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Keeb.. Did you intend to put this info on a thread about yeast?
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- Yes.
As I read it, the article seems to say that by ingesting so many foods treated with RoundUp (or taking it into our bodies in other ways) - it's harder for the gut to manage its internal balance.
Did I not read the article correctly (?) as it sure seems connected to yeast infections to me but I'm so dizzy all the time that I'm not always sure I see things right.
But this quote seems to say it all:
"The researchers stated that "A reduction of beneficial bacteria in the gastrointestinal tract microbiota by ingestion of glyphosate could disturb the normal gut bacterial community." (end excerpt). -
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Hi Cmomlq: I did not have a stench in the nose but definitely burning on my tongue that increased greatly with carb intake. I would have to say, I wonder on the other question you have. As it seems that until I got candida under control, lyme was much easier to beat as well as babesia. And before that... I had tried for years. So I think you might be on to something there...
Have you heard of the gaps diet-- that helped me immensely, heal the gut (seal it as I had leaky gut I think from yeast) and kill the yeast- you basically starve it on this diet and eat good probiotics that help replenish the good bacteria. That was a huge turning point for me...
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LOVE this post! It dawned on me yesterday that I'm feeling the yeast again since back on abx. I was on a break for over a month, treating parasites and feeling not as sick until a major herx with salt/c. I restarted abx thinking I need to follow my doctor's orders. Now I can feel the itchiness, more aching, depression, worse fatigue, terrible brain fog, etc. I've been panicking wondering what should I do... Is it a herx, is it the laser, is it from abx, etc. You know how our mind goes crazy trying to figure out what the heck is going on with us and what we should do. Then YEAST came strongly to my mind. Thank you for this post!
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Gee, interesting but a lot to process.. To get an rx or try natural and diet.. or both?
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phyl.. Personally, natural has never worked for me. DEFINITELY do the diet.. a MUST .. and ask for Nystatin and some Diflucan.
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Why don't drs recognize yeast?
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randi, my guess is because it is not taught in med school. You know, they only believe it exists if it is taught to them.
It takes personal experience to change that. My dentist believes in yeast and tells his patients to take probiotics any time he gives them an Rx for antibiotics. He recognizes yeast in the mouth and sells probiotic losenges to combat it.
His father died of c diff. I think that is what taught him.
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I pulled up this oldie-but-goodie thread because I m researching Candida, which I now have.
I have been taking nystatin and I pulse flagyl on weekends.
I just got new script for difiucan.
Has anyone taken these together ?
Should I go off antibiotics totally till I get yeast under control ?
I also take 3 probiotics 2x a day purchased from LLMD office.
P.S. I make my detox and antioxidant nutrabullet shake every morning with cilantro, garlic, carrot, ginger, Apple, blueberry, orange juice, spinach, and water. Apparently, fruit is a big No No ?
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Fruit contains fruit sugar so it feeds yeast. Orange juice is a lot of sugar for sure.
Bread, crackers, pasta, potatoes, cereal, etc. all turn into sugar as they are digested, so none of these are allowed either.
Basically, you can eat meat and all non-starchy vegetables and that is it. (Plus eggs, nuts, seeds, and dairy.) So, you can eat quinoa since it is a seed. Substitute it for rice or pasta.
See pages 34-5 of Burrascano for the proper diet.
You can eat all the lemons, limes, and grapefruit that you want.
Flagyl will cause candida, period.
Also, note Burrascano's flagyl precautions on page 15.
If you can see the candida in your mouth, then cleanse your mouth as per Burrascano p. 34. You can use peroxide and water to do the cleanse. Half water and half peroxide.
Be sure to open a probiotic capsule and sprinkle it in your mouth after the cleanse and rinse with water. Let the probiotic remain on your tongue until it totally dissolves. That could take 20 minutes or more.
The idea is to kill the candida in the mouth because otherwise it goes into the stomach with each swallow.
After killing it in the mouth, it will be the first to grow back, so you sprinkle with the probiotic to encourage those flora to grow right away.
As long as you are on flagyl, you can't cheat on the diet one single bit. And be sure there is no alcohol in any mouthwash, etc. that you use. This could cause a horrible reaction like antabuse. See it discussed on p. 15.
Candida symptoms can make you as sick as lyme and company. So, try to keep it under control as much as possible while you are treating.
If it gets too out of hand, the doc may stop your treatment to treat it. Hope you don't have to do that. Most lyme docs try to keep it under control as they treat you. It can be tough once you get it, so it is best to avoid getting it at all.
That said, it is hard to avoid getting it while on flagyl.
Burrascano says to drink some kefir (plain, unsweetened) daily. My lyme doc had me do that. It is a great probiotic. My doc also had me make fermented cabbage as in the Body Ecology Diet. I had to eat a few spoonfuls of that daily also.
These are other types of probiotics that will help maintain/restore your gut flora.
Keep a tight rein on this as best you can.
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You can take diflucan daily to try to kill off the yeast. You can take it along with your antibiotics. I don't know but I think I would stop the nystatin while taking the diflucan.
I hope your nystatin is the pills. If it is a liquid, that is NOT sugar free.
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