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I've heard alot of members talk about detoxing, or going through pain while detoxing.
What exactly is the detoxing process? Does this refer to the supplements I am taking, or the antibiotics I am using to kill the Lyme and co-infections?
I'd like to make sure that I understand what it is.
Thank you!
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Detoxing is short for the word "detoxifying." It refers to the process of getting rid of the toxins (poisons) that are produced when the medications kill the lyme and other disease germs.
Ways of detoxifying include drinking lots of water with lemon in it, dry skin brushing, jumping on a rebounder, massage, sauna. Also, some patients are given "binders" that pull toxins (especially heavy metals) out of their bodies by catching them in the intestines and taking them out in the stool.
When the medications make you feel worse, that is due to the build-up of toxins in your body. This is also called a Herxheimer reaction or "herx" for short. The detoxifying methods help your body get rid of these toxins quicker and shorten the time you herx (feel so bad).
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If you do a search on "detox" here using the search function you will get a pretty good education about the various ways you can detox. Well worth it! My favorite detox is the epsom salt and hydrogen peroxide bath.
But there's many, many more ways to detox and it's very important that we do this otherwise you will suffer far more pain until you detox those toxins and poisons out of your body.
Springshowers started a great detox thread here some months ago. Check it out.
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I heard that you can detox by doing the same with a foot bath during the day too? Is this true?
I found epson salts with lavendar and chamomille in CVS and now I am in love with these baths and they do not dry the skin as badly as the regular salts.
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Detoxing can mean a lot of things, and there are many ways to do it. The same detox technique doesn't work for everyone, and that's what's tricky in my opinion.
For an example even though I was taking "detox supplements" and "food for detox", I was never truly detoxing. It wasn't until I addressed my methylation cycle with a few specific active B vitamins before and heavy metals I truly started detoxing.
For me, detoxification felt great, and I finally have my detox cycle running on its own without much needed support. The difference was night and day for me. It helped a lot with the anxiety I acquired with this disease, hypoglycemic episodes (documented with labs), chemical sensitivity, fatigue, seizure-like feelings and/or activity, light sensitivity, noise sensitivity, and I could finally sleep.
It's easy to be skeptic, and detox sounds a bit voodoo to some, but if you are as toxic as me, and encounter the benefits of powerful, true detox, it's not possible to remain skeptic.
I am now one that will scream how important detox is. Biotoxins are very real for many, and if you have them, they need to be addressed.
A side effect of proper detox when you are very toxic can be weight gain. I gained an unwanted 30 pounds. Most people associate detox with weight loss, but I think this is generally false. If your body is expelling lots of toxins, it's likely you'll start seeing something that resembles metabolic syndrome.
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Ridding yourself of toxins
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- LIVER SUPPORT is vital but not always the same thing as "detoxing" so be sure to cover all the bases. Milk Thistle is the most common supplement to help nourish and protect the liver.
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You detox through your organs - skin, liver, lymphs, kidneys, etc.
My LLND describes detox as a three part process:
1. Opening up the detox pathways (Burbur, Pekana Detox, K-drain are examples)
2. Pulling the toxins out (sauna, colonics, enemas are examples)
3. Binding up the toxins so they can be carried out of the body (chlorella, cholestyramine, clay, zeolite, charcoal, etc.
So, in order to detox well, you need to be taking care of all three area.
I saw a good youtube recently called "Lyme disease and detoxification."
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That is a great video -thanks 4seasons! She mentions a supplement I have never heard of called chitosan... anyone heard of it? Going to do a search now.
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I couldn't view the video because my server is too slow but I think she mentions MMS, miracle mineral supplement. I have read that this is chlorine and dangerous. Don't know what others think.
My favorite detox supplement is alpha lipoid acid which is a powerful antioxidant that also binds with heavy metals to remove them from your body. People with pain from neuropathy (diabetics in particular) benefit from it.
Alpha lipoid acid is very beneficial to the liver. It is given in emergency rooms to bind with and clear out some types of poison. It is often supplemented with acetyl l carnitine.
IV glutathione is the best when you are overwhelmed. Burrascano says the patient can sometimes experience relief in minutes. It is not very effective taken orally but sublingual is ok. There are precursors to it like DL methionine and cysteine.
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I agree that I've heard that glutathione is the single best thing for detox. This is why:
The neuro-toxins produced by Lyme are fat-soluble. The only way to get something fat soluble out of your body is to bind it (chlorella, cholestyramine, etc.) - or to convert it being water soluble. That is what glutathione does.
If you don't do IV you can take oral glutathione. However, people with sulphur allergies or issues don't do well with glutathione.
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nefferdun - I didn't hear her mention MMS in the video... I agree that one is controversial and potentially dangerous from what I have read. I have decided to stay away from using it.
ALA has risks too. I recently started doing a lot of reading on chelation for both myself and my son are having heavy metal issues.
I have hesitated posting my findings on ALA because I am sure it will stir up controversy as it is one of the required supplements in Dr. B's guidelines.
My notes from research (link below notes)
ALA has been found to effectively chelate mercury. LA will cross the blood-brain barrier, and so it can move mercury out of or into the brain.
ALA should not be used if there has been recent mercury exposure (within 3 months) or if you have high copper levels, since LA reduces copper excretion.
ALA must be given in small, frequent doses (every 3-4 hours, even at night) over several days to be effective. Infrequent dosage will just stir up the mercury and redistribute it in the body, making you sicker.
---these notes are from files in the Autism-Mercury support group at yahoo
I agree with glutathione being needed for the liver to detox properly - this must be liposomal glutathione.
Also, those who are having issue with low glutathione should consider that zinc is necessary for the production of glutathione. So if you are glutathione deficient it may be because you are zinc deficient. If you are zinc deficient you need to treat HPU/KPU!
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