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triathletelymie
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I think that bartonella is a big part of my problem. I have thought it all along, as I am mostly/all neuro. Cipro seemed to help...I was improving while on it. It was the only drug that rendered me ANY improvement what-so-ever. But...I got tendonitis in both Achilles tendons from it and my LLMD will not put me back on any fluoroquinolones because of the fear that it will return.

I have also tried rifampin. While it didn't really help at all, I can't take that either due to it always skyrocketing my liver enzymes. Am I out of options to hit bart? My LLMD gave me A-Bart at my last appointment and will be trying that shortly...

I am worried that I am out of options...

Thanks all!

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10/09 symptoms, 4/10 diagnosed, after 6 mos. ER visits, tons of docs/tests
CDC+ 23/39/41/45/58/66/93
currently on oral plaquenil, doryx, rifampin, pyrazinamide, nystatin, numerous supplements

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bactrim?
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I thnk she tried bactrim as indicated in her sig

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What about Factive? A quinolone, yes. But newer and with less side effects. Most take it 4 days on 3 off.

Else there are the heavy duty mycins (clindamycin?) Which are very hard on the ears, etc.

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2/10 symptoms began
5/10 dx'd, after 3 months numerous test and doctors

IgM Igenex +/CDC +
+ 23/25, 30, 31, 34, 41, 83/93

Currently on:

Currently at around 95% +/- most days.

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Also rifabutin which os a newer Rifampin that is easier on the liver

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Bite date ?
2/10 symptoms began
5/10 dx'd, after 3 months numerous test and doctors

IgM Igenex +/CDC +
+ 23/25, 30, 31, 34, 41, 83/93

Currently on:

Currently at around 95% +/- most days.

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Try the A-Bart. It'll help. Ramp up slooowly.
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I've heard that minocycline and zith together can have some impact on bartonella.. Not 100% positive if that's true, but I've heard it.

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triathletelymie
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Thanks everyone!

nanaaaaa - Yes, Kramberry is right, I tried bactrim...still on it actually.

jackie...and anyone else...anyone know if A-bart will totally eradicate bart...or just help with symptoms?

Anyone else?

[ 10-24-2011, 01:11 PM: Message edited by: triathletelymie ]

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? date of bite/no rash
10/09 symptoms, 4/10 diagnosed, after 6 mos. ER visits, tons of docs/tests
CDC+ 23/39/41/45/58/66/93
currently on oral plaquenil, doryx, rifampin, pyrazinamide, nystatin, numerous supplements

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Were you taking tons of milk thistle while on Rifampin before?

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Yes, my doctor uses minocycline with azith.
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triathletelymie
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Julie - Yes, I was. But...perhaps not enough...but...the rifampin wasn't really helping anyway. The only thing that has even remotely caused me any improvement what-so-ever, even if ever so minor, was cipro.

Lala - Did that combo work?

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? date of bite/no rash
10/09 symptoms, 4/10 diagnosed, after 6 mos. ER visits, tons of docs/tests
CDC+ 23/39/41/45/58/66/93
currently on oral plaquenil, doryx, rifampin, pyrazinamide, nystatin, numerous supplements

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triathletelymie
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? date of bite/no rash
10/09 symptoms, 4/10 diagnosed, after 6 mos. ER visits, tons of docs/tests
CDC+ 23/39/41/45/58/66/93
currently on oral plaquenil, doryx, rifampin, pyrazinamide, nystatin, numerous supplements

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ABart is an herbal product but works well.

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Dxd ALS 3/2010
Dxd cllinical Lyme 4/2010
Positive for Protomyxzoa but absolutely nothing else in Igenex

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A-Bart helped tremendously to eliminate bartonella symptoms. It took about 3 months and I was herxing like hell in the beginning.

Does it eradicate bartonella completely? who knows,
I was previously on Cipro for 6 months and thought my bartonella was gone,but it came back after I've treated babesia.

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My rife machine works on my Bart.

My PE-1 works on my Bart.

There are threads here for both of those.

Thank heavens we have these options! I would refuse to take those drugs you named. There ARE OTHER OPTIONS , THANK GOODNESS!

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