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renny1985
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I don't know if this is Lyme related or if anyone knows about these issues... the doctor scared the poo out of me with it though.
My doc ran some blood tests that showed a few things of concern.

1) Prothrombin Antibodies, IgM were high at 34 (range 0-20)

2) Anticardiolipin Ab, IgM, Qn was high at >150 (range 0-12)

3) Two genetic mutations C677T and A1298C identified- the MTHFR enzymes- leading to higher chance of heart disease, miscarriages, strokes, etc.

4) I had a PICC line in for IV infusions and they pulled it out today and it had several clots on it.

The doctor advised I go off birth control and notify my GYN and get a hematologist. I am not sure what to do.

If anyone out there is knowledgeable on these topics... any thoughts ideas or calming words would be helpful [Smile]
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i have the Factor V (5) Liedum... a genetic clotting disorder. I just take precautions such as enzymes to help prevent fibrin buildup and a baby asprin a day.

While on I.V. I had to do Lovenox shots.

Yes, you have to stop BC pills.

Now that you know, you'll be aware and take necessary action.

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renny1985
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Thanks dmc. I am really scared because I want to have babies and the doc sorta told me over and over that I have a high chance of miscarriages.

I think the thing I have and the Factor V are very similar.. though no sure. No one in my fam has ever had any problems.

Thanks for your reply.
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My doc has run some clotting tests on me. Mine were also abnormal. Although I don't remember now how out of range mine were. I didn't have any gene testing though. I don't think.

Anyhow...my doc put me on Nattokinase (an enzyme) and my tests have so far been fine since.

So I agree with DMC about the enzymes. They really can work to thin out the blood.

[ 10-26-2010, 08:45 PM: Message edited by: Pam08 ]

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Look up Amy Yasko's website for info on the MRTHFR mutations. Also Terry K (and a little from me as well) has posted some excellent stuff on here about it.

My mom had 2 miscarriages and when I got clots w/ my PICC, my awesome LLMD immediately tested me for it. There are specific supplements you can take to help override that particular mutation. Sorry, I can't comment on the others- don't know much about them.

If your doc and you ever want to try IV ABX again, you may want to consider coumadin prophylaxis (that's what I'll have to do if I ever go back on IVs).

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Just wanted you to know that you can have successful pregnancies, even with the clotting problems. so just wanted you to relax about that!

I have the two MTHFR genetic mutations and also antiphospholipid antibodies and am on heparin and baby aspirin when pregnant to prevent blood clotting. Many are successful with this therapy during a pregnancy. It is good that you know ahead of time, most women have to find out the hard way, after many miscarriages.

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Wow, thanks everyone I feel a lot better. I am 25 and planning on having children in the next ten years. Knowing that I can be okay with this gene mutation is very helpful. The doc really scared me and didn't tell me I would be OK.

So thank you.

Also, spoke to GYN today and she said to go off NuvaRing and to take aspirin daily. Do you think baby aspirin is enough? I dont want to cause an ulcer.

I still need to get treated for lyme. Thank gosh the meds made me so sick and I decided to quit and get my line pulled. Phew! But I still need treatment... my stomach sucks so orals are hard, now I have clotting issue so IV is hard! OY!

Thank goodness for this board.
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I have a serious genetic blood clotting disorder, Protein S. I had two healthy boys before I started miscarrying. All this was before I even knew.

I did lose two PICC lines to clots, and also got three more clots from hep locks. I am about to get a port, but am now on Coumadin.

I'm not worried about it. I hate the Coumadin because it's impossible to stay therapeutic with all my meds. In this past week, my levels have gone from 13.1 to 1.6. But otherwise, it's not that big of a deal. All the clots occurred when I was not on any blood thinners.

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I should rephrase that: they weren't healthy, they had congenital lyme. But there were no issues due to blood clots!

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I had hypercoagulation and used heparin therapy for a few years. I should be taking enzymes but am not doing so right now.

Many who are trying to conceive and have clotting issues do use heparin to help them.

Also look into Boluoke, the best brand of lumbrokinase.

It is possible that once you are treated, the clotting problems will improve. The anticardiolipin antibodies can also improve... mine went back to normal after treatment for Lyme & Co.

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renny1985
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Wow thanks.

So wait, I know the genetic thing is not related to lyme, but the anticardiolipin issue and the prothrombin are/can be?

I am so confused!

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