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Tincup
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posted 26 February 2005 23:57     Click Here to See the Profile for Tincup     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks again to everyone responding.

I am not sure this has been done before.. but I would like to know about how much Lyme disease costs you (one person) per month?

I am thinking of using these figures to share with the Senate folks... or maybe in an article?

Anyone willing and able.. can you make an estimate and let me know? It took me about 10 minutes to do mine.. just rough estimates are fine.

I KNOW it will vary month to month.. and will change if you are better or worse.. and depending what meds you are on. But if you can.. try to get a decent idea and add it up using this for an example...

Example- You have one MRI in a year. It would cost about $1,200.00. Divided up that would be about $100.00 per month. Got it?

If insurance pays.. still count it as YOUR expenses.. and estimate.

****Please also indicate what tick borne diseases you have.. and how long you've been sick.****

Thanks!!!

Medical (LLMD or other) doctors visits

Chiropractic visits

Natural doctors visits

Nursing services

Specialists, eye, ENT, obgyn, gastro, etc

Physical therapy

Blood tests

Prescription drugs (antibiotics, pain meds, yeast, seizure meds, antidepressants, etc)

Supplements (from vitamins to sea salt, etc)

First Aid supplies- (examples IV supplies, wrist braces, heating pad, ace bandages, therometer, tweezers, sun tan lotions, etc)

Tests (example- Xrays, MRI, CAT scans, EKG, EMG, Spinal taps, neuro, cognative)

Special diets (additional costs for eating low carb, low sugar, fresh foods, etc)

Over The Counter medicine (sinus, asprin, Rolaids, Pepto, etc)

Help in/around home (cleaning, grass cutting, book keeping, car repairs, other chores you could do before but can't now)

Additional transportation (to/from doctors offices, pharmacy, labs, etc)

Equipment (oxygen, eye glasses, wheelchair, blood pressure cuff, hot tub, sauna, cane, wheelchair lifts and ramp, exercise equipment, gym or pool fees, yoga classes, etc)

Misc. expenses

Lost wages and benefits


Total monthly expenses


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Corinne E
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posted 27 February 2005 02:58     Click Here to See the Profile for Corinne E   Click Here to Email Corinne E     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Tincup,

Will tell you tomorrow, it's too late to figure out right now. Although I was going to say too much.

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HaplyCarlessdave
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posted 27 February 2005 03:17     Click Here to See the Profile for HaplyCarlessdave   Click Here to Email HaplyCarlessdave     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When I was the worst, and on the most expensive drugs, around $1k a month or maybe a little more, including direct doctor expense. But, oh yes-- if you include transportatation it goes up to $1100 . And thats still low, perhaps- sometimes there was some pretty friggin' expensive "lab work", too. And this is direct epense . Combined with lost income the expense gets even higher.
DaveS

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HaplyCarlessdave
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posted 27 February 2005 03:22     Click Here to See the Profile for HaplyCarlessdave   Click Here to Email HaplyCarlessdave     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
including lost income and physical rehab,
I'd revi$e my estimate to an average of nearly $2000 a month....
DS

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shadow13
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posted 27 February 2005 03:40     Click Here to See the Profile for shadow13   Click Here to Email shadow13     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When on IV's that cost alone is almost $1500 per week - not counting the home nurse which is probably about $100 a week at least.

Right now using your list and including lost wages and benes my monthly expenses are about $5480.

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shassler64
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posted 27 February 2005 06:37     Click Here to See the Profile for shassler64   Click Here to Email shassler64     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lost wages-$5ooo per month

Medications-$1000 per month

Tests and docs-$150 per month

Supplements-$100 per month

chiro-$200 per month

Acupuncture-$50 per month

cleaning-$100 per month

Total $6600 approx

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lymemomtooo
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posted 27 February 2005 08:02     Click Here to See the Profile for lymemomtooo   Click Here to Email lymemomtooo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not sure..Will try later..How about the following:

Almost no friends
Lost junior year in high school
Not allowed to attend full day or extra curriculars for half of senior year.Now no desire to do so.
Rules regularly changing for school
Not physically and mentally able to drive or get learner's permit
Never invited to a dance or attended on own
Unable to continue varsity sports or any sports. Was an athlete.
Constant stares by peers and teachers
Always feels she is dirty.Takes 3 showers a day minimum.
Often feel of being an aggrivation going to nurses office
Obvious dislike by principal
Some telling you to stop talking about it to just do it..Commit suicide
Invited to one party in last 2 years
Severe and chronic pain
Extreme level of OCD
Unable to relate in any loving way to family or her own pets
Fear of every day
Dispair of continuing life due in her mind too lack of significant improvement..No hope.
Unable to date. No real takers..
Numerous suicide attempt including current one 2-25-05
Numerous visits in psych wards or psych hospitals
Low self esteem when she used to be one of the big fish on campus
Hopes for being a Vet probably unatainable
Constant love for the outdoors and woods has now become a fear. Was on the school district envirothon team for 5 years.
Cognitive skills so deterioriated that unable to take SAT's. Had been a distinguished honor student.
Fun loving personality down the drain
Antagonistic to many
Unable to participate in family functions
Turned 18 without a good grasp on reality.
Currently signed a hospital form to not let parents get info from the hospital..$#*^

The list could go on for a much longer time,forget the meds and Dr's bills, how do you put a price on this monthly? I suppose this is not what you want, but I think this is so much more expensive than the other things.So this monthly bill is bankruptcy!!with the constant potential for loss of life.
Sorry Tincup, I am sure this is not what you want but I am so po'ed with lyme and bartonella currently that this is invading all of my thoughts..lymemomtooo

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Lymetoo
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posted 27 February 2005 08:11     Click Here to See the Profile for Lymetoo   Click Here to Email Lymetoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you're talking about only medical expenses, I would say $600 a month.

lymemomtoo said it all

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cigi
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posted 27 February 2005 08:29     Click Here to See the Profile for cigi   Click Here to Email cigi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Right now, between docs, meds, supplements for me and my son around $800.00 per month. Some months it's more - rarely less.

Cigi

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fatigued15
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posted 27 February 2005 08:55     Click Here to See the Profile for fatigued15     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is a scary one to admit too. With supplements, doctor visits, travel, food, acupucnture, Qigong we spend at least $1050.00 a month out of pocket. ABX covered by insurance (for now I think it is only a matter of time.) are another $600.00 a month.

My daughter has been sick for a little over 2 years. We are new to Lyme she was dx about 4 months ago.

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lynnic86
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posted 27 February 2005 11:35     Click Here to See the Profile for lynnic86   Click Here to Email lynnic86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
tincup:
gotta figure this one out and not able to today.. will get back to ya.
lynne

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ShelleyA
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posted 27 February 2005 12:06     Click Here to See the Profile for ShelleyA   Click Here to Email ShelleyA     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Easily $100/mo

Inability to work.....no income so ??? prob. lose $1500-2000 in wages/mo.

In 1990's I prob. had spend or lost around $20,000 in medical bills and loss of work...travel for answers (Mayo)...inability to cont. education for higher wages for higher paying job.....

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lymeyinok
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posted 27 February 2005 12:13     Click Here to See the Profile for lymeyinok   Click Here to Email lymeyinok     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Will take some time to figure later the cost of doctor visits and travel out of state and the fact that insurance covers only 1/3rd of these dr. visits and tests.

Out of pocket - not covered by insurance - monthly: compounded heparin troches, hormones, oral antibiotics, supplements - $800-$1000/mo !!! This blew me away when I figured it up!


As lymemomtooo put it - how do you figure the loss of your 'normal' life?

PRICELESS !!!!!!

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NP40
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posted 27 February 2005 14:01     Click Here to See the Profile for NP40   Click Here to Email NP40     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let's see, son was diagnosed Oct. 04.

Insurance costs since then approximately $75,000 divided by 5 months = $15,000 per-month.

Out of pocket meds = $1,000 per-month
Supplements = $100 per-month

Lost wages ? Don't even want to think about it.

Total = $16,100 per-month

Dem insurance execs is a reeeeeeeeal smart fella's, just look at da money they's a savin' !

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TheCrimeOfLyme
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posted 27 February 2005 14:20     Click Here to See the Profile for TheCrimeOfLyme   Click Here to Email TheCrimeOfLyme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Meds, supplements:
200.00 a month. Insurance pays for all scripts though, so this is my out of pocket expense.

Lost wages:
2,000.00 a month, as I have to work VERY close to home in a lower paying job, instead of in the city where my degree is worth alot more

Other than that, I can't put a price on the life stolen from me, or the time spent watching my kids grow- that I didnt get to do.

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kam
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posted 27 February 2005 16:42     Click Here to See the Profile for kam   Click Here to Email kam     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am very limited on what I can spend each month.

When I have it:

Epsom Salts: $20 est.

Podi Patches: $100 a month for first two months. Approximately $50 a month now for maintenance

Vitamins: whatever is on sale

Excedrin: I go through one bottle a month. I'll get back to you on this as I am working on medical costs right now.

Clay: I think that was $100...don't know how long it will last me at this point.

Power Chair was donated. Not sure how I am going to pay for batteries when they need replacing or wheels.

Amtrak: $60 approximately every 3 months.

LLMD: $190 every 3 months

Transportation (Gas Money): this varies too. Some people do not charge me and others do.

I recently had a blood test to check liver, etc. Not sure what that cost is.

In the past had MRI, Cat Scans, ...sorry brain is going...will come back to this.

Sorry, I am unable to come up with bottom line right now. Need to walk through each thing as it pops in my mind...teflon mind.

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monkeyshines
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posted 27 February 2005 16:46     Click Here to See the Profile for monkeyshines   Click Here to Email monkeyshines     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If I understood correctly, based on last year I'd say about $4,000 a month was paid on my behalf.

I definitely have lyme. Babesia suspected.

I've been strongly symptomatic 4.5 years. Not sure if I had it much longer and suppressed it.


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arg82
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posted 27 February 2005 18:30     Click Here to See the Profile for arg82   Click Here to Email arg82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, I didn't go indepth with figuring this out, but here's what I came up with:

Per month (all amounts are approximate):

LLMD visit: $350

Travel expenses: $75-100 (including staying over during bad weather)

Rx Meds: $120 (co-pay, not total med. cost)

Supplements: $150

Insurance (COBRA): $300 (would be free if I was able to be in school full-time)

Monthly Nursing Visit (while off IVs): $60

Various testing: $100 (not sure if this is accurate. doesn't include routine labwork covered by insurance)

Last year I was on IV antibiotics for 3 months at about $1000/week. When averaged out over the whole year, that comes to $1000/month.

Other IV supplies: Not sure. Covered 100% by insurance.

Okay, when I add all that up it comes to about $2000/month.

Wow! Thank goodness I have my parents to help me out with these expenses. And I'm really grateful to have my insurance paying for most of my meds and IV supplies! And this year hasn't been that testing-intensive as previous years.

This amount doesn't take into consideration various other expenses that I couldn't approximate, such as special diets I was on for about 6 weeks or lost wages because of being unable to work (I've never been able to work full-time so I'm not sure what I'd be ABLE to make).

I could approximate that I would make a minimum of $1000/month if I were able to work full-time at minimum wage. I'm able to work about 16 hours a month, so that amounts to $900/month in lost wages. That would bring my total to $3000/month. The actual number is probably higher than that, because I'm undoubtedly forgetting some other expenses and there are some things that I just don't know the cost of.

Imagine all the things we could do with all this money we spend on our health-related expenses. I'll take a cruise to somewhere exotic, please!

Peace and healing,
Annie

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posted 27 February 2005 21:59     Click Here to See the Profile for hiker53   Click Here to Email hiker53     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Since on I.V.'s $8,000 per month

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posted 28 February 2005 07:18     Click Here to See the Profile for treepatrol   Click Here to Email treepatrol     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
?
$100.00 to $400.00 a month
wife included now same.

Without good insurance I would be dead or crippled right now.
Insurance pays the bulk.

This dosent include torn cartilage's knee, torn tendons and pain numerous 15 or 20 trips to hospitals wondering what was wrong also dont forget physical therapy knee, mri's etc .

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posted 28 February 2005 11:17     Click Here to See the Profile for cmichaelo   Click Here to Email cmichaelo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been treated for Lyme and Babs since June 2004.

During those 8+ months the total cost for me and the insurance company has averaged around $2,500 per month.

This includes all office visits, all lab tests, special tests such as MRI, LP & SPECT, drugs and supplements.

Michael

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posted 28 February 2005 14:29     Click Here to See the Profile for lymebrat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

For Myself:

Medical (LLMD or other) doctors visits
$$30.00


Specialists, eye, ENT, obgyn, gastro, etc
$35.00

Physical therapy
$15.

Blood tests
$50.

Prescription drugs (antibiotics, pain meds, yeast, seizure meds, antidepressants, etc)
$150.

Supplements (from vitamins to sea salt, etc)
$15.00

First Aid supplies- (examples IV supplies, wrist braces, heating pad, ace bandages, therometer, tweezers, sun tan lotions, etc)
$30.


Tests (example- Xrays, MRI, CAT scans, EKG, EMG, Spinal taps, neuro, cognative)
$150.

Over The Counter medicine (sinus, asprin, Rolaids, Pepto, etc)
$30.00


Equipment (oxygen, eye glasses, wheelchair, blood pressure cuff, hot tub, sauna, cane, wheelchair lifts and ramp, exercise equipment, gym or pool fees, yoga classes, etc)
$30.00

Total monthly expenses $535.00


Loss of wages...$1500. a month


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Lymetoo
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posted 28 February 2005 14:39     Click Here to See the Profile for Lymetoo   Click Here to Email Lymetoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OH.....I have very good insurance. So...my $600 a month is only the co-pay part. I would hate to think what it would be without the insurance.

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lymebrat
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posted 28 February 2005 14:39     Click Here to See the Profile for lymebrat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For my son Derek:

Medical (LLMD or other) doctors visits

$ 70.00

Physical therapy

$30.00

Blood tests

$75.

Prescription drugs (antibiotics, pain meds, yeast, seizure meds, antidepressants, etc)

$350.00

Supplements (from vitamins to sea salt, etc)

$15.

First Aid supplies- (examples IV supplies, wrist braces, heating pad, ace bandages, therometer, tweezers, sun tan lotions, etc)

$15.

Tests (example- Xrays, MRI, CAT scans, EKG, EMG, Spinal taps, neuro, cognative)

$200.00

Over The Counter medicine (sinus, asprin, Rolaids, Pepto, etc)

$30.00


Equipment (oxygen, eye glasses, wheelchair, blood pressure cuff, hot tub, sauna, cane, wheelchair lifts and ramp, exercise equipment, gym or pool fees, yoga classes, etc)

$100.00


Total monthly expenses

$885.00 on the low side...


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posted 28 February 2005 14:44     Click Here to See the Profile for lymebrat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Daughter

Medical (LLMD or other) doctors visits

$70.00

Specialists, eye, ENT, obgyn, gastro, etc

$20.


Blood tests

$75.00

Prescription drugs (antibiotics, pain meds, yeast, seizure meds, antidepressants, etc)

$200.

Supplements (from vitamins to sea salt, etc)

$15.00

First Aid supplies- (examples IV supplies, wrist braces, heating pad, ace bandages, therometer, tweezers, sun tan lotions, etc)
$ 15.00


Tests (example- Xrays, MRI, CAT scans, EKG, EMG, Spinal taps, neuro, cognative)

$20.00


Over The Counter medicine (sinus, asprin, Rolaids, Pepto, etc)

$10.00

Total.... $425.00

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