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brainless
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From: lalaland
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posted 17 May 2005 12:45     Click Here to See the Profile for brainless     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I tried Rife on abx and it didn't work. Now I intend to try it off abx.

What have your experiences been?

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theskyking
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posted 17 May 2005 13:08     Click Here to See the Profile for theskyking   Click Here to Email theskyking     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is typical for antibiotics to greatly lessen rife effectiveness. This is seen time and again. Dozens of people on the Lyme/rife discussion group,

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Lyme-and-rife/

can confirm this.

However, this is not to say that antibiotics should be dropped completely. Antibiotics can be used interspersed throughout a rife treatment protocol and greatly accelerate progress. Doing it this way has several advantages, the most obvious of which is allowing body breaks between using antibiotics. My book has a whole chapter which discusses using antibiotics and rife therapy synergistically.

Obviously, do not discontinue your antibiotics or begin a rife treatment protocol without consulting your physician. I am not a doctor.

Bryan

Lyme/Rife Book
Http://www.lymebook.com

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Lymetoo
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posted 17 May 2005 13:43     Click Here to See the Profile for Lymetoo   Click Here to Email Lymetoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Basically, the abx make the spirochetes go into hiding, and/or go into the cyst form. That makes it harder for the frequencies to kill the keets.

How long have you been on abx, brainless?

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brainless
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posted 17 May 2005 13:51     Click Here to See the Profile for brainless     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm on and off abx for years at a time. This time, I was on abx for about 6 years. The continuing mental decline scares me.

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micul
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posted 17 May 2005 14:04     Click Here to See the Profile for micul   Click Here to Email micul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If rife really did kill keets, then it would still kill keets if someone was taking abx.

Have you ever wondered why there are so many frequencies that are used against Bb? People come up with all these different frequencies either through muscle testing, or patient response (reactions, which are totally subjective). None of them have actually been verified to kill keets through controlled lab conditions, and even if someone could prove that a frequency actually did kill keets in a petri dish, there would be no way to measure how effective it would be in going through body tissue and deep into bone and muscle, and esp the brain.

Rife does seem to do something. What is it doing in reality? Nobody really knows. Some people say they feel better using rife , but is it more because they are getting off abx for a while? A lot of people end up going back on abx because they deteriorate when just trying to use rife. I have also noticed that most people who claim that rife works for them are also using other kinds of therapies and herbal abx like samento/olive leaf/oil of oregano, and so on.

If rife really did work, it would work by itself. It wouldn't need so much help. A lot of people don't get any results even after a few months of rife. They are told that it can take up to a year. That could just be giving the keets a lot of time to proliferate again after real progress had been made on abx.

Don't you ever wonder why the people who claim that rife works are still looking for answers themselves. They are not cured. People do beat lyme on abx. they don't have to continue with treatments, and they aren't still looking for an answer.

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posted 17 May 2005 14:18     Click Here to See the Profile for brainless     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm looking for something to pass the BBB. Oral & IM abx don't do it for me. Hyperbaric oxygen does pass the BBB (for me) but I can't afford it since I left work. I'd like to go on IV because I think long term, extremely aggressive abx do pass the BBB but I can't afford that either. I have the Rife machine so all it will cost me is time. Thanks to Lyme, I have that. As far as I can see, I have nothing to lose by going back on Rife.

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posted 17 May 2005 14:35     Click Here to See the Profile for theskyking   Click Here to Email theskyking     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rife is not a perfect treatment. No one says it is the complete answer. It works for many, does not work for some, and is experimental.

Rife gave me back my life, as it did for many other people.

For some people, these success stories are enough to want to learn more and maybe even try. For other people, this is not enough.

It is a personal decision. To each his own.

Bryan

The Lyme Disease Book http://www.lymebook.com

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posted 17 May 2005 17:04     Click Here to See the Profile for cigi   Click Here to Email cigi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
does anyone know where to buy a rife machine? Are they that expensive. On IV for 5 months and lyme symptoms seems to have subsided, but big time peaking once a month, which shows to me that it's still active and they're not dead. Any danger to rifing?

Just curious and would love to know if this is an alternative.

Thanks,

cigi

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posted 17 May 2005 19:52     Click Here to See the Profile for Lymetoo   Click Here to Email Lymetoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm looking for the Buy/Sell Rife website. Here's one i found: www.royalrife.com/

There's a site for used ones somewhere. Bryan??

Prices begin at around $350

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posted 17 May 2005 20:12     Click Here to See the Profile for theskyking   Click Here to Email theskyking     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.royalrife.com/board/?topic=topic1

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posted 17 May 2005 23:05     Click Here to See the Profile for liz28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please list the abx combinations you have tried, and how long you took them. Abx have changed a lot in the past six years. There may be something new out there for you.

Also, please remember that Lymenet is an open board. There is no medical or commercial review of the information listed here, nor is there an easy way to go through the archives and research others' experiences. If you try anything here and it doesn't work, you will have no legal or financial recourse.

I've tried many traditional and alternative treatments that I read about on Lymenet. Some worked, and some didn't. Some were helpful, but not for Lyme disease.

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