Jordana
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Hometown Minnesota.
According to some tabloid I just read they say he had HIV which he stopped taking meds for. But the tabloid also said -- his iron count was low, his WBC was low, and his temperature was somewhere around 94 most of the time....add that to the need for double hip replacement...at 57...
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Hypothyroid would be another possibility. Did they determine the actual cause of death?
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Jordana
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No, they won't release it.
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- I had a friend who required both hips replaced by age 55 due to osteoarthritis. She was exceptionally healthy and active in all other ways before and after - until she got cancer later and could not survive that to live past 60.
"According to some tabloid I just read they say he had HIV " sigh. Very sad that a trashy tabloid would use that to try to sell papers.
The fact is that his medical history is not known (or approved to share) by anyone who is authorized to speak to press (or the tabloids) and the paper is wrong to publish that.
Besides, if true, so what? What if it were arthritis and he stopped taking meds - or for some other kind of infection? The tabloid is still attaching stigma to HIV as to make it some shocking news. I know tabloids will act as they do and I will always wish for a higher standard but they are not real journalists so I have to remember that.
In about four - six weeks, more medical tests will be released. I imagine they have much to consider. Until then, it's all speculation but it does come down to the fact that something went wrong and his body could not deal with it. So, we might take this time to learn more about his artistry, the soul he put into that.
I saw part one of the interview with Tavis Smiley that aired last Friday. I have Roku so can stream it anytime. Last night, PBS was to air part two. It was done 12 years ago (I think, as I was trying to do math in my head as to his age at that time and knew I was never that articulate at any age).
What an absolutely composed, intelligent and aware man I saw in that interview. Looking forward to part two. It may be available on line, at either PBS or Tavis Smiley's website.
He also had a song. Lovely.
As his work is mostly rather flashy and loud and I've never been drawn to that (or even able to try), I was glad the song they chose was a quiet song.
The good I hear he has done in his home town is admirable especially for much of it being anonymous in nature. -
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i heard it was percocet overdose.
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- So what if it were? But, until there is official word, such remarks are a way of shaming the dead. Where ever we "hear" these things, it's not from an official source at this point in time.
Still, if there were to be the case, he'd likely have been in some kind of pain and management was not adequate. That's the part to think about for anyone who has more pain than the methods they have to access can handle. -
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I thought it was overdose on Percocet - he wore heels much of the time, ruining his ankles, knees and hips, had a hip operation in 2010. Didn't want to stay longer at the hospital when I think he should have. Probably didn't take it seriously enough.
All this a guess until we get the autopsy report...
The city went crazy here - City Hall lit up in purple, all-nite dance parties and lots of Purple Rain singing tributes...
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- COUNTERFEIT Pharmaceutical, containing substance unknown to him
This thread has been on my mind and I wanted to sort of set the record straight on the accidental death of Prince due primarily to these circumstances (according to by those quoted in body of article):
1. " . . . inadequate care he received in Illinois the previous week. . . . "
2. ". . . Prince had likely overdosed [on April 15] on what he believed to be prescription opioids like Vicodin, but were actually black market versions containing the much more powerful synthetic opioid fentanyl. . . . "
3. ". . . Walgreens Co., alleging that pharmacists at two of its Minnesota branches dispensed "prescription medications not valid for a legitimate medical purpose. . . ."
Prince's Family Files Wrongful Death Suit Against Hospital, Pharmacy Chain
By Scott Neuman - NPR - April 24, 2018
Prince's heirs have filed a wrongful death suit against the drugstore chain Walgreens and an Illinois hospital where the singer was treated, then released, the week before his fatal overdose in 2016.
Minnesota Public Radio's Matt Sepic reports that attorneys representing Prince's estate allege that Trinity Medical Center, in Moline, Ill., where Prince's plane made an emergency landing on April 15, 2016, failed to appropriately diagnose and treat his overdose.
The singer was given two doses of Naloxone, a drug designed to reverse the effects of an opioid overdose.
Prince died on April 21 at age 57. He was found unresponsive at his home in the Minneapolis suburb of Chanhassen. The suit alleges his death was a direct result of the inadequate care he received in Illinois the previous week.
On Thursday, Carver County Attorney Mark Metz said that the two-year investigation into Prince's death concluded that he died after taking a counterfeit Vicodin pill laced with the powerful and dangerous opioid fentanyl.
However, Metz said, investigators were unable to find out how Prince obtained the pills, so there was no evidence to charge anyone.
The lawsuit, filed in Chicago's Cook County, also names Walgreens Co., alleging that pharmacists at two of its Minnesota branches dispensed "prescription medications not valid for a legitimate medical purpose."
Both Walgreens and the hospital parent company declined to comment.
As The New York Times reports, "Based on documents related to the criminal investigation released on Friday,
prosecutors believe that Prince had likely overdosed [on April 15] on what he believed to be prescription opioids like Vicodin, but were actually black market versions containing the much more powerful synthetic opioid fentanyl.
Authorities determined that, without knowing, Prince most likely took a counterfeit drug containing fentanyl" that resulted in his fatal overdose six days later.
At the hospital, The Associated Press says, "Prince refused medical tests but was asked what drugs he took. Documents show a pill that he had with him, which was marked as Vicodin, was sent to the pharmacy for testing. A hospital pharmacist said it appeared to be Vicodin and returned it to Prince."
"We will have much to say when the time is right," attorney John Goetz, who filed the lawsuit on behalf of Prince's family, said in a statement, according to Rolling Stone. . . .
[article continues at link above].
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It's always good to see what the professional journalists at the hometown newspaper have to say. Main page:
StarTribune -
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- So, of course, it's best to not get any Rx just from others but directly from a pharmacy. Still, counterfeit Rx, and even counterfeit supplements are slipping through to even the pharmacies, etc.
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This article makes no sense to me. Fast acting short half life opiates would not kill you six days later. You would OD at peak plasma which would be something like 60-90 minutes or something for ingested substance. Instant for injected substances. Did I misread the article?
Also, Walgreens giving him two doses of Naloxone makes no sense. Especially the lawsuit claiming dispensed medication with no legitimate medical purpose. If he was OD'ing and the pharmacist was brave enough to go ahead and get him Naloxone, wouldn't that be a legitimate medical reason?
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- The pills were COUNTERFEIT, not what they were supposed to be at all. They were laced with FENTANYL.
It was the fentanyl that likely killed him. Even a very tiny trace of fentanyl can be deadly to even a very healthy person.
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2. ". . . Prince had likely overdosed [on April 15] on what he believed to be prescription opioids like Vicodin, but were actually black market versions containing the much more powerful synthetic opioid fentanyl. . . . " -
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- More about FENTANYL, a synthetic opioid of intense toxicity at a minute amount
The Hard-to-Trace Ingredient Behind Skyrocketing Cocaine Deaths
Often laced into popular illicit drugs, synthetic opioids are killing more people than heroin or OxyContin.
By Joseph Frankel - The Atlantic - May 2, 2018
Excerpts:
In the United States, more people are dying because of synthetic drugs like fentanyl than because of heroin or prescribed painkillers. . . .
. . . For example, in 2016, nearly a third of the people in the United States who were declared dead from overdosing on benzodiazepines—drugs like Xanax and valium—had also ingested fentanyl or something like it. . . .
. . . “Of the 42,000 overdose deaths reported in our country in 2016, about 19,000”—almost half—“were related to fentanyl,” Compton said in a video statement. . . .
. . . But the most, by far, were due to synthetic opioids like fentanyl.
The severity and speed of the problem raises the question: How did fentanyl come to take so many lives?
As a synthetic opioid, fentanyl and its variants fall into the same chemical class as heroin and prescription opioids like oxycontin. Originally intended to manage severe pain before and after surgery, fentanyl is much stronger than heroin.
As Compton tells me, “a teaspoon of fentanyl is about equivalent to a cup of a heroin.” More precisely, 3 milligrams of fentanyl is as potent as 30 milligrams of heroin.
Deaths due to fentanyl have not been as well documented . . . . [Full article at link above]
Changes in Synthetic Opioid Involvement in Drug Overdose Deaths in the United States, 2010-2016 -
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