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blackcat
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i just emailed the cdc and asked them in light of what occurred in ct. to remove a link to the 2006 lyme treatment guidelines from their web site. please do the same if you can.
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You may email, but they won't remove it.
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Thank you blackcat,

What an urgent thread you posted. Of Course! Will do.

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1.) www.cdc.gov

2.) In the box, "CDC for you," click "Media."

3.) You must go to the very, very bottom to click "Contact Us."

4.) Tell them to remove the IDSA guidelines in any way you want. Remember, the CDC is made-up of infectious disease doctors.

5.) To make it easy, once again, here is what Attorney General Blumenthal's office has on their website. This can very easily be copied into the CDC's "Contact Us" box after your comments.

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Connecticut Attorney General's Office


Press Release

Attorney General's Investigation Reveals Flawed Lyme Disease Guideline Process, IDSA Agrees To Reassess Guidelines, Install Independent Arbiter

May 1, 2008
Attorney General Richard Blumenthal today announced that his antitrust investigation has uncovered serious flaws in the Infectious Diseases Society of America's (IDSA) process for writing its 2006 Lyme disease guidelines and the IDSA has agreed to reassess them with the assistance of an outside arbiter.

The IDSA guidelines have sweeping and significant impacts on Lyme disease medical care. They are commonly applied by insurance companies in restricting coverage for long-term antibiotic treatment or other medical care and also strongly influence physician treatment decisions.

Insurance companies have denied coverage for long-term antibiotic treatment relying on these guidelines as justification. The guidelines are also widely cited for conclusions that chronic Lyme disease is nonexistent.

"This agreement vindicates my investigation -- finding undisclosed financial interests and forcing a reassessment of IDSA guidelines," Blumenthal said. "My office uncovered undisclosed financial interests held by several of the most powerful IDSA panelists. The IDSA's guideline panel improperly ignored or minimized consideration of alternative medical opinion and evidence regarding chronic Lyme disease, potentially raising serious questions about whether the recommendations reflected all relevant science.

"The IDSA's Lyme guideline process lacked important procedural safeguards requiring complete reevaluation of the 2006 Lyme disease guidelines -- in effect a comprehensive reassessment through a new panel. The new panel will accept and analyze all evidence, including divergent opinion. An independent neutral ombudsman -- expert in medical ethics and conflicts of interest, selected by both the IDSA and my office -- will assess the new panel for conflicts of interests and ensure its integrity."

Blumenthal's findings include the following:

* The IDSA failed to conduct a conflicts of interest review for any of the panelists prior to their appointment to the 2006 Lyme disease guideline panel;

* Subsequent disclosures demonstrate that several of the 2006 Lyme disease panelists had conflicts of interest;

* The IDSA failed to follow its own procedures for appointing the 2006 panel chairman and members, enabling the chairman, who held a bias regarding the existence of chronic Lyme, to handpick a likeminded panel without scrutiny by or formal approval of the IDSA's oversight committee;

* The IDSA's 2000 and 2006 Lyme disease panels refused to accept or meaningfully consider information regarding the existence of chronic Lyme disease, once removing a panelist from the 2000 panel who dissented from the group's position on chronic Lyme disease to achieve "consensus";

* The IDSA blocked appointment of scientists and physicians with divergent views on chronic Lyme who sought to serve on the 2006 guidelines panel by informing them that the panel was fully staffed, even though it was later expanded;

* The IDSA portrayed another medical association's Lyme disease guidelines as corroborating its own when it knew that the two panels shared several authors, including the chairmen of both groups, and were working on guidelines at the same time. In allowing its panelists to serve on both groups at the same time, IDSA violated its own conflicts of interest policy.

IDSA has reached an agreement with Blumenthal's office calling for creation of a review panel to thoroughly scrutinize the 2006 Lyme disease guidelines and update or revise them if necessary. The panel -- comprised of individuals without conflicts of interest -- will comprehensively review medical and scientific evidence and hold a scientific hearing to provide a forum for additional evidence. It will then determine whether each recommendation in the 2006 Lyme disease guidelines is justified by the evidence or needs revision or updating.

Blumenthal added, "The IDSA's 2006 Lyme disease guideline panel undercut its credibility by allowing individuals with financial interests -- in drug companies, Lyme disease diagnostic tests, patents and consulting arrangements with insurance companies -- to exclude divergent medical evidence and opinion. In today's healthcare system, clinical practice guidelines have tremendous influence on the marketing of medical services and products, insurance reimbursements and treatment decisions. As a result, medical societies that publish such guidelines have a legal and moral duty to use exacting safeguards and scientific standards.

"Our investigation was always about the IDSA's guidelines process -- not the science. IDSA should be recognized for its cooperation and agreement to address the serious concerns raised by my office. Our agreement with IDSA ensures that a new, conflicts-free panel will collect and review all pertinent information, reassess each recommendation and make necessary changes.

"This Action Plan -- incorporating a conflicts screen by an independent neutral expert and a public hearing to receive additional evidence -- can serve as a model for all medical organizations and societies that publish medical guidelines. This review should strengthen the public's confidence in such critical standards."

THE GUIDELINE REVIEW PROCESS

Under its agreement with the Attorney General's Office, the IDSA will create a review panel of eight to 12 members, none of whom served on the 2006 IDSA guideline panel. The IDSA must conduct an open application process and consider all applicants.

The agreement calls for the ombudsman selected by Blumenthal's office and the IDSA to ensure that the review panel and its chairperson are free of conflicts of interest.

Blumenthal and IDSA agreed to appoint Dr. Howard A. Brody as the ombudsman. Dr. Brody is a recognized expert and author on medical ethics and conflicts of interest and the director of the Institute for Medical Humanities at the University of Texas Medical Branch. Brody authored the book, "Hooked: Ethics, the Medical Profession and the Pharmaceutical Industry."

To assure that the review panel obtains divergent information, the panel will conduct an open scientific hearing at which it will hear scientific and medical presentations from interested parties. The agreement requires the hearing to be broadcast live to the public on the Internet via the IDSA's website. The Attorney General's Office, Dr. Brody and the review panel will together finalize the list of presenters at the hearing.

Once it has collected information from its review and open hearing, the panel will assess the information and determine whether the data and evidence supports each of the recommendations in the 2006 Lyme disease guidelines.

The panel will then vote on each recommendation in the IDSA's 2006 Lyme disease guidelines on whether it is supported by the scientific evidence. At least 75 percent of panel members must vote to sustain each recommendation or it will be revised.

Once the panel has acted on each recommendation, it will have three options: make no changes, modify the guidelines in part or replace them entirely.

The panel's final report will be published on the IDSA's website.

ADDITIONAL FINDINGS OF BLUMENTHAL'S INVESTIGATION

IDSA convened panels in 2000 and 2006 to research and publish guidelines for the diagnosis and treatment of Lyme disease. Blumenthal's office found that the IDSA disregarded a 2000 panel member who argued that chronic and persistent Lyme disease exists. The 2000 panel pressured the panelist to conform to the group consensus and removed him as an author when he refused.

IDSA sought to portray a second set of Lyme disease guidelines issued by the American Academy of Neurology (AAN) as independently corroborating its findings. In fact, IDSA knew that the two panels shared key members, including the respective panel chairmen and were working on both sets of guidelines a the same time -- a violation of IDSA's conflicts of interest policy.

The resulting IDSA and AAN guidelines not only reached the same conclusions regarding the non-existence of chronic Lyme disease, their reasoning at times used strikingly similar language. Both entities, for example, dubbed symptoms persisting after treatment "Post-Lyme Syndrome" and defined it the same way.

When IDSA learned of the improper links between its panel and the AAN's panel, instead of enforcing its conflict of interest policy, it aggressively sought the AAN's endorsement to "strengthen" its guidelines' impact. The AAN panel -- particularly members who also served on the IDSA panel -- worked equally hard to win AAN's backing of IDSA's conclusions.

The two entities sought to portray each other's guidelines as separate and independent when the facts call into question that contention.

The IDSA subsequently cited AAN's supposed independent corroboration of its findings as part of its attempts to defeat federal legislation to create a Lyme disease advisory committee and state legislation supporting antibiotic therapy for chronic Lyme disease.

In a step that the British Medical Journal deemed "unusual," the IDSA included in its Lyme guidelines a statement calling them "voluntary" with "the ultimate determination of their application to be made by the physician in light of each patient's individual circumstances." In fact, United Healthcare, Health Net, Blue Cross of California, Kaiser Foundation Health Plan and other insurers have used the guidelines as justification to deny reimbursement for long-term antibiotic treatment.

Blumenthal thanked members his office who worked on the investigation -- Assistant Attorney General Thomas Ryan, former Assistant Attorney General Steven Rutstein and Paralegal Lorraine Measer under the direction of Assistant Attorney General Michael Cole, Chief of the Attorney General's Antitrust Department.

To view the entire IDSA agreement, go to the Attorney General's website.

http://www.ct.gov/ag/cwp/view.asp?a=2795&q=414284

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Does Lymen work at the CDC?

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I think Lymen knows what and who we're up against and not happy about it. [Wink]

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Perhaps the weight of Lymen's illness weighs heavier, now that we have AG Blumenthals win, Under Our Skin has premiered and on Wednesday the Lyme protest will happen.

Maybe Lymen's been putting on a brave face and now that things are moving upward, he or she feels free to feel the depression of all they've been through.

Maybe? [Cool]

daise [Smile]

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Probably. Negativity and feeling helpless or pessimistic are common symptoms for all of us.

I believe in possibilities though, so even if I felt suicidal or miserable, there is always the possibility things could change, even if it's a far stretch -- that enables me to at least try.

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Lymen corresponded extensively with CDC in the past hoping to change things for Lyme patients.


Appointed IDSA member as a rule is on the top of CDC so CDC is basically an IDSA institution. If the top official doesn't follow IDSA recommendation the person is replaced with somebody who is obedient. It is that simple.

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Sorry Lymen you got so immersed in the political BS and the total lack of ethics. It is economics that drives these animals not science. But even they are on the puppeteers strings, because they are owned by insurance companies.

I so remember in "Sicko" the skit of Nixon signing on HMOs so his good buddy Kaiser could make lots of money.

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Morning Lymen,

You tried to help us. You tried hard. Having chronic Lyme sooner or later means accepting what is a horror in the U.S.--that profits are the god all too often. All must bow to the profit god? Are you feeling the horror of that in BC?

I'm a fool: I think it can change. It has to. But I'm a fool! I'm naive' as they come. Ask my friends. I was born a rebel and so were you. I got the nerve from my Dad.

Thank you, Lymen.

daise [Smile]

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I have been very sick for number of years, long time unable to work (over 5 years).



I am no longer in BC, but anyway situation in Canada is not good.

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Lymen,
Thank you for all the activism you clearly have done and continue to do. We all appreciate it.

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lymen, thank you for your professional scientist expertise; anything you can share with us OFF BOARD so we can make our stand better would be appreciated.


naturally, the bad guys, idsa/family/friends, SPY here daily for our latest strategies, so it's best to keep off the board !!

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so glad you joined her lymen!! best wishes on regaining your health back! [group hug] [kiss]

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Here's what I put in the CDC's little box at their website, along with AG Blumenthal's press release:

"Tear down your foul Lyme disease information which is hurting and disabling MILLIONS in the US--especially children--and print the truth. Do what you have been commissioned by Congress to do: ALERT THE PEOPLE, this time with the truth."


Here's the response:


Ms. (My name):

CDC staff have reviewed the agreement signed by IDSA and the Connecticut Attorney General's Office, as well as related press releases. Contrary to some news reports, the agreement does not call for revision of the IDSA guidelines, nor does it identify any inaccuracies or deficiencies in the guideline's conclusions or recommendations.

CDC believes that the IDSA Guidelines continue to represent the best available synthesis of the medical literature on diagnosis and treatment of Lyme disease. Barring any factual finding that the guidelines need significant revision, CDC will continue to provide a link to the IDSA
guidelines as a service to clinicians.

Thank you,

Bacterial Diseases Branch
Division of Vector-Borne Infectious Diseases
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
Fort Collins, CO

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NOTE: There is no official's name

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daise, thanks for posting your note and THEIR response!!


H O G W A S H O N A H U G E PORTION!~ [cussing] [cussing]
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daise, nice try though. i'm going to have to print the pdf file and study/highlite it too!

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OMG.

Those bleepity bleep bleeps. [Embarrassed]

Thank you so much Daise!!!

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Talk about stonewalling. Those creeps.
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We can email and call the heck out of them!

The CDC was commissioned by Congress to alert the people! (Have they done that? No.)

daise [Smile]

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Daise,

Thanks for letting us know what the CDC is responding regarding this issue. I still have such a hard time believing this could really be going on in our country. Heck, anywhere in this world.

I believed all the doctors for so long... long enough to get sicker and sicker, until I was given steroids to finish me off. If I hadn't lived this nightmare PERSONALLY, I don't know that I could have ever believed this total insanity.

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Hi Cathy,

Yes, when we're so ill and in a nightmare and when our brains don't work very well and our thinking is slow, we must also come to a realization: American medicine, for the most part, is pretty shabby.

We've been raised to trust our doctors. Yes, it's a shocker. A moment of truth.

daise [Smile]

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quote:
Originally posted by daise:


CDC believes that ... the best ... on diagnosis and treatment of Lyme disease.

Gee, at what point did the official role of the CDC change for it to be involved in the diagnosis and treatment of disease?

I realize they've had questionable links on their site for ages (inspiring many letter-writing campaigns) so that isn't actually a question. [Wink]

http://www.lymeinfo.net/cdccitations.html

The following guidelines also represent a synthesis of the medical literature:

http://www.guideline.gov/summary/summary.aspx?doc_id=4836&nbr=3481&string=lyme

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