desperate I couldn't get rid of babesia with low artemisinin again, I decided to do a high dose treatment of artemisinin (1,000mg/ day) and high doses turmeric (6 teaspoons/ day) in combo for 3 days, repeated in two weeks interval to lower the number of critters. Turmeric hits hard on the stomach, so I did with full stomach, while artemisinin I used with empty stomach.
First high dose treatment I herxed immensely. I felt very toxic. Second treatment, I almost didn't herx, nor felt ANY toxicity in 90% of the time (except for the first dose of 400mg artemisinin in the first day, then NOTHING in the following 2 days).
I also took pyrogenum 200K, as it tested good to get babs and babs' cysts (3 globules/ day for a week).
I thought I was rid of it, but symptoms came back fast after stopping artemisinin. In about 2 days, I felt fatigue, chills, brain fog, etc. Exactly like my first babesial infection. Babesia kept coming back and back again.
------------- About July: - amargo (rain-tree): gets babesia (it doesn't cross b/b barrier, it seems, only gets babs in the GI tract and in blood). [watch out for side effects though, better to test for each organ and use it only temporarily] It's used for malaria. It is to be used very short term (less than artemisinin). I took 2 "00" capsules if I remember well, but it's too strong.
- gervao + phellodendron continued
- turmeric lower doses
- pc-noni: 15 drops or so
- KMT program 2 on and off ----------------------------
The babesial load was much smaller by the end of July, but still there. That's when I discovered CARDAMON by chance. That was what was missing to get the rest of cysts this time.
I introduced cardamon seeds in powder (mixed in my tea, 2-3 times a day), and I think my babesia hated it. I felt my brain clearing while still having my cup of tea with cardamon.
Then few days on cardamom + pc-noni, I finally got an EM rash, which meant, borrelia surfacing again. Exactly like with my first babesial infection. Once I got it down (that time, only with PC-Noni), borrelia surfaced. This time, I needed the PC-Noni and the cardamon to get it down.
------------- So AFTER the aggressive treatments above, my cyst treatment was:
- lonicerae caulis decoction: test good against babs and bart (I took it short term, about a week or so; it can be mixed with gardenia + phellodendron decoction).
- Allicin from Wonderlabs (2), milder than frozen garlic;
- cardamon in powder in my tea (2-3 times a day),
- ledum homeopathic 200K once every 3 days or so, 3-4 globules each time (tests against babs and borrelia) (it must have a 10 minute interval from everything else, before and after intake).
- Pc-Noni was testing at that time at about 15-35 drops a day (I put in a bottle and drank separately from cats claw; 2 times a day).
This is what did the trick this time. I'm not treating babesia since about middle of August.
But I know it can still be hiding as ALL of my other coinfections (and inclusive borrelia).
This IS a messy and long report! BAbesia was the most difficult coinfection for me to get rid of this time. I'm still crossing fingers for it not to come back as I HATE babesia!
Selma
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Selma,
Thank you for sharing this. I always enjoy your posts here and on the Buhner group.
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Thanks for posting this Selma.
For those who cannot get prescribed Mepron, alternatives like this are just what we need to know about.
- JB
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Welcome!
Johnny, I don't think Mepron gets cysts, just see what people here have been taking in combo and many still relapse for months/ years.
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Wow, that is an impressive, detailed, and complicated list and procedure.
About the frozen garlic:
Is this product a supplement, or something you are finding on a grocery store shelf? What was the reason for this form? (I think I remember you were having problems finding another form?).
This may be effective for those who have first knocked it down, but are having residual symptoms.
I think I would dowse, and use kinesiology for confirmation. I do remember testing "no" for both tumeric and pc-noni, but in your method, they are used in comination, so that may make it different.
Please keep us updated on your lack of symptoms!
Danke!
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Thanks for posting this hardy. Babs seems to be the toughest one for sure. I have had enough conventional treatment to kill a horse, and always relapse. Am now going Buhners route, but haven;t added the babs stuff in yet.
Although I have not had any experienct w/ the ART testing, I'm at the point that I know what HASN'T worked, lol, so open to most anything.
Thanks for such detail in your treatment plan, a help for those of us who do not really understand the homeo end.
I am going to print it out & save it for awhile & see if I relapse yet again after Buhner's protacol. Did you at anypoint in your babs TX do the cryptolepsis? Just curious.
Hope it's gone for good for you! (and hope I'm soon to follow!) (((hug)))
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Selma, I've bookmarked this. That is so many different herbs, which is not really a problem, if one just buys them all and muscle tests them daily, I guess. I'm curious about phellodendron--what is that and why did you choose it?
When you say borrelia resurfaces after babesia is down, do you think that means your body is starting to fight borrelia, or does it mean borrelia stays latent while babesia is active? Just wondering what you think about this.
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NORTHSTAR: yes,it was complicated. I was on more than 40 different stuff a day (some taken 3 times a day or more) for about 2 months to get my acute infection down.
Herbs work well but mostly in combination (in my experience). Buhner thinks that too.
My lyme doctor said he had never seen another chronic lyme patient got well so fast after a strong reinfection. He was very surprised when he saw me last time. He thought he was going to find me in rags!
The only frozen garlic suppl I know is from Biopure/ INK (here in Germany). I don't know if there are others. I tried many garlic supplements, but that's the one that is certainly the strongest. Much stronger than pure garlic.
I think one would need to ingest so much garlic to get the effect of one frozen garlic capsule that we never really reach the amount, got it?
But garlic is not systemic (it doesn't reach everywhere). Buhner spoke about that. And in my kinesiological tests, it doesn't cross the b/b barrier. But it is still an excellent killer in the GI tract. The GI tract is one of the most infected places with babesia, in both my experiences with babesia.
But remember that I was infected in Europe, so my strain is probably the Bab. divergens (if my memory is good), different from the US strains (microti + others). It's worse than microti.
Try cardamon, it's such a common spice! Curcuma/ tumeric is harder on the stomach.
Good luck!
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GARDENL, welcome! No I haven't tried cryptolepsis, it was on my list of next thing to buy in case I continued relapsing. If I get babs back, I think I'll give it a try, although it's a difficult herb to find.
But as it can only be taken short term (very strong), I suspect it gets only the active form of babesia (?)
I NEVER so far found anything that gets BOTH the active form of babesia AND cysts at the same time (except for homeopathy, because it works different than herbs/ medicine).
Neither for babs, or for borrelia. Never anything tested good for both borrelia cysts AND active form. It's either one OR another.
So, I'm just deducing that if cryptolepsis hits well babesia, it will be only in one form, which I suppose, it's the active form. You'll still need something for cysts. This is just a guess though!
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OXYGENBABE, phellodendron is one of the herbs used by Chinese practioners to fight lyme disease.
Once I bought many of these lyme herbs from a Chinese shop at once, as they are unexpensive, and kept them in my herb closet. I kept taking them to my practioners to test before I learned to test myself. There are still many others to fight lyme.
Google 'phellodendron' and 'lyme', if you don't find anything, I can try to look into my archives! Just tell me.
I only recently discovered that what gives the yellow color to the decoction of phellodendron is berberine. Berberine is an antimicrobial chemical, lots of research on it. I was already taking phellodendron for a while when I read about that!!
It's a pretty easy herb, like gardenia and gervao, I mean, they didn't cause me any discomfort, side effects, nothing.
I owe this trio - gervao + gardenia + phellodendron - about 40-50% of my recovery from reinfection (mycoplasma, babesia, bartonella, candida, ehrlichia and borrelia). They were wonderful.
If you try it, please let me know. I'm sure 1stChinese shop have all.
As for borrelia resurfacing, I don't know why, but I have been having such experiences one after another in this recent reinfection. I knock one pathogen, I get new set of symptoms as other back stage pathogens come to front stage.
Two things happen once a pathogen is erradicated (or gone into backstage): my protocol changes very much from a day to another (things start to test 'no' and I get a need to change herbs) and new set of symptoms emerge. It's not a relapse, it's just new ecossystem balance.
Babesia was one of the last coinfections to have gone. Now I think I even don't have borrelia anymore (still early to know though), but I'm not taking anything that tests against borrelia nor borrelia cysts. I'm still in fight with different forms of candida (in my blood and in a tooth).
But who knows, when all candida are down, I'm still knocking on wood NOT to get borrelia or his friends back as they certainly can hide and wait better days to come out.
I'm AMAZED to see how these infectious agents live in symbiosis, trying to knock our immune system the best they can. They live pretty well inside the tummy of a tick, and when they infect us, they are still friends!!
Selma
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Selma I think you are right "live well in the stomach of the tick." Maybe they signal each other, Hey we're all doin' okay, keep on keepin' on. Or 'hey I'm gettin' whacked here, you'd better start multiplying to keep the host defense down'.
I'll google "1st chinese".
I am waiting for someone to send me her fresh/dried artemesia annua, which I really want to take! I tried to grow it on my sill to no avail (it got sick, it needs real sun).
I also had a feeling last night I should take "crysanthemum." I have to look that up. I'm having a lot of sinus inflammation and it seemed to indicate it was for that. Plus "usnea"--I have it, in tincture, but I'm not sure I want that, but it keeps popping into my mind as if saying, "I want to help" (with the sinus/immune system).
Your story is so great. I am so impressed. Keep us posted.
Edit: Just googled crysanthemum and happened upon a video of two chinese herbalists in Chinatown in NY! Chrsyanthemum is for inflammation. So there you are. I know the main problem is inflammation because of low-grade infection with common fungus or strep or staph. It almost went away some months ago when I began taking a very expensive supplement called comitras. Then I got a sort of mild flu and it came back. I hate it because the pressure of the sinus affects my ears, and my balance.
Amidst all the strangeness of my life (which is surpassingly odd with seeming attacks on me, I swear to god, energetically--sort of like you getting bit by a tick AGAIN!), these things come to me. I'll track down these herbalists, I'm sure they'll have the other ones you mentioned.
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Oxygenbabe, I hope your sinus problem will get better. I never got much problems there, so I can't help with plants!
Yes, I do believe they do have some kind of communication, these critters. I do feel they don't like when a critter is down (a 'friend') as this is bad news to the ones that remain. Each friend contributes to put our immune system down in their way, and there's certainly space for all inside us!
So when a friend dies, another comes up like in 'rage', if I can describe like that. A bit like when they just infect us, they are reproducing very fast and trying to grab any part of our bodies to survive and reproduce.
In my interpretation, it doesn't mean they are stronger. They are desperate!!!
This happened with all my tick-born infections, when one died/ went to backstage, the other flared. But not in a clear pattern with the other infections (like parasites, brain viruses, non tick born candida, etc). Only with tick born pathogens.
That's why I believe they're very much like friends and that they do communicate with chemical messages!
The skin fungi/ candida (pre-lyme) flared in different types of the treatment, but I believe it's more related to how toxic I am than to only ecossystem. As for the tick born pathogens, these are really working like clockwork!! I start to think they really fear us when one friend dies.
You amaze me with your intuitions!! I'm sure you are the type of person that can communicate with plants like Buhner does!
The only problem with plants is that we need combos in my opinion.
Artemisia annua also kills borrelia in my experience. It is not a solo treatment for babesia (too weak). Its decoction doesn't test good to be taken with other stuff (I left an interval, if I remember well, about 30 minutes to take any other plant).
apart from gervao / cats claw (tropical plants), I guess most other plants can be find in Chinese shops!
I'll keep you guys updated in case I get a relapse. For the moment, I'm so full of energy, a very different type of energy than merely physical (much in the deeper levels, in the level of initiative, if I can explain like that).
TAke care! Selma
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Selma, I sometimes believe some of us are at a vortex of being challenged--by the "dark" whatever that might be, the negative--and either we succumb to it or we use our own light to transform that energy into more light. Sounds like you've done that. Don't think I have, it seems to be a deeper struggle for me. I have really enjoyed your story and hope you stick around.
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Interesting post. Thanks for sharing.
Where do you buy PC-noni?
Thanks, CherylSue
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Oxygenbabe, it takes lots of herbs to nail these critters. I guess you're on the right track too!
SUE: PC-Noni is from Biopure (biopureous.com, if I'm not mistaken). I only needed little of it, few drops a day but I had heard that some people need much more (in dropperfuls).
I also heard another person on another Noni tincture having good results (but I didn't try it myself).
The Noni tincture has to be taken away from cats claw / samento (about minimum 30 minutes, if I remember well). Noni works better with electrolytes (see Gigi's posts). I added Himalayan salt instead as the local dr. K's institute is not selling electrolytes anymore.
Gervao (rain-tree brand) was more multifactorial (got babs' cysts and many other tick born coinfections), so that's possibly the reason I didn't need much of PC-Noni either.
I hope this helps! Selma
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Does anyone know how pc noni would kill babesia? I thought it was a fruit.
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I think Gigi posted here once that a doctor or researcher decided to look into the microscope what happened when noni tincture gets in contact with infected cells.
If my memory is good, I think she said it makes the cysts or critters get out from the cells? And probably get caught by the other killing agents?
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Interesting. Certain polysaccharides--the critters will bind to them instead of the receptors on our cells. This does not kill them, but it sort of inactivates them.
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Hi everybody, I just want to add an update here. Something must be going on as I'm having problems with my teeth (now it's the 3rd teeth with problem).
My blood candida/ skin candida is not 'testing'. I wonder if I'm done with it (or next to). This was my most strong chronic infection until now (more than lyme). This means a drastic change in my milieu/ ecossystem.
In the last weeks, I was treating a tooth with candida. From painless (but with chronic pulpitis, as my doctor said), it started to be painful when I started treating it. After the first KMT session, bang, pain started! Then I continued to attack it, it has been painful for days and days. But my tests say the fungi load (it was fungi!) is getting lower.
In the last 2 days, I don't find the infection there anymore, and the pain is gone. But the tooth beside it, started to be painful. The tests say, it's a bactery, but I didn't find any lyme related bactery there. I treated only 2 days, today, the pain is gone and so is the 'infection' in my tests.
Yesterday, I had strong pain in a third tooth!! Very strong pain. I started to wonder what's going on. I tested, again, ANOTHER pathogen (this time, KMT program 3 tests, a gastro intestinal pathogen!!). Well, it's not the first time I find GI pathogens in my teeth (very often I did). Bang, I attack it, fortunately the pain is bearable today.
I'm testing good for propolis now (it's a LONG time I don't test for it), rubbing all sorts of oils around the root of teeth etc.
I'm just wondering what it means. I don't think it's a lyme relapse as no tick born pathogen tests. I wonder if my immune system is not changing again to attack things that were dormant??
Maybe because lyme is gone, and my body was so busy with the lousy TB pathogens, Well..
I gotta go, I'll write later
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My.. I just decided to 'test' all my roots of teeth to see what comes up.
I got quite a few teeth with infections (sort of small infections, without symptoms). It's like my teeth being a sort of haven for certain critters ?(mine are mostly GI critters and candida)
I probably still have lots of mercury there, that's why candida loves there... As I told before, these infections are symptomless.
My third tooth with pain is now under control, but still a bit painful. The first two show no infection for the moment, totally symptomless now.
But I still got about 4 others with critters??!! All symptomless?! I'm pretty sure I'll get pains there once I start the KMT sessions and rubbing certain oils (depending on what tests).
It's like the chronic infections (symptoless) get 'activated' again when I attack these (pain starts) ? Does this make sense?
Has anyone got similar experiences??
Oh, oh... Lyme seems to have gone so far, as well as other tick born co-infections. I wonder what will happen when my teeth get better... Praying for not having TBD back.
I start to wonder why some of my teeth started now being symptomatic, if it's not following the logic of tick born infections, one goes to backstage, the other comes to frong stage?
Now that my body is not busy with TB Diseases, it is going after other pathogens??
Does this make sense?
Eleutherococcus is testing as helping to awaken my immune system very well. A big help, it is the only herb that tested 'excellent' so far. I wonder if it is not one of the reasons of my body chasing the infections in my teeth roots...
I'll keep you all updated. Apart from these teeth problems, life is very good!
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Just bumping for people who kept asking me my babesia herbs.
I'm entering my 3rd month symptom-free. I'm off most herbs, except for astragalus and propolis.
I do believe cardamon + Noni tincture did a good job on the babesia as so far, no relapse. I was relapsing very fast every time I stopped killing babesia.
Selma
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Hi all , Cryptolepsis did the trick for my Babesia. No relapse. I am still doing Buhner core protocal for Lyme and Aug added MMS which is really helping big time. I am not seeing any other lymies say this yet about the MMS. Not sure what its killing or oxidizing. Candida, heavy metals or other critters. I am so greatful. Its been a long hard 26 yr journey.
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I think hardynaka took some of the herbs in the above ingredients. Would this blend be a good "one-stop" product?
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JYC, great news!!!! Happy for you. And great to see cryptolepsis worked. How did you take it? I know it needs pulsing. did you take it many times?
Do you think MMS is still getting babesia's cysts?
Were you symptomless from babesia BEFORE you started MMS?
Good continuation on healing!
SPOOKYDEW: I posted that before, it's self muscle test, kinesiology, supported by my lyme doctor and a naturopath that do ART.
I posted a site before, explaining how to learn by yourself. So far, no one else seemed to have mastered the techique though...
I don't do ART, I merely do muscle tests (but I get checked by these practioners). I'm learning more with DVDs and booklets from dr. K's courses, but I don't have all stuff to do ART (missing polarity filter, for example).
YANIV:
I don't know most of the herbs... And their names are not complete anyway (which polygonum, for example?).
I would first muscle test these, one by one. I never took a multi-herb product for fear of bad reaction to single components.
If you react badly, you'll never know from what. If you improve, too, how to pinpoint and choose what worked and take more of it?
In my experience, RIGHT DOSAGE is essential for improvement, so I can't see how to tune dosages with multiherbal products.
Having said that, there were some people here that improved CONSIDERABLY with Seven Forest products or other mixed stuff. So, who knows this could be still good for you!!?
Selma
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Thank for for sharing what has helped you Selma. Posts: 6638 | From Michigan | Registered: Jun 2001
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Just wanted to bump this. I think it has some very helpful babs info. I've been PM'ing with Brussels, who used to be "hardynaka" (SN change).
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Yes, it's me, but I forgot my password, so started another screen name.
Wow, this long ago, but the herbs did the job as I never got babesia symptoms back since then.
The only thing I still take today from this long list of babesial herbs is cardamon in powder. I find cardamon a gift of nature for lyme disease.
Cheap, helps with cleansing the lymph (my brain always feel clear after it), it warms the body, and, I believe, helped me eliminate the rest of babesia AND candida.
It is used as food in India, very often, so not a dangerous thing to add daily on teas or coffee or anything else you find possible (cookies, cakes, yoghurt....).
This babesia fight documented here was my toughest fight of all during lyme disease, because of reinfection.
Reinfection on top of chronic lyme was not fun. I mean, it was hard to find which combinations would kill babesia as I kept relapsing.
Without these energetic tests, I wonder how long it would have taken me to get rid of these babesial infections, specially the second one...
At the time I fought this, crypto was new or I didn't know much about it. If I get infected again, I guess I would try crypto today, because of positive reports on it. I believe it could shorten the above list of herbs.
Good luck for all who fight babesia.
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That is very interesting but I did not know that protozoa formed cysts like spirrochetes do. Are you sure that is correct?
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neffer, I don't think the Babesia do form cysts, but I think Brussels point could be translated slightly with a different meaning but similar implications: if there are in fact tissue babesia dwelling in the brain in addition to blood babesia (someone recently posted a bunch of abstracts about how babesia can live in brain tissue), then perhaps different herbs/drugs are better for getting the "shallow" or blood parasites, and other substances are better for getting the deeper organisms?
This wouldn't exactly be "cysts," but the observations and treatment actions may behave similarly. Just a theory.
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Life cycle of protozoa (wikipedia)
Some protozoa have life stages alternating between proliferative stages (e.g., trophozoites) and dormant cysts.
As cysts, protozoa can survive harsh conditions, such as exposure to extreme temperatures or harmful chemicals, or long periods without access to nutrients, water, or oxygen for a period of time.
Being a cyst enables parasitic species to survive outside of a host, and allows their transmission from one host to another. When protozoa are in the form of trophozoites (Greek, tropho = to nourish), they actively feed.
The conversion of a trophozoite to cyst form is known as encystation, while the process of transforming back into a trophozoite is known as excystation.
Protozoa can reproduce by binary fission or multiple fission. Some protozoa reproduce sexually, some asexually, while some use a combination, (e.g., Coccidia). An individual protozoon is hermaphroditic.
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Oh, I'm just bumping up for someone who asked me about babesia.
As for cysts, I don't know, but I do feel babesia has dormant forms that DON'T REACT to active infection treatments. When I tested energetically, I called them 'cysts', like some protozoans (malaria) form, and my 'body' understood it.
Active babesia and symptoms can go down with some treatments, but once you stop treatment, symptoms come back.
In my experience (twice reinfected with babesia!), if you don't add something do deal with this 'intermediate' phase of infection (when all symptoms are down, but the protozoan is waiting to become active), you won't get rid of babesia. Keeping on the same herbs won't help, as I said above, they need different treatments, a bit like borrelia and cysts.
If I remember well, my first babesia infection went fully dormant when I added Noni tincture from dr. K. The second time, Noni only didn't help, and I found other things, including cardamon in powder.
This is long ago, many years ago, since then my babesia didn't come back, at least not symptomatic.
This treatment I did was before Buhner proposed cryptolepsis (which he did AFTER the publication of his book, as his suggested protocol in the book didn't work). So I didn't try crypto, but I heard later it is also good.
Amargo is a equatorial herb used against malaria. Very strong, and unexpensive.
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Babesia life cycle is divided in 3 phases! They are called sporogony, merogony and gametogony.
I'm copy pasting below: ------------------------ Babesia exhibits a typical apicomplexan life cycle characterized by merogony, gametogony, and sporogony (Figure). The infection is acquired by the vertebrate host when sporozoites (Sp) are transferred during tick feeding.
The sporozoites invade erythrocytes utilizing a mechanism of invasion that is similar to other Apicomplexa. (See detailed discussion on host cell invasion by malaria parasite.)
In contrast to Plasmodium, the parasitophorous vacuolar membrane (PVM) disintegrates after invasion and the parasite is in direct contact with the host erythrocyte cytoplasm.
The trophozoites (Tr) divide by binary fission and produce merozoites (Mz), which infected additional erythrocytes and reinitiate the replicative cycle. In some species, a tetrad, referred to as a Maltese cross, is occasionally observed.
Some of the trophozoites will develop into gametocytes (Gm), or gamonts, which are responsible for initiating the infection in the tick vector.
The gametocytes undergo morphological changes within the tick's gut and develop into ray bodies (Rb; aka Strahlenk�rper).
Two ray bodies (i.e., gametes) will fuse to form a zygote (Zg) which then develops into a kinete (Ki). The kinete penetrates the peritrophic membrane and intestinal epithelium to gain access to the hemolymph.
Large Babesia, such a B. divergens and B. canis, are capable of invading various organs and undergoing further replication. Most notable is the invasion of the ovaries and eggs leading to a transovarial transmission to the tick's offspring.
Sporogony is initiated when kinetes invade the salivary glands. The parasite expands and fills a hypertrophied host cell and develops into a multinucleated sporoblast (Sb; aka sporont).
Mature sporozoites, possessing apical organelles, will bud from this undifferentiated sporoblast when the tick feeds again on a new host. Five-ten thousand sporozoites can be produced by a single sporoblast.
The sporozoites will then be injected into the host with the saliva, thus completing the life cycle.
About babesia dormant disease in dogs
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Pulling this up again for those looking into babesia alternatives...
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Cardamon information
This was posted long ago by CALIFORNIA lyme, I just copy pasted here.
*************************************************1: J Ethnopharmacol. 2007 Oct 22
Gut modulatory, blood pressure lowering, diuretic and sedative activities of cardamom.
Gilani AH, Jabeen Q, Khan AU, Shah AJ. Natural Product Research Division, Department of Biological and Biomedical Sciences, Aga Khan University, Karachi 74800, Pakistan.
ETHNOPHARMACOLOGICAL RELEVANCE: Cardamom (Elettaria cardamomum) is traditionally used in various gastrointestinal, cardiovascular and neuronal disorders.
AIM OF THE STUDY: To rationalize cardamom use in constipation, colic, diarrhea, hypertension and as diuretic.
MATERIALS AND METHODS: Cardamom crude extract (Ec.Cr) was studied using in vitro and in vivo techniques.
RESULTS: Ec.Cr caused atropine-sensitive stimulatory effect in isolated guinea-pig ileum at 3-10mg/ml. In rabbit jejunum preparations, Ec.Cr relaxed spontaneous and K(+) (80mM)-induced contractions as well as shifted Ca(++) curves to right, like verapamil. Ec.Cr (3-100mg/kg) induced fall in the arterial blood pressure (BP) of anaesthetized rats, partially blocked in atropinized animals. In endothelium-intact rat aorta, Ec.Cr relaxed phenylephrine (1muM)-induced contractions, partially antagonized by atropine and also inhibited K(+) (80mM) contractions.
In guinea-pig atria, Ec.Cr exhibited a cardio-depressant effect.
Ec.Cr (1-10mg/kg) produced diuresis in rats, accompanied by a saluretic effect. It enhanced pentobarbital-induced sleeping time in mice. Bio-assay directed fractionation revealed the separation of spasmogenic and spasmolytic components in the aqueous and organic fractions respectively.
CONCLUSION: These results indicate that cardamom exhibits gut excitatory and inhibitory effects mediated through cholinergic and Ca(++) antagonist mechanisms respectively and lowers BP via combination of both pathways. The diuretic and sedative effects may offer added value in its use in hypertension and epilepsy.
PMID: 18037596
Antimicrobial activity of Elettaria cardamomum: Toxicity, biochemical and histological studies
Jazila El Maltia, , , Driss Mountassifb and Hamid Amaroucha, aLaboratoire de Microbiologie, Pharmacologie, Biotechnologie et Environnement, Universit� Hassan II - A�n Chock, Facult� des Sciences, km 8 route d'El Jadida BP, 5366 Casablanca, Morocco bLaboratoire de Biochimie et Biologie Mol�culaire, Universit� Hassan II - A�n Chock, Facult� des Sciences, km 8 route d'El Jadida BP. 5366, Casablanca, Morocco Received 8 December 2006; revised 19 February 2007; accepted 21 February 2007. Available online 12 March 2007.
Abstract Elettaria cardamomum is one of the most broadly used spices in Moroccan gastronomy. Its antimicrobial activity against both Gram-positive and Gram-negative bacterial species was demonstrated. Likewise, its toxicity was investigated on Swiss albinos mice. Daily, mice were treated orally with 0.003 and 0.3 mg during 7 days. Plasmatic markers and antioxidant defence systems were assessed and histological alterations were evaluated. A significant increase in creatine phosphokinase level was observed.
The microscopic evaluation shows that E. cardamomum induce morphological perturbation in mice's heart.
The results show also an inhibitory effect of glyceraldehyde 3-phosphate dehydrogenase and an important increase in the level of thiobarbituric acid reactive substances, succinate dehydrogenase and catalase activities.
Results show that E. cardamomum induces toxicity at 0.3 mg/g mouse and affect energy metabolism and oxidative stress.
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Bump... good info.
Another one to look into is corriander. I haven't tried it but there was a good NY Times article I posted here a few weeks ago about it.
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thanks for the info, just wanted to have this post in my inbox incase I need it later
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Healing in SantaCruz : How much cryptolepsis did you take ? Hoow long did you take it before getting better?
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I have started cryptolepsis 30 drops +PC Noni 12 drops this week. Immediately started night sweats and little bit "lost" feeling during the day. I've also gained 6 pounds in 2 weeks. I think that for me a weight gain is a Babesia symptom.
Also , have been adding Cardamon to my coffee and teas 2-3-times per day.
I'm planning to start gervao + gardenia + phellodendron decoction this WE.
I also Rife for Babesia.
I have been treating Babesia for 2 years with different combos of meds, but never could completely eradicate it. We'll see what these herbs will do.
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Pulling this up for kimmie
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Parasite: [0097] An organism that lives inside humans or other organisms acting as hosts (for the parasite). Parasites are dependent on their hosts for at least part of their life cycle. Parasites are harmful to humans because they consume needed food, eat away body tissues and cells, and eliminate toxic waste, which makes people sick. Examples of fungal pathogens for use in accordance with the disclosed methods and compositions include without limitation any one or more of (or any combination of) Malaria (Plasmodium falciparum, P. vivax, P. malariae), Schistosomes, Trypanosomes, Leishmania, Filarial nematodes, Trichomoniasis, Sarcosporidiasis, Taenia (T. saginata, T. solium), Leishmania, Toxoplasma gondii, Trichinelosis (Trichinella spiralis) or Coccidiosis (Eimeria species). MSM may be used to inhibit or prevent activity of one or more of the organisms listed above.
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organic sulfur has antimalarial properties and it is helping my babesia...this has to be ORGANIC sulfur in crystal form mixed with water and drinking throughout the day. Go slow as can cause detox and careful if you have CBS mutations
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I took MSM (which is organic sulphur) in full spoons, many times a day, during active babesiosis.
Without those many spoons a day, I would not be able to walk around, but had to be sofa bound.
MSM was very useful for me, many times, SPECIALLY during active babesiosis. It helped me mainly with binding herx toxins.
Nothing I had taken before helped as much. Since babesia went dormant, I stopped taking it, as I hate the bitter taste. I took then only chlorella and bear garlic instead.
The sulphur, in my opinion, will not kill babesia. It will only help with toxins, and help then your immune system.
But if you had a bad babesia like I had (twice reinfected), I don't think MSM will do the job alone. I mean, my immune system was a mess, it would never be able to get rid of that babesiosis, as I was in pretty bad shape...
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I agree Brussels Organic MSM probably isnt enough for severe babesia, but helpful along with other herbals It is amazing for detox too and something I will plan on staying on, even though the taste is awful
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MMS, the miracle mineral maybe could hit babesia? It is used for malaria...
I took artemisia anua in full herb powder, and also pulsed some artemisinin. But alone, they wouldn't clear babesia.
I think the noni tincture is sometimes helpful, and if my memory is good, cardamon too. Many Chinese herbs help kill babesia, in my opinion.
What is crazy with babesia, is that symptoms keep changing, and also the treatment (the more you hit it with different substances, the fastest it goes dormant).
Without binders, it is VERY HARD to eliminate babesia, because your whole body gets stuck with toxins. So the MSM is a great tool for helping your body fight babesia, but it is not a killer, exactly (in my opinion).
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Pulling this up for someone who's looking for babesia herbs.
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Pulling this up for lindadanis
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Today, I also got babesia nosodes, and would try them too, in case I get babesiosis again (by a new tick bite, for example).
I don't think babesia nosodes act as well as Borrelia nosodes, but it seems they still help.
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