posted 17 November 2004 18:13               

We have had great success with them.

frenchbraid

posted 17 November 2004 19:22               

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Originally posted by mycoplasma1:

I am taking PB8 on and off, but don't really think it is helping.

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"On and off" is the problem, I would say. I take PB8 and have taken Nystatin "forever."

GIGI ... what's this EM? Source? and How does it work?

posted 17 November 2004 20:24               

Note the remark on that thread someone made about the last ingredient being sugar. EM is a fermented product that contains n o sugar. It is
a super product, a probiotic, for everyone, not just sick people to use. It brings back all the good bacteria that has been massacred in various ways by drugs, etc.

For Chris, We used Pharmax's HCL, the intensive, which is a highly concentrated probiotic (seven sachets in a box - use one daily) You use HCL for a week or two and then go to their regular probiotic. Medicine Man in Seattle sells it at discount 206-789-0800. It is very potent.

I took Nystatin for about 3 days and then tossed it. It caused intolerable effects for me (and many people I know that tried it). I never took it again, but stuck with Pharmax products that worked well for us.

But for the minimal cost, be sure to explore EM - see above website.

posted 24 January 2005 08:07            

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Originally posted by cigi:
How can you tell if you have a yeast problem if you have no visible symptoms.

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candida species, when in the bloodstream, can colonize everywhere from the kidneys, the respiratory tract or sinus cavities.

you can have a candidiasis panel by pcr done at MDL which checks a multitude of candida strains, test # 565. http://www.mdlab.com/html/testing/available_tests.html#mycology

additionaly have a dysbiosis test (d-arbintol levels) at metametrix. http://www.metametrix.com/TestServ/default.asp?PageID=10

d-arbinatol is not good for more immunosuppresive, fluconazole (diflucan) resistant candida strains like candida krusei or candida glabrata.

if you have taken diflucan, or any azole medication before, you are more likely to have one of these more 'exotic' strains.

check out this link for more info - http://www.biodia.com/test228.html

most doctors are unaware that a candida infection, by IDSA guidelines, should be treated until the infection is absent from blood serum for at least 2 weeks plus clincial symptoms are gone before stopping antifungal therapy.
http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/CID/journal/issues/v38n2/32301/32301.html

see table 2 in latter link.

you may have to see an ID specialist to treat this if you have positive test returns and your dr doesn't know how to treat this.

you can also have barium testing or endoscopic testing done to see where the infection is but i would hold off on that and do blood serology first as that more invasive.

like chronic lyme borreliosis infection, systemic candidiasis is not widely known nor accepted by most md's. it is not thoroughly taught or often seen, hence a specialist may be needed.

most of the information out there (specifically via the internet) is completely unsubstantiated and unreliable concerning the symptoms of candidiasis.

i can only recommend doing the testing and see what develops from there.

posted 24 January 2005 10:10               

I've been doing abx tx because I was so bad and could barely walk. Amalgams are next...it depends where your at.

My personal feeling is to deal with amalgams first and remember to detox mercury out of your system. Parasites are very attracted to heavy metals...this is why I'm saying amalgams first.

Three Lac and Primal Defense are very good yeast fighters. Three Lac I've tried and it was very effective. Both these companies as I recall make a very good acidophilus or probiotic (can't remember which one).

Lymetoo, thank you for posting the diet.

Great reminder about what not to eat and especially good for new members who may not have this info.

I follow this diet 90% strict and when I don't I sure feel it.

posted 24 January 2005 15:33               

I have been using the anti candida food lists from www.wholeapproach.com. The diet is working very well for me.

I don't eat any breads, pasta, tortillas, flours, grains regardless of whether they have yeast or are sprouted. I simply can't eat grains period. I do eat red meat and feel better when I do. I limit fish consumption because of mercury concerns.

Primal Defense Powder has been a great probiotic for me. I take it every afternoon and before bed. Sometimes I have some in the late morning at least 2 hours after abx. I mix it in a little yogurt or kefir, or sprinkle it on a salad.

I ordered it at www/iherb.com which was recommended here. The container lasts 2 months for me. Well worth the $31. Doesn't need refrigeration so good for travel.
h&s

posted 24 January 2005 17:29               

Why does this guy say that chicken and fish are okay, but red meat is not? AS long as the protein is organic grass fed it should be okay. I think making sure that it is organic is the most important thing so that we are not ingesting mycotoxins from animals that have been given abx. I thought I was doing good by eating boneless/skinless chicken breasts from Costco untill I found out about mycotoxins. No sense in putting these yeast toxins back into your body when that is what you are trying to get rid of.

Does this Dr have any recommendations for the herbal supplements as far as dosage and rotation so that they remain effective against candida?

posted 24 January 2005 19:03               

This diet is really designed for elimination of the candida. I believe you can modify it somewhat once you get things under control. For example, I might occasionally eat peas or a FEW carrots from time to time.

If I start having yeast symptoms again, I go back to the diet and get really strict.

This naturopath owns a health food store so I'm sure he just recommends what he sells! He doesn't think much of MLM's and their products. He's missing alot of good stuff with that mode of thinking!

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