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dullchime
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posted 24 February 2005 17:44     Click Here to See the Profile for dullchime   Click Here to Email dullchime     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This was a post I was involved in maybe at the end of the summer and I was wondering how many of the current users on the site have these now?

Take a look in your mouth in front of the tonsil area. Do you have a dark red cresent on either side. This condition was known to be an indicator of CFS (chronic fatigue syndrome) and during the first post a few people claimed they also had this.

Due to the questionability of the CFS/Lyme association, I'm just wondering who else have seen these.

Do you still see them? For how long?

Just curious..

chime

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PinchotGail
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posted 24 February 2005 18:03     Click Here to See the Profile for PinchotGail   Click Here to Email PinchotGail     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I have these also. I've been treated for lyme and babesia since March of last year. I really don't remember when I got these........they've been there a long time.

Gail

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Sue vG
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posted 24 February 2005 18:13     Click Here to See the Profile for Sue vG   Click Here to Email Sue vG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have them, and have had them since I became ill.

Since I was not diagnosed with lyme until 15 months after I became ill, that meant I walked around for that length of time with a diagnosis of CFIDS/Fibro based on those crescents and my neuromuscular symptoms.

In my experience, it all came on at once so it's all one thing.

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dullchime
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posted 25 February 2005 07:09     Click Here to See the Profile for dullchime   Click Here to Email dullchime     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have been feeling tons better in the past few months and my cresents are just as prominent as when I first spotted them.

I'm wondering if they ever go away.

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treepatrol
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posted 25 February 2005 07:24     Click Here to See the Profile for treepatrol   Click Here to Email treepatrol     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yeast ?

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dullchime
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posted 25 February 2005 08:19     Click Here to See the Profile for dullchime   Click Here to Email dullchime     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I doubt it would be yeast. When I first noticed something was wrong I had a sore throat on one side and I looked at my throat and the both sides had the dark red cresents and I thought- why is only one side sore but both are inflamed??

Now, Yeah my throat is all red from yeast but the Cresents still remain.

One person left a post in the summer that stated that their LLMD told them it meant there was still a live infection going on.

Food for thought I guess.

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posted 25 February 2005 08:34     Click Here to See the Profile for treepatrol   Click Here to Email treepatrol     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tonsils crimson crescents.


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The posterior oropharynx in patients with EBV infectious mononucleosis is uniformly erythematous. This is in contrast to the discreet pretonsillar purplish discoloration observed in CFS that has been termed "crimson crescents." Crimson crescents, a possible marker of CFS, occur in the absence of surrounding posterior pharyngeal erythema. Patients with CFS do not present predominantly with pharyngitis.


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* A typical symptom of systemic mycoplasma infection, resulting from abnormal stimulation of cytokines, involves a chronic red discoloration of the anterior pharyngeal pillars. Stand in front of a mirror with your mouth open wide. Point a flash-light into the mirror so that the beam reflects back into your pharynx. On either side of your throat, behind the molars and in front of the tonsils, the crescents may be an intense crimson color along the margins of both pharyngeal pillars. In patients without tonsils, the crimson crescents would appear further back.

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posted 25 February 2005 08:53     Click Here to See the Profile for dullchime   Click Here to Email dullchime     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Whats the difference between Mycoplasma and Lyme disease? I know they're similar, I guess I'm just wondering.

Is it like a coinfection?

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posted 25 February 2005 09:30     Click Here to See the Profile for treepatrol   Click Here to Email treepatrol     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dullchime:
Whats the difference between Mycoplasma and Lyme disease? I know they're similar, I guess I'm just wondering.

Is it like a coinfection?


Lyme is a spirocheteal infection.

Mycoplasma is coinfection sometimes.
M. hyorhinis, M. arginini, M. fermentans, M. orale, M. pirum, M. hominis, M. salivarium, and Acholeplasma laidlawii.

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Patented Yep!3

Plum Island
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Also called Mollicute

CHECK IT OUT THERES A SPIROCHETE CALLED spiroplasma

spiroplasma
spiral-shaped plant pathogenic mollicute (prokaryote without cell wall)
(Spiroplasma citri)

This is getting weird.

And for the smart people hahahah not me

Genomes Microbes


Read CDC References Bottom of page Links

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posted 25 February 2005 09:37     Click Here to See the Profile for dullchime   Click Here to Email dullchime     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
good stuff. thanks

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posted 25 February 2005 10:07     Click Here to See the Profile for treepatrol   Click Here to Email treepatrol     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by dullchime:
good stuff. thanks

Yep

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dullchime
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posted 25 February 2005 11:22     Click Here to See the Profile for dullchime   Click Here to Email dullchime     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey tree,

Can markers in the blood for Lyme be confused with some kind of Mycoplasma?

Just curious..

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treepatrol
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posted 25 February 2005 11:46     Click Here to See the Profile for treepatrol   Click Here to Email treepatrol     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dullchime:
Hey tree,

Can markers in the blood for Lyme be confused with some kind of Mycoplasma?

Just curious..



Name the markers your speaking about ??

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dullchime
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posted 25 February 2005 12:08     Click Here to See the Profile for dullchime   Click Here to Email dullchime     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I dont know really. I was referring to the active lyme bands.

I dont know the number right off the top of my head.

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treepatrol
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posted 25 February 2005 12:28     Click Here to See the Profile for treepatrol   Click Here to Email treepatrol     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dullchime:
I dont know really. I was referring to the active lyme bands.

I dont know the number right off the top of my head.


No they have there own kDa kilodalton = molecular weight

My brains ready to explode! hahah

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