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Posted by jcarlnew (Member # 45378) on :
 
Any novel ideas for additional treatment of shingles beyond Valtrex. My son has this. I did see a mention of Lauricidin
 
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
 
Take a look either at Dr Rawls - he speaks about herpes viruses treatments in a wider sense.

the book I'm reading now speaks too about EBV and other herpes family viruses and speaks in an unconventional way though... I mean, the treatments he proposes are rather unconventional.

This is the book: Liver Rescue, Anthony William

He says that herpes viruses feed on heavy metals, gluten, eggs, hormones such as adrenaline. His suggestions to kill herpes are stuff like garlic, licorice, even lettuce in great amounts, radish, etc.
 
Posted by steve1906 (Member # 16206) on :
 
Shingles isn't any fun, I've gotten them a number of times throughout the years----

Make SURE he doesn't scratch!!!!

Check these out> It has to run it's course.

Acetaminophen
Ibuprofen
Naproxen
terrasil

Steve
 
Posted by Rumigirl (Member # 15091) on :
 
Ack!! Shingles are awful. In addition to Valtrex, or similar, lysine in high doses 3 times/day on an empty stomach, and eating foods high in lysine and low in arginine.

I wouldn't try going without an antirviral, as it can be atrocious if not caught in time.
 
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
 
I do hope you mean that he is currently ON Valtrex?

Best of luck that it goes away soon.
 
Posted by jcarlnew (Member # 45378) on :
 
Yes he is on Valtrex. Thanks for suggestions
 
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
 
Great .. keep us posted on how he's doing.
 
Posted by kidsgotlyme (Member # 23691) on :
 
I'm sorry that your son is dealing with this. I have had to go on Valtrex daily at 1g per day just to try and head off another bout of shingles. I have a friend who is a doctor and she told me that she read an article that it's been proven that daily Gabapentin 100mg three times per day for six months to try and keep from developing post herpetic neuralgia.
 
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
 
Post herpetic neuralgia is like post lyme disease: it means ACTIVE herpes viruses in your nerves, the same way that post lyme disease is active Borrelia in your body.

Everything you hear 'post', with active inflammation, is not 'post' but very active chronic infections.

I'm doing the celery juice, daily, on empty stomach, and feel something like a deep energy coming back.

I'm also fighting skin infections that doctors call chilblains or pernio, and they do not think this is infectious. It's such a misunderstanding, because it flares after certain foods, it has cycles, it only comes when the immune system is weak...

you herx from killing it, you get skin fevers, the skin after opens and the color gets nasty. If this is not infectious, well... I wonder WHAT then is infectious.

I suspect these are also herpetic family infections of the small joints in fingers.
The fatigue is immense, when it's flaring.

I get 100% into the fight and flight mode, until the flare is gone, then they colonize one more part of your skin at every single flare (that is how they doom the immune system + get food through cytokine reactions + colonize further tissues).

I think I understand now what is this feeling fight and flight mode: pure emergency adrenaline flooding my whole body. Anthony explains how this type of adrenaline is like acid: it scorches the nerves, the organs, the tissues.


After that, all I can do is sleep. My nerves become super achy, all over the body, and extreme tension, even in the organs.

Only the violet ray calms those nerves again. But the fatigue is intense: I was having a hard time fighting that until the celery juice taken daily (I'm also on a very low meat, very low fat, full of fruits, leafy greens and salads diet).

I found that lemon juice on empty stomach then followed by celery juice gives me immense energy support.

since I started that, I haven't flared like hell. Only minor flares come.

But I also eliminated viruses and Strep food (according to him): I cut all eggs, most fats (they also feed all sorts of pathogens in the gut), most meats, corn, soja (both due to GMO contamination). Gluten and milk products (I'm free of them for quite some time).

So I'm eating loads of sweet fruits, honey, veggies, leafy greens, basically.

I think celery is like a full super electrolyte solution, that supports every cell of the body. Maybe that's where this kind of deep energy comes from.

And it is antibacterial, antiviral too, and it will support your colon until the end (as it is still active in the small and large intestine).
 
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
 
Once my skin flares, my gut flares too, I get immediate symptoms in the gut, loose stools, gas, diarrhea. I know the same critter living in my joints and skin is living also in the gut because of that reaction. It never fails.

According to Anthony William, these herpes family viruses live with us for a very very long time, hidden from the immune system, specially in the liver, but also practically anywhere:

thyroid specially,
but also all sexual organs (uterus and ovaries, and prostata),
the whole gut,
they love joints and skin,
they come down from the liver to the sciatic nerves (come and go as they please),
and their neurotoxins travel through the spinal fluid to the brain causing brain fog.

So to say, they are like Bb, they love conjunctive tissue, hide well, become inactive apparently (but they never truly are fully inactive).

they can infect any part of your body.

I'm taking again cats claw in low amounts (as an antiviral), and so is my daughter. It does make us feel a bit herxy, but we are taking zinc too, and that alone makes us herx.

Liposomal Vit C also deals with viruses rather well, but with such chronic infections, you need a multi-targeted approach, as with lyme.

I'm adding lysin to my liposomal Vit C, taking more of lemon balm, more star anise or licorice teas.

The most important part (according to Anthony) is to fight EBV or any of these herpes infections (cytomegaly, HHV6, Herpes zoster etc) IN THE LIVER.

It is spreading from there everywhere else.

Why? Because the liver is the organ responsible for cleaning the whole body. So that is where most toxins abound.

Pathogens (not only viruses, but also Strep and other bacteria) love to live in the liver, who is too busy trying to get away with so many man-made toxins, abx, drugs, pesticides, radioactive particles, mercury, aluminum, bad copper, excessive fats, alcohol, excessive meats, hormones from meats, neurotoxins from meats etc

These pathogens thrive on dirty environments (like Borrelia), so the liver is their favorite living place.

When your body is in good shape, well nourished, etc they will partially retreat from peripheral parts of the body, but they rarely get expelled from the liver, unless you actively treat your liver.
 


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