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rosesisland2000
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posted 03 July 2002 07:44     Click Here to See the Profile for rosesisland2000     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's a more recent poll that also covers abx treatment.

http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000323.html

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Mark LaFevers
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posted 03 July 2002 23:07     Click Here to See the Profile for Mark LaFevers   Click Here to Email Mark LaFevers     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just noticed this poll, and had a thought reading the posts on it.

Most people are posting the state they are in. In the reading to date I've seen many references to there being over 100 strains of lyme in North America. If you had those strain names pinned as flags on a map, and overlaid a map from postings as to what meds worked killer, I wonder if you would see a correlation between meds/strain/geography?

Anyone need a project?

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meg
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posted 04 July 2002 01:22     Click Here to See the Profile for meg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good thought Mark, bring it up in another post as some people may not come to the end of this one again--? I think its worth looking into.

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posted 04 July 2002 02:22     Click Here to See the Profile for primcol   Click Here to Email primcol     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chronic, late and relapsing lyme...all serology positive.

coinfections unknown.

Did long IV ..definitly saved my life...and on tetracycline orals
for last two years. Occassionally try
others in addition

Severe progressive arthritis, much sinus
probs leading to complete loss of sense of smell, chronic fatigue, memory loss..and memory and concentration probs and occassional bowel motility disorder and psoriasis, sleep problems, mood swings and
almost everything on burrescano list at
some time in the past.

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posted 04 July 2002 07:51     Click Here to See the Profile for bik77   Click Here to Email bik77     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Symptoms: Headache and numbness in left leg.

Co-Infections: Bartonella, not tested for others.

Antibiotics: Doxy (generic and Doryx), No change in symptoms after four weeks (maybe too early to tell.)

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posted 14 August 2002 11:08     Click Here to See the Profile for lla2   Click Here to Email lla2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
this is a great poll! Even though it is old, I thought I'd bring it back to the top!!

Lisa

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Congenital Lyme Disease - 46 yrs. untreated. All systems involved, although more severe neuro, upper body arthritic & GI symptoms.
Co-infections - Babesia suspected, but test results not in yet.
Employed in oil company as Admin Assistant.

Began treatment 8 days ago (8/7/02) on Minocin. First 3 days, almost complete relief of all symptoms. 4th day, light herxing began. 8th day, heavier herxing. Dizziness is major side effect / herx symptom since day 1.

Hope this works. Keep this poll going! Need info. for the future!

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posted 14 August 2002 11:52     Click Here to See the Profile for Tunes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for all the entries fellow lymies. I've been reading for months... you've all helped so much.
Here goes...

Evidently I was infected July, 2001. No rash, never saw tick but was in the great northwoods of WI.

Type: Nause, gall bladder pain, FATIGUE, twitching, memory loss, interrupted sleep, numbness, joint pain, increased sensitivity to smell, thyroid failure,adrenal gland failure...
Finally... found LLMD Hofmann Estates Il
Tested positive Western Blot

Co-infections neg so far still testing

Treatment June 2002 4oo mg doxy/day
July 2002 400mg doxy/day 500 mg flagyl/day
many supplements

I can't rate my treatment yet. Herxed twice now, that first one was horrible, last one bad but not AS bad.

Good luck everyone!

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posted 02 April 2003 12:33     Click Here to See the Profile for livinlyme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BUMP
recent treatment: 6 week just starting
I am on Vantin 200mg BID, SO far excellant!
Was on Doxycycline 200mg BID, caused major symptom increse(herx).
No confirmed DX yet, Symptoms include:
pain, weakness and numbness, neuropathy in my left arm and leg, diarrhea, sinuitis, breathing difficulties, asthma, tick in my right eye, difficulty walking and falling often, tremor or seizure, memory loss, fogging, lung and/or heart involvement, Uterine involement.

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posted 02 April 2003 15:49     Click Here to See the Profile for AZURE WISH   Click Here to Email AZURE WISH     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
late stage lyme (joint pain, extreme fatigue, muscle ache, see flashes of light main symptoms)

coinfections - had the one that starts w ech
(sorry i cant spell)

SPECTACULAR - (briefly then i plateau)
rocephin iv, flagyl , vantin, zinthro iv

GOOD (stabilizing) - bicillin injections zinthro oral

POOR - biaxin

USELESS - leviquin (sp?) amoxicillin i got worse!!
doxy - couldnt keep it down

thats all i can remember rite now

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posted 01 May 2003 05:06     Click Here to See the Profile for BugBarb   Click Here to Email BugBarb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ceftin + amoxicillin + probenicid= great initially

doxy + ceftin

Flagyl +???

biaxin +

levaquin

cipro

minocycline

I can't even remember all the combos and when they were given...

Every so often, I look up the antibiotic I am on and find different meds others have tried with it. Then I take the list and ask my doctor to prescribe them to me. Doesn't always work, but I feel that way, that I am involved in my treatment. And he does listen to me.

I know this is an old topic, but it is a goodie. Maybe we need a whole section devoted to antibiotics.

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posted 01 May 2003 08:15     Click Here to See the Profile for HaplyCarlessdave   Click Here to Email HaplyCarlessdave     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Contracted lyme May, 2000 (possibly '99; don't quite remember...)
Here's the "event list", best I can remember at this time:

Tick bites, one with with circular rash, from ticks near Brigantine, NJ.

1 week later, went to ("regular") doc, was put on 6 weeks doxycycline 200 mg/day.
No symptoms then, other than rash, that I recall.

2 months later, got very sick- high fever, joint pain, muscle pain, swollen lymph nodes, went back to doc, another course of doxycycline, same dose. No effect for 2 weels, then got worse ("herxheimer reaction"), then a little betterafter 3-4 weeks. Then the pills ran out.

Immediately went downhill again. Had more tests, still ...'negative'... (yeah, right) for lyme, they told me that I had some kind of high "rheumatoid factor" in one of the tests, but they "couldn't determine what was going on", and wouldn't see me any more.

Found Lymenet and concluded from all the info I found that I probably had lyme and was a victim of the american ...'medical' system....

Started some herbal remedies I read helped some people, grapefruitseed extract and olive leaf extract. Good initial results, but then started getting worse again.

From local lyme support group, found a real lyme doc, but it was pretty far away. Had another blood test, from Bowen. Found I had Lyme, ehrlichiosis, and babesiosis.
Was put back on doxy, but now at 400mg/day. Then added 'ceftin' (cefuroxime axefil) 500mg/ day to to the doxy after a month.
Stayed on this combi several months. Also increased grapefruitseed ectract and olive leaf extract to .5g/day apiece.

Then switched to clarithromycin ('biaxin'), 1g/day+ amox6g/day. Stayed on this combi for over a year. Got gradually better, but had many "herx reactions" for the first half -year.

Started artimesia anua 1g/day increasing to 2g/day (and continued garlic, 2+g/ day) for babesia, for a couple months, then added 'malarone' (which is atovaquone, but I'm not sure of the dose) for a couple months. Also was switched to doxy+clarithromycin. abx-wise. After this I began to rapidly get much, much better.

Finally, Tinidazole 1g +clarithromycin, 1g/day for the last several months. Then off abx- it's been 4 months-, and so far, I'm still getting better and better. I still take garlic and occasional rounds of artimisinin, and occasional rounds of gse/ole. to stave oiff relapse in case a few 'chetes or 'modiums somehow survived in my toxic bod through all that treatment...
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steveg
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posted 01 May 2003 08:33     Click Here to See the Profile for steveg   Click Here to Email steveg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My wifes experience so far . . .

Type: arthritic with some peripheral neuro involvement
Co-infections: Don't know
Antibiotics used oral (not sure of brand. . . i think it was diox . . 30 days use)
/Results SPECTACULAR: the severe pain is gone !!! . . after months of pain, then the diagnosis, 30 days later shes much much better . . .

. . . however, she is slowly losing memory / ability to think . . . pretty scary !! . . i need help !! (her doctor said to call if the arthitis returns)

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posted 01 May 2003 10:00     Click Here to See the Profile for David95928   Click Here to Email David95928     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Type:
Chronic, broadly disseminated (joints, tendons, muscles, cogniton, peripheral neuropathy...)

Place of initial infection:
Massachussets or Georgia

Length of infection:
At least since 1991

Co-infections:
Unknown

Antibiotics:
Azithromycin, first 250 per day then/now 500.
ALmost two months now, Bicillin injections.

Effectiveness:
Main improvement with Azithromycin alone was in the area of cognition. Since starting Bicillin, tendons seem to be improving, episodic improvement in sense of wel being,papular rash on back cleared, joints are better.

We will see but I am optimistic of good recovery/control and am prepared tostay on abx as long as needed.

David

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posted 03 May 2003 02:39     Click Here to See the Profile for JonathanAdams   Click Here to Email JonathanAdams     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SPECTACULAR: zithromax/plaquenil/amoxycillin combination (zithromax and plaquenil kill the intracellular forms, amoxy kills them when they jump outside the cells). Bad herxes for several weeks, then rapid improvement.

GOOD: zithromax and amoxy without plaquenil.

Rocephin.

Lorabid.

Hold the disease steady with a very gradual trend towards improvement over many months. But who wants to wait that long?


USELESS: Doxycycline (it worked very well at first, then the Lyme bacteria got resistant to it after I had an attack of acne that donated its plasmid DNA to them).

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posted 03 May 2003 02:44     Click Here to See the Profile for JonathanAdams   Click Here to Email JonathanAdams     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SPECTACULAR: zithromax/plaquenil/amoxycillin combination (zithromax and plaquenil kill the intracellular forms, amoxy kills them when they jump outside the cells). Bad herxes for several weeks, then rapid improvement.

GOOD: zithromax and amoxy without plaquenil.

Rocephin.

Lorabid.

Hold the disease steady with a very gradual trend towards improvement over many months. But who wants to wait that long?


USELESS: Doxycycline (it worked very well at first, then the Lyme bacteria got resistant to it after I had an attack of acne that donated its plasmid DNA to them).

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posted 02 July 2003 01:21     Click Here to See the Profile for Tincup     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Up for newer folks...

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posted 10 July 2003 17:33     Click Here to See the Profile for LabRat   Click Here to Email LabRat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To the top!

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Two bites, one aprox.18 years ago ,and one in 1995..Bullseye from 1995 bite ,recured in 1996 in same spot but faded.

Positive WB IGm, even met the CDC criteria:66 41 23

coinfections of Bartonella, Babesia.. and unsure about Ehrlickiosis- test was borderline somewhat..

I saw this post when I was dx 1 year ago, but had nothing to put here yet , but now I canadd something to the post and will add to it as needed.

Excellent Results: Impenem IV( Primaxin) made a huge diff. in cognitive symptoms, but I had severe allergic rash after 6 weeks and had to discontinue..

Excellent also:IV Rocephin (10 mo.) clearing of many neuro symptoms incl. photosensitivity.. but reached a standstill

Good, IV zithro, zithromax-orals

Undecieded :Flagyl( stirs up head stuff)
Doxy, not truely able to evaluate as was only on for 10 days so far..
Cipro( having tendon, shoulder and disc. problems that may be associated with the Cipro
IV Clindamycin: was on in Combo on and off with Zithro and IV Rocephin and may have assisted w/improvements seen while on Rocephin - by itself did not herx or improve in my opinion..It is hard for me to say if this med was truely useless..

Starting IV Leiquin, Plaquinil, IV Zithro in 2 weeks and will update soon as there is something to add.

I will say that allthough they are not Abx., Provigil is very useful for fatigue
( Anti-Narcoleptic) and Diamox ( diuretic) is truely helpful for Swelling/head pressure /pain at head and neck area.,but should be taken with potasium as it deplete it .
Sandi

Very good: Babesia ,
Clindamycin oral/Mepron = unbelieveable herx .. and 10 days of feeling fatigue free and energized , later courses w/ mepron/ Zith produced good results as well but have not achived the freedom of fatigue I saw from the first round.. To date any of the Babesia Tx. have been the most severe of all Herxs for me w/ awful neuro herxing , fatigue, depression,emotions run wild.

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posted 20 October 2003 08:53     Click Here to See the Profile for Richie   Click Here to Email Richie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Co-infections All Late stage 15 years of ups and downs positive blood and 2 MD verified rashes Doc called them classics and took photos for CDC so if you see one covering the upper left torso that's me
Just released from hospital for spasms.My whole body just locked up very strange.Dealing with M.D.whose most important finding was I have long hair and Lyme is Lymes.Contacting my MD back east today for help
antibiotics good for a while BiaxinXL 1000mg a day.worked for a while then the tremors began down to 130 pounds at 6 2
Gonna try the Zap thing if the Doc thinks it wise.useless Pennicillin doxy in late stages had a good run with Ceclor but like most failed after a few months.that seems to be the standard flagyl got the headaches sorry to ramble but I'm not quite with it at the moment.
Peace

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Type: Central Nervous System, some neuro. Have had LD since April 2002. Did not begin treatment until January 2003.

Spectacular: Flagyl for one week each month - I herx terribly, but then feel great!

Very Good: Have seen the best results from Biaxin/Plaquenil/Amoxicillen combo. Take this every day throughout the month and then add the Flagyl as I said earlier one week each month.

Bad: Cipro/Doxy combo - terrible yeast problems and did very little to help with my symptoms.

nonantibiotic therapy: I take 300 mg. neurontin every night before going to bed. Seems to calm all the agitation with my nervous system.

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posted 02 December 2003 13:17     Click Here to See the Profile for liz28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Up!

Anyone have some good updates to this? My doctor is thinking about the following combination for neuro stuff:

Omnicef/flagyl/zith/plaquenil.

Minocycline worked too, but had overwhelming side effects.

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posted 03 December 2003 01:56     Click Here to See the Profile for auntybiotic1499     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Up for Fluffy and other newcomers.

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posted 03 December 2003 22:04     Click Here to See the Profile for easterndogdays   Click Here to Email easterndogdays     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh man, this is too much for me to read all responses. I can't write all I've tried either. What I usually say is I have all symptoms except forthe testicular pain, am female, and no heart attack/stroke or death.
Type: Major Neurological,musculoskeletal, vision, hearing, bells palsy comes/goes, balance, arthitis, cognitive, brain damage, etc.
Co-infections: bartonella, babesia, both Ehrlichiosis
Antibiotics used/results:
Spectacular: When my wishes come true.

Very Good: Rocephin IV 2gr twice a day - 10 mos doing great, then ins cut me off. Re-started ~2mos later but never recoverd to same as previous, still taking it.

Mepron - for babesia- technically not an 'antibiotic'. Ev time tried to get off it, sweats start & feel worse. Never tested positive for babesia

Zithromax - bartonella
also take Plaquinal for symptoms

Flagyl - must be doing something, ???? major herxing going on NOW and since re-started it a month or so ago. Take it 3 times a day.

Useful: Initially, doxy 600mg day or was that 600mg twice a day??

Worthless: bicillin = only sore butt; Ceftin;Cipro;biaxin; doxy 100mg twice day a tiny help; amoxicillin no help
rifampin iv=major nausea & herx; rifampin oral=major nausea & herx
Levaquin - couldn't tell if did anything or not.

There have been others, can't remember everything. Take Neurontin and Robaxin? for pain w/vicodin, and other stuff.

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