LymeNet Home Page LymeNet Flash Discussion LymeNet Support Group LymeNet Literature Library LymeNet Legal Resources LymeNet Medical & Scientific Abstract Database LymeNet Newsletter Home Page LymeNet Recommended Books LymeNet Tick Pictures Search The LymeNet Site LymeNet Links LymeNet Frequently Asked Questions About The Lyme Disease Network
LymeNet Home

Tax deductable
LymeNet Menu

The Lyme Disease Network receives a commission from Amazon.com for each purchase originating from this site. When purchasing from Amazon.com, please click here first. Thank you.
LymeNet Flash Discussion
Dedicated to the Bachmann Family

The Lyme Disease Network is a non-profit organization funded by individual donations. If you would like to support the Network and the LymeNet system of Web services, please click on the "Make a Donation" button to the left, or send your donations to:
The Lyme Disease Network of New Jersey
43 Winton Road
East Brunswick, NJ 08816 USA
In the United States, your donations are tax deductible.

  LymeNet Flash
  Medical Questions
  The Silver Fraud

Post New Topic  Post A Reply
profile | register | preferences | faq | search

UBBFriend: Email This Page to Someone! next newest topic | next oldest topic
Author Topic:   The Silver Fraud
Martijn
Frequent Contributor

Posts: 360
From: the Netherlands
Registered: Jan 2004

posted 07 July 2005 11:25     Click Here to See the Profile for Martijn   Click Here to Email Martijn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.invive.com/farber.txt

Personal Experience with Lyme Disease and Candida
by:
Dr. Paul Farber

In July of 1992 I was bitten by the Deer Tick (Ixodes
Scapularis) which according to Dr. Thomas Craig, D.V.M. of the
Department of Veterinary Microbiology and Parasitology carries the
Spirochete which is the causative agent of Lyme disease. After my
diagnosis was confirmed a medical doctor, who is a neurologist, put
me first on Penicillin orally for two weeks, and then intravenously
for four weeks. The results to my symptomatology were minimal and
I experienced many side effects including Candida Yeast Infection
because of the penicillin's destructive effect on the friendly
acidophilus bacteria in my stomach and colon . Since this treatment
did not work, the neurologist prescribed a cephalosporin called
Rocephan. Unfortunately, this treatment accomplished no more than
the penicillin, had many unpleasant side effects, and worsened my
candida yeast infection.

Not knowing what to do, or where to go next I was led to a Dr.
Joe from Colorado*. Dr. from Colorado told me that Mild
Silver Protein was helpful against spirochetes and suggested a
regiment to follow. I began with two tablespoons a day for the
first month holding it under the tongue sublingually for a minute,
swishing it around the mouth for ten seconds, and then gargling and
swallowing. I did the same thing for the second and third month,
but only one tablespoon per day.

By the end of the first two weeks my 35 different symptoms,
including extreme pain, paralysis, and numbness were about 25%
relieved with no side effects. By the end of the first month I was
over 50% well. By the end of the second month I was 75% well.
After 3 months of treatment I was 100% well. I have been 100% well
for over 2 years. Was I cured from Lyme disease and candida yeast
infection? In my opinion and the opinion of Dr. Willy Burgdorfer,
Scientist Emeritus who discovered the spirochete as the causative
agent of Lyme disease, and Dr. John Parks Trowbridge, M.D. an
author and expert in the field of candida yeast infection, I
appeared to be CURED.

Dr. Burgdorfer, who became a close friend, then shared with me
that the world would not bel ieve my results without scientific
documentation.

It seems that there is enough testing from universities, and
reports from practitioners that the Mild Silver Protein* not only works
on Lyme disease
but a good deal more bacterial, viral and fungal infections.

IP: Logged

Martijn
Frequent Contributor

Posts: 360
From: the Netherlands
Registered: Jan 2004

posted 07 July 2005 11:26     Click Here to See the Profile for Martijn   Click Here to Email Martijn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.invive.com/burgd.txt

FROM "PENICILLIN TO "MILD SILVER PROTEIN"
AN ANSWER TO LYME DISEASE "WITHOUT ANTIBIOTICS"
By:
Dr. Willy Burgdorfer, Ph.D.
Rocky Mountain Laboratories, Division of N.l.H.

In 1949, Dr. Sven Hellerstrom from the Dermatalogical Clinic
of Karolinska lnstitute in Stockholm, Sweden presented a paper
"Erythema chronicum migrans Afzelius with meningitis" at the 43rd
Annual Meeting of the Southern Medical Association in Cincinnati,
Ohio. In presenting his case, he provided convincing evidence that
both erythema and subsequent meningocerebrospinal symptoms may
develop following a tick bite. He also reported on the successful
treatment of his patient with penicillin, a drug shown previously
by his colleague Dr. Hollstrom to be effective in the treatment of
Erythema chronicum migrans (ECM).

In the United States, ECM was first reported in 1970 on a
physician bitten by a tick while grouse hunting in northeastern
Wisconsin. The attending physician, Dr. Rudolf Scrimenti,
recognized the similarity of the patient's skin reaction to the
lesions of European ECM and promptly and successfully treated the
patient with penicillin. The treatment of three additional
patients with penicillin and of one with erythromycin resulted in
complete resolution of symptoms within 48 to 72 hours.

Considered unrelated to ECM were skin lesions in 13 of 51
residents in the eastern Connecticut towns of Lyme, Old Lyme, and
East Haddam where, since 1972, clusters of inhabitants had been
suffering of an illness characterized by recurrent attacks of
asymmetric swelling and pain in large joints, especially the knee.
Since such arthritic conditions were not known to be associated
with ECM in Europe, the illness was thought to be a new clinical
entity and was named Lyme arthritis, later changed to Lyme disease
once it was realized that arthritis was only one of several
clinical manifestations of this disease.

The search for effective antibiotics in the treatment of Lyme
disease began in 1982 with my discovery of a spirochete now known
as Borrelia burgdorferi as the causative agent of Lyme disease and
of ECM and related disorders (acrodermatitis chronica atrophicans,
lymphadenosis benigna cutis) in Europe. The antibiotics found
effective include tetracyclines (doxycycline, minocycline),
penicillins (penicillin G, amoxycillin), cephalosporins (cefotaxime,
ceftriaxone), and erythromycin. Application of these drugs depends
on the time the disease is being diagnosed. Early Lyme disease is
treated orally whereas late Lyme disease requires parenteral or a
combination of parenteral and oral applications. Treatment
failures have been reported for each of these drugs particularly
for the tetracyclines that are only temporarily effective unless
they are applied over long periods of time, i.e. months even years.

Controversy exists over the length of treatment using
* Mild Silver Protein (MSP). Some investigators consider
21 to 30 days sufficient for the elimination of the spirochetes,
while others believe that patients must be kept on therapy until
they are completely free of symptoms.

The diagnosis of Lyme disease is a clinical one and is based
on the development and recognition of the skin lesion (erythema
migrans) a few days, weeks, or even months, after the bite of an
infected tick. Unfortunately in up to 40% of the patients, the
skin lesion does not develop, is not recognized, or is overlooked.
Thus, without treatment, the disease spreads throughout the body
and may affect the muscular, skeleton, cardiac and nervous systems.

Indeed, Dr. Farber's recent claim having used MSP to
successfully cure himself from late stage Lyme disease, comes at a
time when thousands of patients suffering of this disease are
refused extended antibiotic treatment because their physicians are
unable to associate their clinical manifestations with those of
Lyme disease.

Although never established scientifically, it appears that the
Mild Silver Protein silver colloid disables the enzyme(s) used by
bacterial, fungal and viral agents for their oxygen metabolism
causing them to suffocate upon contact. In vitro studies with
* Mild Silver Protein and the Lyme disease spirochete, B.
burgdorferi, revealed a lOO% killing effect within less than five
minutes after exposure to the silver preparation.

IP: Logged

Martijn
Frequent Contributor

Posts: 360
From: the Netherlands
Registered: Jan 2004

posted 07 July 2005 11:28     Click Here to See the Profile for Martijn   Click Here to Email Martijn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.invive.com/farb2.html

Subject: COLL/AG-40 A SILVER FRAUD
Date: Sep 10 1996

"FRAUD" UPON HUMANITY COMMITTED BY
DR. FARBER & COLL/AG-40

Dr. Farber continues his fraud on the Net, in public
appearances, and on radio talk shows. Dr. Farber and his
fraudlulent statements about his alleged colloidal silver (Coll/Ag-
40) should be put out of business.

1. Fraud outlined in Dr. Farber's book Coll/AG-30

2. Fraud regarding Dr. Farber's alleged non-profitable
endorsement of Coll/AG-40

3. Fraud regarding Dr. Farber's claims for Coll/AG-40

4. Total misleading of the public by Dr. Farber

5. A sham operation by Dr. Farber to extract money from
the compromised unsuspecting public.

Dr. Farber states that he only endorses the Micro Silver
Bullet-Coll/AG-40. Dr. Farber does not state the company is
located in his home town, is owned by his relatives, and is only
a mail drop. But he does state that he makes no money from the
sale of the product, if anyone can believe that one.

Discovery Experimental and Development, Inc. (DEDI), along
with outside concerns, tested a bottle of Dr. Farber's endorsed
product Coll/AG-40, distributed by him or his family, named the
Micro Silver Bullet, 4582 East Kingwood Dr., Suite 240, Kingwood,
Texas 77345. Again, a mail drop in Dr. Farber's home town. The
label on the bottle stated a number, 0067, not designated as a
lot number, and showed an expiration date of 1/98.

Results:

1. The label states the contents as 4 fluid ounces, yet
the container contained 16 ounces. Whoever made up the label
doesn't know measurements.

2. The label states, as does Dr. Farber adamantly on his
Internet Web site, HTTP://pmadt.com/silver-bullet-gold/about.htm,
that the particle size of the silver is certified at .001
microns. Dr. Farber, of course, does not state who certified
that particle size. However, DEDI firmly believes that if anyone
really did check the particle size, they could not have been over
two years of age.

Comparatively speaking, the actual size of Dr. Farber's
alleged .001 micron silver particle would be considered by any
competent scientist, as a boulder of silver. There is as much
truth in the statement by Dr. Farber, or on the Coll/AG-40 label
that the silver particle size is .001 microns, as there is in me
stating that it snowed last July in Miami Beach.

3. The label states, as does Dr. Farber in his web site,
that Coll/AG-40, the Micro Silver bullet contains 40 ppm's. The
testing results revealed 22 ppm and I'll bet if we test the
product next month it will be below 10 ppm's.

4. Testing revealed that Dr. Farber's product Coll/AG-40
is a potentially dangerous product, as preliminary testing
reveals high ion content within the product. Ions are toxic.

5. Dr. Farber's label states that his product is mild
silver protein. If the wrong protein is present, that in itself
could create another toxic danger as many proteins are toxic,
some extremely.

6. Dr. Farber hides the identity of the manufacturer of
his product, a good guess is that its made in a bathtub in
someone's home.

7. Finally, Dr. Farber's revolutionary electro-colloidal
process is impossible. Mild silver protein cannot be made
electrically, although colloidal silver without protein can be.

Originally Dr. Farber contacted Discovery Experimental and
Development, Inc., in Wesley Chapel, Florida (DEDI) in 1994. Dr.
Farber explained that he had Lyme disease and Multiple Sclerosis
and heard that DEDI had developed some products that might help
him with his afflictions. DEDI then released research
information to Dr. Farber regarding products developed by DEDI
along with protocols that were developed regarding his
afflictions. DEDI referred Dr. Farber to another practitioner
that had been successful in treating Dr. Farber's afflictions,
Dr. Cardot at Natrition, Inc., in Arvada, Colorado. Dr. Cardot
explained to Dr. Farber what to use and how to treat his
afflictions. Dr. Cardot had little respect for Dr. Farber as a
practitioner, due to the fact in conversations between them, Dr.
Farber had stated there were flea problems within his environment
and he had no idea fleas can carry deadly diseases. Dr. Farber
had no idea that fleas were carriers of the Bubonic plague.

Dr. Farber adhered to Dr. Cardot's advice and treated
himself successfully using products, for the most part, from
DEDI.

Dr. Farber did arrange some testing of DEDI's Mild Silver
Protein by Dr. Burgdorfer, NIH, and Dr. Henderson at Temple
University. However, as was later learned, Dr. Farber mislead
these scientists conducting these tests by implying DEDI's
product was a product that he discovered and developed when, in
fact, its current uses were discovered by Dr. Cardot years
before, as was the development of a potent, non-toxic, stabilized
form of Mild Silver Protein by DEDI.

Dr. Farber contacted DEDI and presented a plan to market
Coll/Ag-30 and stated he would write a book about his experiences
with mild silver protein. After many conversations during which
Dr. Farber made himself appear to be a legitimate businessman,
DEDI agreed to supply Dr. Farber under contract, DEDI's Mild
Silver Protein at 30 ppm, under his own label, Coll/AG-30 "The
Micro Silver Bullet", for resale.

When Dr. Farber released his book Coll/AG-30, DEDI objected
to it, as it contained an abundance of misleadings and untruths.
DEDI also learned that Dr. Farber set up his business in his
family's name to make it appear as if he was not profiting from
the sale of Coll/Ag-30. This way Dr. Farber could make all kinds
of wild medical claims without government reprisal. When it was
discovered by DEDI that Dr. Farber was selling his Coll/AG-30 for
$17.00 above DEDI's list price for the Mild Silver Protein
product, while receiving people's money without delivering the
product, DEDI abruptly cancelled Dr. Farber's contract to supply
him "any" products.

Dr. Farber was not happy that his afflictions seemed to be
corrected, and at no cost to him. Dr. Farber shunned the people
that helped him, demanded notoriety and money, claiming he was
the discoverer of the product and its cures. In fact, Dr. Farber
discovered nothing, and obtained all the information from others.

From there Dr. Farber contacted, at random, many people with
dubious reputations producing silver solutions so as to continue
his scheme of fleecing the public with total disregard for the
health and welfare of already compromised U.S. citizens.

DEDI was sent a 16 oz. bottle of Coll/AG-40-The Micro Silver
Bullet purchased for $160.00 from the address on the bottle.
After testing by DEDI and one university, it was determined that
due to the large particle size, the contaminants, and instability
of the product, anyone could manufacture Dr. Farber's 16 ozs. of
silver water for about one dollar.

Further testing is currently underway on Dr. Farber's sham
product, and claims, by DEDI and outside concerns.

Testing has been ongoing regarding colloidal silver
compounds by DEDI and outside testing facilities, so as to not
create any bias of DEDI's testing results. To date all colloidal
silver suspensions, other than one, have shown to either be a
sham, potentially dangerous, and toxic, or totally unstable.

It's incredible what lengths people will go to, to cheat
and steal money from people with debilitating diseases.


James T. Kimball, President
Discovery Experimental & Development, Inc.

IP: Logged

brentb
Frequent Contributor

Posts: 149
From: Humble,TX
Registered: Feb 2005

posted 07 July 2005 14:10     Click Here to See the Profile for brentb   Click Here to Email brentb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sounds like it's against his product not Silver in general. It's ability to fight pathogens are FACT. examples

Silver sulfadiazine is the most powerful compound for burn treatments. It is used by every hospital in North America for burn victims to kill bacteria and allow the body to naturally restore the burn area. It is used world-wide. It is sold under the trade name of Silvadiene. In another application polyurethane central venus catheters impregnated with silver sulfadiazine and chlorhexidine to eliminate catheter-related bacteriemia are supplied by Arrow International, Reading, PA.

IP: Logged

Ann-OH
Frequent Contributor

Posts: 2262
From: Ohio
Registered: Jan 2002

posted 07 July 2005 14:28     Click Here to See the Profile for Ann-OH   Click Here to Email Ann-OH     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dr. Paul Farber was murdered on November 13,1998. (This is according to his brother in a review of his book published by Amazon.com.)

I don't agree that silver is the cure for anything, but reading this makes it sound like Farber is still publishing and that this article is current. I believe most of this was published before Farber's death.

I think it is a good idea to document article like this as to what year it was written. There are lots of websites that publish stuff never saying the date of publication, but when available, we should always supply that info.

Ann - OH

IP: Logged

Joe Ham
Frequent Contributor

Posts: 119
From: Silver City, New Mexico
Registered: Jun 2004

posted 07 July 2005 14:32     Click Here to See the Profile for Joe Ham   Click Here to Email Joe Ham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Brent,
Could you please explain the difference between colloidal silver (the element) versus silver sulfadiazine (a compound)?

Would you also please explain the difference in pharmacokenetics and pharmacodynamics between internal versus external application?

IP: Logged

Martijn
Frequent Contributor

Posts: 360
From: the Netherlands
Registered: Jan 2004

posted 07 July 2005 14:43     Click Here to See the Profile for Martijn   Click Here to Email Martijn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The third article is dated: Sep 10 1996, the other two are probably a few years older.

I know Dr. Farber is dead, but his book "The Micro Silver Bullet" is well known and still being sold and praised.

quote:
Originally posted by Ann-OH:
Dr. Paul Farber was murdered on November 13,1998. (This is according to his brother in a review of his book published by Amazon.com.)

I don't agree that silver is the cure for anything, but reading this makes it sound like Farber is still publishing and that this article is current. I believe most of this was published before Farber's death.

I think it is a good idea to document article like this as to what year it was written. There are lots of websites that publish stuff never saying the date of publication, but when available, we should always supply that info.

Ann - OH


IP: Logged

brentb
Frequent Contributor

Posts: 149
From: Humble,TX
Registered: Feb 2005

posted 07 July 2005 14:56     Click Here to See the Profile for brentb   Click Here to Email brentb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Joe Ham:
Brent,
Could you please explain the difference between colloidal silver (the element) versus silver sulfadiazine (a compound)?

Would you also please explain the difference in pharmacokenetics and pharmacodynamics between internal versus external application?



Yes one is a compound and the other a element. They both work.

If your trying to state that just because it works topically that does not mean it works internally point taken. Although pubmed articles point out that it works internally also.

How much do you think the government should spend to find out if it does? Stem cell research is 30 billion. The potential of silver far outweighs that of stem cell.

IP: Logged

brentb
Frequent Contributor

Posts: 149
From: Humble,TX
Registered: Feb 2005

posted 07 July 2005 15:09     Click Here to See the Profile for brentb   Click Here to Email brentb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ann-OH:

I don't agree that silver is the cure for anything
Ann - OH

and I think it's a cure for almost all diseases. Disease is either genetic, nutritional deficiency, or pathogen related.

The reason imo on why it doesn't work is people are not taking it correctly or have a product that does not work. Hospitals are already SECRETLY using it to combat infections. matter of time.

IP: Logged

mimi
Frequent Contributor

Posts: 136
From: usa
Registered: Dec 2004

posted 07 July 2005 20:50     Click Here to See the Profile for mimi   Click Here to Email mimi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Brentb I bekieve in Silver because for 5 years I drank at least 4oz per day because I was sick but nobody knew why I only knew that if I drank the silver I was better than if I didn't. But when I got really sick I was spending ALL of my money each month on silver. What brand/type do you think is the best and what is the dosage. Yes hospitals are using it and have for awhile now
Thanks for your help

IP: Logged

Joe Ham
Frequent Contributor

Posts: 119
From: Silver City, New Mexico
Registered: Jun 2004

posted 07 July 2005 21:08     Click Here to See the Profile for Joe Ham   Click Here to Email Joe Ham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by brentb:

If your trying to state that just because it works topically that does not mean it works internally point taken. Although pubmed articles point out that it works internally also.


Could you post some links to the PubMed articles, please?

IP: Logged

janet thomas
Frequent Contributor

Posts: 1232
From: NJ
Registered: Mar 2005

posted 07 July 2005 21:12     Click Here to See the Profile for janet thomas   Click Here to Email janet thomas     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From above:

4. Testing revealed that Dr. Farber's product Coll/AG-40
is a potentially dangerous product, as preliminary testing
reveals high ion content within the product. Ions are toxic.

IONS are toxic? When you mix salt and water do you not create an ionic solution of Na+ (sodium) and Cl- (chloride) ions? I'll drink those toxic ions anyday.

However, I wouldn't drink a solution of a heavy metal, silver.

[This message has been edited by janet thomas (edited 07 July 2005).]

IP: Logged

brentb
Frequent Contributor

Posts: 149
From: Humble,TX
Registered: Feb 2005

posted 07 July 2005 21:25     Click Here to See the Profile for brentb   Click Here to Email brentb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Joe Ham:
Could you post some links to the PubMed articles, please?

all right here's something

Antibacterial efficacy of a colloidal silver complex.

Brentano L, Margraf H, Monafo WW, Moyer CA.

PMID: 5922198 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Now can you answer my question

How much do you feel the government should be spending?

IP: Logged

Martijn
Frequent Contributor

Posts: 360
From: the Netherlands
Registered: Jan 2004

posted 07 July 2005 21:35     Click Here to See the Profile for Martijn   Click Here to Email Martijn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by janet thomas:
IONS are toxic? When you mix salt and water do you not create an ionic solution of Na+ (sodium) and Cl- (chloride) ions? I'll drink those toxic ions anyday.

However, I wouldn't drink a solution of a heavy metal, silver.



He meant silver ions, not ions in general.

IP: Logged

Charles05
Frequent Contributor

Posts: 210
From: Greenwich, CT USA
Registered: Jun 2005

posted 07 July 2005 21:40     Click Here to See the Profile for Charles05     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Silver turns you gray.. No way I would take that stuff, even the FDA said it does nothing.


IP: Logged

brentb
Frequent Contributor

Posts: 149
From: Humble,TX
Registered: Feb 2005

posted 07 July 2005 21:50     Click Here to See the Profile for brentb   Click Here to Email brentb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by janet thomas:
From above:


However, I wouldn't drink a solution of a heavy metal, silver.

[This message has been edited by janet thomas (edited 07 July 2005).]


"There is a tendency, unsupported by the facts, to assume that all so-called “heavy metals” and their compounds have highly toxic or ecotoxic properties. This has no basis in chemical or toxicological data. Thus, the term “heavy metals” is both meaningless and misleading."

- John H. Duffus, The Edinburgh Centre for Toxicology, Scotland, "Pure and Applied Chemistry" 74, 793–807

IP: Logged

brentb
Frequent Contributor

Posts: 149
From: Humble,TX
Registered: Feb 2005

posted 07 July 2005 22:03     Click Here to See the Profile for brentb   Click Here to Email brentb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Charles05:
Silver turns you gray.. No way I would take that stuff, even the FDA said it does nothing.


Chuck I presume.
The FDA says it's not safe but ENTIRE COUNTRIES are purifying their water supply with the stuff. The FDA says what BigPharma tells them to say.

IP: Logged

brentb
Frequent Contributor

Posts: 149
From: Humble,TX
Registered: Feb 2005

posted 07 July 2005 22:19     Click Here to See the Profile for brentb   Click Here to Email brentb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mimi:
What brand/type do you think is the best and what is the dosage.
Thanks for your help

I don't have an opinion as to the best brand.
My doctor gave me silver wings. They have 250 and 500 ppm products. Start slow (1/2 teaspoon maybe) The herx is as real on silver as traditional abx. You kind of have to feel your way to a proper dosage. Mine is about a tablespoon throughout the day, taken orally and through my sinuses. BUT, I'm a big guy and have a very difficult disease/infection to beat. It's about $54 per 32 oz bottle so compared to prescribed meds it's pretty darn cheap. dont forget the water,diet, and exercise.
best of luck

IP: Logged

Martijn
Frequent Contributor

Posts: 360
From: the Netherlands
Registered: Jan 2004

posted 23 July 2005 23:19     Click Here to See the Profile for Martijn   Click Here to Email Martijn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^
up

IP: Logged

pq
Frequent Contributor

Posts: 900
From:
Registered: Feb 2005

posted 24 July 2005 01:07     Click Here to See the Profile for pq     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote


for a definition of what MSP is, and its purpose in research, see a hard copy of the Merck Index, something, i don't recall having seen mentioned on these sites, and literature that sell MSP, or other forms of silver when they are doing "comparative analyses" of their product vs. MSP or other products.

A convenient omission of a well respected source.

IP: Logged

All times are ET (US)

next newest topic | next oldest topic

Administrative Options: Close Topic | Archive/Move | Delete Topic
Post New Topic  Post A Reply
Hop to:

Contact Us | LymeNet Home Page | Privacy Statement

Powered by Infopop www.infopop.com © 2000
Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.46a


Home | Flash Discussion | Support Groups | On-Line Library
Legal Resources | Medical Abstracts | Newsletter | Books
Pictures | Site Search | Links | Help/Questions
About LymeNet | Webmaster


© 1994-2005 The Lyme Disease Network of New Jersey, Inc.
All Rights Reserved.
Use of the LymeNet Site is subject to the Terms and Conditions.