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brianb
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posted 08 January 2001 14:43     Click Here to See the Profile for brianb   Click Here to Email brianb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Type: ARTHRITIC, MUSCULAR,cns
Co/infetiuos: dont know
Antibiotics used/results:
GOOD--Doxy 100mg 4x a day/20 weeks-good for muscle pains
VERY GOOD--Zithromax 3x a day/3weeks-great for memory,joints and muscle
VERDICT NOT IN--Amoxy-just started/9 days 200mg day- have not noticed any significant change

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MADDOG
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posted 08 January 2001 19:40     Click Here to See the Profile for MADDOG   Click Here to Email MADDOG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi,GRRRRR I was all ready to post to this thread and my internet service provider cut me off.Do they wan't a war with a pit bull??GGRRRRR!! Ok back to business.6 years of suffering,joint pain,nerve problems,herniated disk in back,suddenly improved with cipro and hot Nebraska 115 degree weather.Within 6 days I climbed the middle teton.Upon return to home I got bad again.I found out I had Lyme,I was put on suprax,I herxed terribly but my eyesight came back pronto.I was then put on three months rocephin,it about killed me,had gallbladder out,Improved greatly and climbed the grand teton.I then got worse due to lack of followup due to ins,company being LOOSERS.I got worse and began to expiriment with antibiotics,mixing them to try to get better enuf to climb again.I mixed doxycyclene and cipro,and got better and climbed Tewinot mnt.I was way underweight 130 lbs.I took the microsilver bullet collage 40,and gained 35 lbs.I was better for awhile and then crashed again,I couldent afford any more micro silver bullet.I managed a hike to the top of medicine Bow peak,while taking Doxy.No more mnts. for years,everything stoped working,last summer allmost totally lost my mind.A mix of doxy and tinidazole saved my life.200 MG Doxy 500Mg tin.I am now in a state of exhaustion,possibly a virus(cold or flu),I don't know!!!Work is a torture chamber.I am still taking the doxy.I may have a liver problem I do not know,and have no doc. I can go to,that would know.MADDOG

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Chazmyn
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posted 09 January 2001 09:51     Click Here to See the Profile for Chazmyn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Arthritic, neuro, CNS, cardiac, visual, Bell's Palsy, electrical sensitivities, etc.

Am on a combination of Zithro, Flagyl & Doxy. Have tried to discontinue all three but relapse. Each one seems to work on certain areas (suspect co-infections).

Flagyl helped stop heart problems when Zithro & Doxy didn't. (Some problems still but not as much as before.)

Zithro seems to work on brain/face.

Doxy seemed to kill germs in gut better.

Felt more like a human being since maintaining the triple therapy and hope to continue well past symptoms to ensure death to the enemy.

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posted 09 January 2001 14:53     Click Here to See the Profile for lou     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Infected 4 years ago. Been treated for 1 and a half years. Neuro, heart, joint, rashes, vision and hearing symptoms.

Claforan IV and Zithro IV both gave me a 4th week herx, so this must mean they were working. Nothing else did this.

Doxy holds it down, but I never got off the plateau.

Tinidazole doesn't seem to be doing anything.

Rocephin, biaxin, oral zithro all help to hold it down, but no real progress toward "cure/remission"

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charlie
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posted 28 January 2001 14:14     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie   Click Here to Email charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
....Just wanted to pull this up front to see if I could get a few more responses before I try to make some sense out of all this....Charlie

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posted 28 January 2001 14:54     Click Here to See the Profile for bettex   Click Here to Email bettex     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by charlie:
....Just wanted to pull this up front to see if I could get a few more responses before I try to make some sense out of all this....Charlie

Type of Lyme - Late stage , 13 yrs. not treated for first three - Neuro , with skin rashes and burning, brain fog and at times severe muscle spasms lots of twitching

Co -infections -unknown at this time

ABX 1500 amoxy w/ probenecid
good results right away. 1 yr of 1500/probenicid a second year of 3000 per day amoxy

I was asymptomatic pretty much for six years.
Bad relapse last august.
Now I am on 1.2 million units bicillin per week, three weeks now. Herxing all the way so far. Improvement is brain fog almost gone. So still waiting for other signs but am still herxing.


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xbankr
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posted 28 January 2001 15:02     Click Here to See the Profile for xbankr   Click Here to Email xbankr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Type: You name it, I've had it!!Muscle /joint... heart... Nervous system... rashes swollen glands....
Co Infections: 2types of Ehrlichiosis tested neg to Babesiosis but have the symptoms
Doxy 200 mg did wonders for me. Pain free within days. I am now on Doxy 400 mg and Biaxin combo and am feeling GREAT!! Lets do a supplement and anti viral poll next!!

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rosespetal
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posted 28 January 2001 18:31     Click Here to See the Profile for rosespetal   Click Here to Email rosespetal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just about all involvement, getting massaive problems now due to steriods
late stage/arthritis, neck/head pain, tinglies, bladder probs, exhausted, anxiety, heart probs, u guys know lol
ANTIBIOTICS
3 weeks amox 500mg, massaive herx
2 mos later 3 weeks 1,000mg ceftin ALLERGIC
weaned onto 500mg Zith for 6 mos, 4 mos major improvement stayed on 2 extra mos, never got rid of arthritis (now I am suffering BIGTIME) allergic to everything-anaphlaxis- worst of the symptoms back
CO-Infections-never tested
I am looking forward to an antibiotic I am not allergic to and must wait for further testing then be desensitized until then, I am 'coping'
CEFTIN- wasnt worth much, but ipinefrine and sterods (cringe) helped get rid of the allergic response!

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dclyme
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posted 01 February 2001 12:26     Click Here to See the Profile for dclyme   Click Here to Email dclyme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Type of lyme: chronic, mostly neurological, some joint pain, headaches, gastrointestinal problems etc.
Co-Infections:borderline for babesia
Antibiotics used:
Spectacular:havent found it yet!
VeryGOOD:nope!
Good: Biaxin,1000mgs. three months but my doctor took me off it just as i was feeling normal. Doxy 400 mgs approx 11 months, helped at first, but the seemed to plateau.
Useful:Tetracycline. I fount this helpful b/c i started taking it before i was diagnosed and it was all i had so i was basically self medicating. It stopped the quick progression i had over three montyhs of more and worse symptoms. thats what made me really believe maybe i really did have lyme.
Everything I have been on has imrpoved somewhat my symptoms, made them less but im still looking for something that will erradicate them, especially the neurological ones.
I am also on Zoloft 75mgs since aug 2000 and i found that to be a life saver. really helped me and made me feel better, like a human being again.

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Just got prescription of Flagyl to take with Biaxin and Plaquinil. I pray it works since my lower back pain is horrible. Form what I hear, there are severe Herx reactions from the Flagyl...Lord help us all


spectacular: Hopefully the new combo
very good: Biaxin/Plaquinil
usefull: Tetracyclene
worhtless: Amoxicillin

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lyme?
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posted 08 April 2001 18:41     Click Here to See the Profile for lyme?   Click Here to Email lyme?     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good poll.
Mostly neuro sx's:headache, abn.speech
7 months to diagnosis.
pos. babesia
Doxy helped for 4wks then plateau.
rocephin also helped alot to clear neuro sx's
Just started mepron/zithr for babs. Overall about 75% better after 3 months total treatment.

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charlie
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posted 08 April 2001 18:51     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie   Click Here to Email charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for pulling this up. Lyme? Maybe some of the newcomers can respond or get something out of it. I haven't found much that correlates, and dosages would for sure be a factor, but it does show that one size doesn't fit all and the low doses of doxy theory as the preferred first line of treatment doesn't hold up at all under scrutiny. Charlie

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bridetobe
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Type: Lyme Disease...arthritic,mostly neurological problems
Co-infection: Unknown at this time
04/07/00: Started low 200 or 250 mg of Doxycycline. Somewhat useful.
approx. June 00 increased dose of Doxycycline
to 600 mg. good improvement especially with vertigo. Started feeling much better, now I could actually walk around.
A couple of months later leveled off on doxy.
Started Amoxicillian 500mg x 4, 3 x a day
(6 grams a day). Steady improvement from summer of 2000 to current on Amoxicillian. All though improvement continues it is now slow at times. When I come off the amox. symptoms start to creap in. Trouble getting a rid of some of the neurological symptoms.
Stared Zithromax around the Fall of 2000. It help a litte, but my body couldn't handle it.
To many trips to the bathroom.
Just start Flaygel 500 mg. once a day with my amoxicillian.
Flaygel is great! I have some really great days. I actually feel some what normal again. I still flare, and let me tell you the first flare up on Flaygel was intense. I have never felt such pain, but once I got through that I started feeling a lot better.
My mind doesn't feel as foggy. Dont get me wrong, I am still flaring and I am a long way from being cured. I still have really bad days, but nothing like before. At least now I have some really great days.
I pulse the Flaygel and the amox. I do four days on and three days off. Its working well for me, but I still have neurological damage.
Some days I am fine others I can't walk, stay awake or balance. Over all though I am having many more good days.

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Lymetoo
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posted 08 April 2001 23:32     Click Here to See the Profile for Lymetoo   Click Here to Email Lymetoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lyme: Arthritic, CNS, late-stage//40 yrs
untreated
Where am I??
Oh, yeah--coinfection/babesiosis
not tested for Ehrlichiosis
Everything has made me herx. So I guess all are good [??]
Flagyl may have helped some
clindamycin/quinine for babs--headaches
are better
have tried Zithromax, Tetracycline, amoxi
I think that's all so far - Tinidazole next

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charlie
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posted 15 September 2001 17:25     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie   Click Here to Email charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
....To the top for GiGi.

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greg
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posted 16 September 2001 11:59     Click Here to See the Profile for greg   Click Here to Email greg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
TYPE..early disseminated lyme since may2001. with some cns crossovers..floaters,(almost gone) tingling in limbs, fog, heart palps (gone now) slurred speach (gone)
COINFECTIONS.....none
VERY GOOD..amoxicillian 3000mg..so far(only been on it for 2 weeks)this stuff is totally kicking some serious bug a$$..my floaters have stopped and i can tell there is a huge die off going on..
GOOD...doxy 500mg..but i always cheated and took 600mg..thats the kind of guy i am ..it started out working very well..and got rid of alot of my symptoms..then i seemed to plataeu on it .it was still working..but not as well after about 8 weeks..i sttill take both..am improving steadily

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posted 16 September 2001 22:37     Click Here to See the Profile for twoangie   Click Here to Email twoangie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lots of late stage stage stuff and some chronic encephalapathy
Symtoms: CNS, Encephalitis, Vertigo, Neuropathy, Hyperacusis, Arthritis, bladder prblms, occasional facial tingling, dyslexia-both when reading and talking fast, hoarseness, breathing problems, psychiatric (hallucination and nightmares), headaches, fluid in ears, comprehension problems, chronic fatigue, extreme blood pressure swings, sweats, insomnia, low to no fever, etc.

Superior: Nothing yet unless I'm ever totally CURED!

Very good: Biaxin XL 1gram once a day. Have been on it since July 10. Slow improvement but worth it. I started doing very gentle but tough walks b/c I was so weak for 15 min in early August. Today, I was so excited, I walked for an hour!!! Still have fatigue flare ups but I try to fight through them but they can seriously reduce my walking time and distance because I am so tired. Also, have been having some new neuropathy, facial tingling (last three days) and headaches. This makes me determined to definitely NOT avoid doing my walks! I'm calling Dr. tomorrow to be put on additional antibiotic so I don't lose the ground I've gained. Possibly, Plaquenil.
Ok: Doxy. Was given this at 100mg twice a day for 7 days. Was starting to have some improvement but was pulled off because I was "cured!" One and a half week later I was late stage Lyme and found doctor to put me back on Doxy at 200mg twice a day. Stopped mid July because it ceased to be effective and I started going downhill.
Worthless: Haven't tried anything else yet

By the way, Acetazolamide (a diuretic not an antibiotic) 250mg one tablet two days and one day off is excellent to ease the vertigo and brain fog since it reduces some swelling off the old brain. Headaches aren't gone but it has probably been one of the most helpful of the drugs I have taken!

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posted 17 September 2001 12:39     Click Here to See the Profile for Wayne Scott   Click Here to Email Wayne Scott     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bitten: July 2000 Positive Western Blot, bullseye rash

symptoms: eye focus problems, difficulty walking, foot pain, spine involvement, tingling arms and hands, leg aches.

Co-infections: none

anbx: 1) 6 weeks of 200 mgs doxy -- no effect. 2) 8 months of 1 gram ceftin -- immediate improvement which leveled off. 3) 3 months of 400mgs doxy and 1 gram ceftin -- immediate improvement. Lots of herxing all over, especially in brain. 4) 1 week ago I boosted the ceftin to 1500 mgs a day and added 3 grams of tinidazole (no doxy)--More herxing especially in legs and eye sockets (my only remaining symptoms).
I sense that what helps are: mega doses, and combining anbx. Proper protocol is helpful too.

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Sarah
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posted 17 September 2001 13:18     Click Here to See the Profile for Sarah   Click Here to Email Sarah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*)!!!
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Type of Lyme; arthritic, neuro, cns, YES YES YES!!! fatigue, nausea, eye blurriness, gallbladder pain, joint pain and then massive neuro stuff which KEPT PROGRESSINg through orals for almosta year of them, progressive weakness on left side until I couldnt' rise without assistance, balance problems, falling, chorea in my left hand, bouts of convulsive vomiting, IBS, MCS, breathing problems, Reynaudes, RLS, voice slurring, bedridden

co-infections
Babesiosis & Ehrlichiosis

Antibiotics used/Results
SPECTACULAR: IV Rocephin 9 months!!!
VERY GOOD: Mepron!! Doxycyline!!!
USEFUL: AFTER IV only - Suprax & Biaxin WORKED and PRE-Rocephin they did nothing- load was too high I guess-
WORTHLESS: ****pre-Rocephin**** Suprax, Biaxin, Flagyl, AMoxi were worthless- AFTER
the Suprax & Biaxin worked well at maintaining all my gains for a few months

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rhubarb
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posted 17 September 2001 13:29     Click Here to See the Profile for rhubarb   Click Here to Email rhubarb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
symptoms: swolen lymph gland, EM, muscle ache, fever, severe continuous headache
diagnosed after 1 week

Co-infections: Don't know
SPECTACULAR: Whatever gets rid of the brainfog/hungoverness
GOOD: First treatment Doxy 2 weeks. Cured all symptoms. But left brainfog/hungoverness
USEFUL:
WORTHLESS:

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posted 17 September 2001 21:46     Click Here to See the Profile for Foggy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What's the difference between Doxycycline and Tetracycline? If it's worthless for one person, does that mean it will be worthless for me, or is it subjective?

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posted 18 September 2001 00:52     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie   Click Here to Email charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
...No it does not. treatment has to be tailored to the individual case. I started some trouble inadvertantly by saying that long term tetra didn't work for me. well, it doesn't work for everybody, or most, from my experience. It does for some. Doxy is derived from oxytetracycline(source: PDR). It doesn't work for everybody either, but at least you can take it with food and the dosing protocols aren't nearly as stringent. IMO bacteriocidals are FAR more effective. But whatever works is of course OK. Just don't let yourself get stuck in a hard and fast regimen that isn't working. Charlie

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posted 18 September 2001 20:46     Click Here to See the Profile for BRENDA2   Click Here to Email BRENDA2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Late/Neuro Lyme
Not tested for coinfections
Fair: Doxycycline
Excellent: Rocephin IV
Very Good: Penicilling G IV

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msgrudi
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posted 18 September 2001 22:56     Click Here to See the Profile for msgrudi   Click Here to Email msgrudi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone know the difference between Doxcycline & Minocycline? Pros? Cons? I'm very new to all this.

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Akula
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posted 02 July 2002 22:08     Click Here to See the Profile for Akula   Click Here to Email Akula     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*BUMP*

Perhaps we can do this again with the new people

Type : Lyme disease (clinically diagnosed)
Duration: 3 months untreated before going on treatment
Initial treatment : Doxy 300mg for a month, made little difference
Second treatment : Amoxicillin with Probenicid (3g amoxy, 500mg probenicid) for 2 months - great improvement
Relapsed after that
Relapse treatment : Amoxicillin with Probenicid for 2 weeks (same dosage) - little improvement.

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