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Posts: 7 From: Weston, Ct USA Registered: Dec 2000
posted 08 January 2001 14:43
Type: ARTHRITIC, MUSCULAR,cns Co/infetiuos: dont know Antibiotics used/results: GOOD--Doxy 100mg 4x a day/20 weeks-good for muscle pains VERY GOOD--Zithromax 3x a day/3weeks-great for memory,joints and muscle VERDICT NOT IN--Amoxy-just started/9 days 200mg day- have not noticed any significant change
posted 08 January 2001 19:40
Hi,GRRRRR I was all ready to post to this thread and my internet service provider cut me off.Do they wan't a war with a pit bull??GGRRRRR!! Ok back to business.6 years of suffering,joint pain,nerve problems,herniated disk in back,suddenly improved with cipro and hot Nebraska 115 degree weather.Within 6 days I climbed the middle teton.Upon return to home I got bad again.I found out I had Lyme,I was put on suprax,I herxed terribly but my eyesight came back pronto.I was then put on three months rocephin,it about killed me,had gallbladder out,Improved greatly and climbed the grand teton.I then got worse due to lack of followup due to ins,company being LOOSERS.I got worse and began to expiriment with antibiotics,mixing them to try to get better enuf to climb again.I mixed doxycyclene and cipro,and got better and climbed Tewinot mnt.I was way underweight 130 lbs.I took the microsilver bullet collage 40,and gained 35 lbs.I was better for awhile and then crashed again,I couldent afford any more micro silver bullet.I managed a hike to the top of medicine Bow peak,while taking Doxy.No more mnts. for years,everything stoped working,last summer allmost totally lost my mind.A mix of doxy and tinidazole saved my life.200 MG Doxy 500Mg tin.I am now in a state of exhaustion,possibly a virus(cold or flu),I don't know!!!Work is a torture chamber.I am still taking the doxy.I may have a liver problem I do not know,and have no doc. I can go to,that would know.MADDOG
posted 09 January 2001 09:51
Arthritic, neuro, CNS, cardiac, visual, Bell's Palsy, electrical sensitivities, etc.
Am on a combination of Zithro, Flagyl & Doxy. Have tried to discontinue all three but relapse. Each one seems to work on certain areas (suspect co-infections).
Flagyl helped stop heart problems when Zithro & Doxy didn't. (Some problems still but not as much as before.)
Zithro seems to work on brain/face.
Doxy seemed to kill germs in gut better.
Felt more like a human being since maintaining the triple therapy and hope to continue well past symptoms to ensure death to the enemy.
posted 28 January 2001 14:14
....Just wanted to pull this up front to see if I could get a few more responses before I try to make some sense out of all this....Charlie
Posts: 351 From: Kenedy TX USA Registered: Jan 2001
posted 28 January 2001 14:54
quote:Originally posted by charlie: ....Just wanted to pull this up front to see if I could get a few more responses before I try to make some sense out of all this....Charlie
Type of Lyme - Late stage , 13 yrs. not treated for first three - Neuro , with skin rashes and burning, brain fog and at times severe muscle spasms lots of twitching
Co -infections -unknown at this time
ABX 1500 amoxy w/ probenecid good results right away. 1 yr of 1500/probenicid a second year of 3000 per day amoxy
I was asymptomatic pretty much for six years. Bad relapse last august. Now I am on 1.2 million units bicillin per week, three weeks now. Herxing all the way so far. Improvement is brain fog almost gone. So still waiting for other signs but am still herxing.
posted 28 January 2001 15:02
Type: You name it, I've had it!!Muscle /joint... heart... Nervous system... rashes swollen glands.... Co Infections: 2types of Ehrlichiosis tested neg to Babesiosis but have the symptoms Doxy 200 mg did wonders for me. Pain free within days. I am now on Doxy 400 mg and Biaxin combo and am feeling GREAT!! Lets do a supplement and anti viral poll next!!
posted 28 January 2001 18:31
Just about all involvement, getting massaive problems now due to steriods late stage/arthritis, neck/head pain, tinglies, bladder probs, exhausted, anxiety, heart probs, u guys know lol ANTIBIOTICS 3 weeks amox 500mg, massaive herx 2 mos later 3 weeks 1,000mg ceftin ALLERGIC weaned onto 500mg Zith for 6 mos, 4 mos major improvement stayed on 2 extra mos, never got rid of arthritis (now I am suffering BIGTIME) allergic to everything-anaphlaxis- worst of the symptoms back CO-Infections-never tested I am looking forward to an antibiotic I am not allergic to and must wait for further testing then be desensitized until then, I am 'coping' CEFTIN- wasnt worth much, but ipinefrine and sterods (cringe) helped get rid of the allergic response!
Posts: 174 From: arlington, va 22209 Registered: Jan 2001
posted 01 February 2001 12:26
Type of lyme: chronic, mostly neurological, some joint pain, headaches, gastrointestinal problems etc. Co-Infections:borderline for babesia Antibiotics used: Spectacular:havent found it yet! VeryGOOD:nope! Good: Biaxin,1000mgs. three months but my doctor took me off it just as i was feeling normal. Doxy 400 mgs approx 11 months, helped at first, but the seemed to plateau. Useful:Tetracycline. I fount this helpful b/c i started taking it before i was diagnosed and it was all i had so i was basically self medicating. It stopped the quick progression i had over three montyhs of more and worse symptoms. thats what made me really believe maybe i really did have lyme. Everything I have been on has imrpoved somewhat my symptoms, made them less but im still looking for something that will erradicate them, especially the neurological ones. I am also on Zoloft 75mgs since aug 2000 and i found that to be a life saver. really helped me and made me feel better, like a human being again.
posted 01 February 2001 14:58
Just got prescription of Flagyl to take with Biaxin and Plaquinil. I pray it works since my lower back pain is horrible. Form what I hear, there are severe Herx reactions from the Flagyl...Lord help us all
spectacular: Hopefully the new combo very good: Biaxin/Plaquinil usefull: Tetracyclene worhtless: Amoxicillin
posted 08 April 2001 18:41
Good poll. Mostly neuro sx's:headache, abn.speech 7 months to diagnosis. pos. babesia Doxy helped for 4wks then plateau. rocephin also helped alot to clear neuro sx's Just started mepron/zithr for babs. Overall about 75% better after 3 months total treatment.
posted 08 April 2001 18:51
Thanks for pulling this up. Lyme? Maybe some of the newcomers can respond or get something out of it. I haven't found much that correlates, and dosages would for sure be a factor, but it does show that one size doesn't fit all and the low doses of doxy theory as the preferred first line of treatment doesn't hold up at all under scrutiny. Charlie
posted 08 April 2001 23:27
Type: Lyme Disease...arthritic,mostly neurological problems Co-infection: Unknown at this time 04/07/00: Started low 200 or 250 mg of Doxycycline. Somewhat useful. approx. June 00 increased dose of Doxycycline to 600 mg. good improvement especially with vertigo. Started feeling much better, now I could actually walk around. A couple of months later leveled off on doxy. Started Amoxicillian 500mg x 4, 3 x a day (6 grams a day). Steady improvement from summer of 2000 to current on Amoxicillian. All though improvement continues it is now slow at times. When I come off the amox. symptoms start to creap in. Trouble getting a rid of some of the neurological symptoms. Stared Zithromax around the Fall of 2000. It help a litte, but my body couldn't handle it. To many trips to the bathroom. Just start Flaygel 500 mg. once a day with my amoxicillian. Flaygel is great! I have some really great days. I actually feel some what normal again. I still flare, and let me tell you the first flare up on Flaygel was intense. I have never felt such pain, but once I got through that I started feeling a lot better. My mind doesn't feel as foggy. Dont get me wrong, I am still flaring and I am a long way from being cured. I still have really bad days, but nothing like before. At least now I have some really great days. I pulse the Flaygel and the amox. I do four days on and three days off. Its working well for me, but I still have neurological damage. Some days I am fine others I can't walk, stay awake or balance. Over all though I am having many more good days.
Posts: 16145 From: Missouri Texan Registered: Feb 2001
posted 08 April 2001 23:32
Lyme: Arthritic, CNS, late-stage//40 yrs untreated Where am I?? Oh, yeah--coinfection/babesiosis not tested for Ehrlichiosis Everything has made me herx. So I guess all are good [??] Flagyl may have helped some clindamycin/quinine for babs--headaches are better have tried Zithromax, Tetracycline, amoxi I think that's all so far - Tinidazole next
Posts: 721 From: frederick,md,usa Registered: Jun 2001
posted 16 September 2001 11:59
TYPE..early disseminated lyme since may2001. with some cns crossovers..floaters,(almost gone) tingling in limbs, fog, heart palps (gone now) slurred speach (gone) COINFECTIONS.....none VERY GOOD..amoxicillian 3000mg..so far(only been on it for 2 weeks)this stuff is totally kicking some serious bug a$$..my floaters have stopped and i can tell there is a huge die off going on.. GOOD...doxy 500mg..but i always cheated and took 600mg..thats the kind of guy i am ..it started out working very well..and got rid of alot of my symptoms..then i seemed to plataeu on it .it was still working..but not as well after about 8 weeks..i sttill take both..am improving steadily
Posts: 1970 From: Charlotte, NC, US Registered: Sep 2001
posted 16 September 2001 22:37
Lots of late stage stage stuff and some chronic encephalapathy Symtoms: CNS, Encephalitis, Vertigo, Neuropathy, Hyperacusis, Arthritis, bladder prblms, occasional facial tingling, dyslexia-both when reading and talking fast, hoarseness, breathing problems, psychiatric (hallucination and nightmares), headaches, fluid in ears, comprehension problems, chronic fatigue, extreme blood pressure swings, sweats, insomnia, low to no fever, etc.
Very good: Biaxin XL 1gram once a day. Have been on it since July 10. Slow improvement but worth it. I started doing very gentle but tough walks b/c I was so weak for 15 min in early August. Today, I was so excited, I walked for an hour!!! Still have fatigue flare ups but I try to fight through them but they can seriously reduce my walking time and distance because I am so tired. Also, have been having some new neuropathy, facial tingling (last three days) and headaches. This makes me determined to definitely NOT avoid doing my walks! I'm calling Dr. tomorrow to be put on additional antibiotic so I don't lose the ground I've gained. Possibly, Plaquenil. Ok: Doxy. Was given this at 100mg twice a day for 7 days. Was starting to have some improvement but was pulled off because I was "cured!" One and a half week later I was late stage Lyme and found doctor to put me back on Doxy at 200mg twice a day. Stopped mid July because it ceased to be effective and I started going downhill. Worthless: Haven't tried anything else yet
By the way, Acetazolamide (a diuretic not an antibiotic) 250mg one tablet two days and one day off is excellent to ease the vertigo and brain fog since it reduces some swelling off the old brain. Headaches aren't gone but it has probably been one of the most helpful of the drugs I have taken!
posted 17 September 2001 12:39
Bitten: July 2000 Positive Western Blot, bullseye rash
symptoms: eye focus problems, difficulty walking, foot pain, spine involvement, tingling arms and hands, leg aches.
Co-infections: none
anbx: 1) 6 weeks of 200 mgs doxy -- no effect. 2) 8 months of 1 gram ceftin -- immediate improvement which leveled off. 3) 3 months of 400mgs doxy and 1 gram ceftin -- immediate improvement. Lots of herxing all over, especially in brain. 4) 1 week ago I boosted the ceftin to 1500 mgs a day and added 3 grams of tinidazole (no doxy)--More herxing especially in legs and eye sockets (my only remaining symptoms). I sense that what helps are: mega doses, and combining anbx. Proper protocol is helpful too.
Posts: 2641 From: Aptos, California Registered: Oct 2000
posted 17 September 2001 13:18
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Type of Lyme; arthritic, neuro, cns, YES YES YES!!! fatigue, nausea, eye blurriness, gallbladder pain, joint pain and then massive neuro stuff which KEPT PROGRESSINg through orals for almosta year of them, progressive weakness on left side until I couldnt' rise without assistance, balance problems, falling, chorea in my left hand, bouts of convulsive vomiting, IBS, MCS, breathing problems, Reynaudes, RLS, voice slurring, bedridden
co-infections Babesiosis & Ehrlichiosis
Antibiotics used/Results SPECTACULAR: IV Rocephin 9 months!!! VERY GOOD: Mepron!! Doxycyline!!! USEFUL: AFTER IV only - Suprax & Biaxin WORKED and PRE-Rocephin they did nothing- load was too high I guess- WORTHLESS: ****pre-Rocephin**** Suprax, Biaxin, Flagyl, AMoxi were worthless- AFTER the Suprax & Biaxin worked well at maintaining all my gains for a few months
posted 17 September 2001 13:29
symptoms: swolen lymph gland, EM, muscle ache, fever, severe continuous headache diagnosed after 1 week
Co-infections: Don't know SPECTACULAR: Whatever gets rid of the brainfog/hungoverness GOOD: First treatment Doxy 2 weeks. Cured all symptoms. But left brainfog/hungoverness USEFUL: WORTHLESS:
posted 17 September 2001 21:46
What's the difference between Doxycycline and Tetracycline? If it's worthless for one person, does that mean it will be worthless for me, or is it subjective?
posted 18 September 2001 00:52
...No it does not. treatment has to be tailored to the individual case. I started some trouble inadvertantly by saying that long term tetra didn't work for me. well, it doesn't work for everybody, or most, from my experience. It does for some. Doxy is derived from oxytetracycline(source: PDR). It doesn't work for everybody either, but at least you can take it with food and the dosing protocols aren't nearly as stringent. IMO bacteriocidals are FAR more effective. But whatever works is of course OK. Just don't let yourself get stuck in a hard and fast regimen that isn't working. Charlie
Posts: 108 From: Brisbane, Australia Registered: Dec 2001
posted 02 July 2002 22:08
*BUMP*
Perhaps we can do this again with the new people
Type : Lyme disease (clinically diagnosed) Duration: 3 months untreated before going on treatment Initial treatment : Doxy 300mg for a month, made little difference Second treatment : Amoxicillin with Probenicid (3g amoxy, 500mg probenicid) for 2 months - great improvement Relapsed after that Relapse treatment : Amoxicillin with Probenicid for 2 weeks (same dosage) - little improvement.