lpkayak
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is it liver? i have been getting pains there that are increasing every day...esp at night
i haven't been eating right...no money right now...and idon't have a gall bladdr
and i think my lymph nodes are in trouble cuz it feels like i am lying on golf balls
but the sharp pains like stabbing under my left ribs is getting worse
i'm sort of thinking about heart too
that has been tested a lot with no problems showing up
never had bad liver test either...but this pain is new and getting worse
thanks
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lpkayak
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oh shoot-i just googled it. its the pancreas...right?
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I think the spleen, kidney, urether, bowel.
Are you on abx - if you have a lot of die-off it can be too much for the spleen, a spleen can rupture. Drink a lot of good water in case it is pain from the kidney.
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Ipkayak - it's the Spleen. I had looked it up because I've had mild pain there off and on for the last month or so. Nothing as bad as you seem to have. I have read that swelling of the spleen is not always a serious problem, but if it is painful it could be so it's important to get it checked out for sure.
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PS i just pm'ed you with a question on plaquenil?
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lpkayak
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i've been txing babs for awhile too
that fits right?
i'm so weary of going to er etc and them not having clue
i do't like r trust my llmd right now
i do have a new primary and i am close to hosp
maybe it is a wakeup call to eat right even if i have to borrow to do it
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Spleen pain from my experience. My spleen on left, my liver and gall bladder on right side years ago especially during abx years screamed daily at me to help them.
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The pancreas sits between the backbone and the stomach under the ribs. When it is inflamed there can be sharp pains shooting into your rib area. The liver and gallbladder on on the right.
Do not drink alcohol (which you shouldn't be doing anyway). You are right about diet. Not good to eat fat either. Eat chicken without skin and more plant based protein. Lots of vegetables are cleansing.
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lululymemom
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quote:Originally posted by lpkayak: i've been txing babs for awhile too
that fits right?
i'm so weary of going to er etc and them not having clue
i do't like r trust my llmd right now
i do have a new primary and i am close to hosp
maybe it is a wakeup call to eat right even if i have to borrow to do it
Yes, when my daughter was treating babs, her spleen became very tender and sore.. It eventually resolved.
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karenl
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If your spleen is not able to process so many dead blood cells you might consider a break and go off meds till the pain is better.
A spleen can rupture, so be careful with a overload of die-off.
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map1131
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karen, I thought I remembered the spleen does alot of detoxong for the body also. Helps immune system, is that correct?
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My spleen pain went away with Pekana homeopathics. It was severe.
They recommend three different products for spleen detox (I believe one is for the liver, one for the kidneys, and the other for spleen, but I'm not positive). It worked GREAT for me. Amazingly great!!
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Hi lpkayak
Here's one site that will show you everything!
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lpkayak
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thanks all. i am behaving my self and there is a definite lessening of pain
this time it kinda snuck up on me. in the past when i had bad gi pain i would switch over to brown rice veggies and boiled chic for all meals and get straightened out righ away. i haven't gone that far yet but already see improvement
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I had an ultra sounds because of all the pain there and it was impacted bowel. How are you doing on probiotics? It disappeared after I had a couple of colonics and a colonoscopy prep. ; P
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lpkayak
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thanks peace. i'm pretty regular and doin g a lot of probiotics...
but i will keep it in mnd
i think i am getting better bt then not sure
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does it get worse when you lie down?
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Spleen
from either babs or bart
I treated Bart and this got better
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lpkayak
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that doesn't necessrily get worse lyig down or ny other way. i mean-i never know when it will be bad or not so bad
when i lie own i still feel golfball size lumps bumping up against my ribs from the inside
i guess they are lymph gland but not sure
1st catscan showed problem and ordered another one in 6 weeks
i started buhner herbs and the lumps went away for 3 yrs. now they are back. 2nd catscan just showed notheing. but i sure fel them. someime i even feel them when i am standing
they
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lpk,
You took red root? Do you still take it/
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lpkayak
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the red root seemed to help get rid of the lumps for 3 yrs
the it didn't help anymore
i have thought of starting it up again-just the red root--not the rs of the buhner herbs-but i haven't yet
my life has been really crazy cuz cognitive down
it would be prett y east tho...do you think i should? when the herbs work they work so fast and it is so clear that is what is helppiing me
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Enlarged lymph nodes can lead to an enlarged spleen from lymph not draining right. Please see a doctor. Your spleen should feel like a thumb sized lump if you feel under left ribs. Any bigger means its inflamed. Could also be stomach or colon because your eating habits have changed.
Hope this helps, Lindsay
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