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Annie C
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Find it Now. Do Not Miss This. I was watching it simply it was a New one. Then 45min into it they discovered Lyme and how it is effecting humans in the 21st Century [bonk] test...

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Annie C
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Everything I have Written below is a Day Dreamers happy hour. I will enjoy this Happy Hour in fact I Dub Oct. 26 the First Birth of Happy hour... 9 pm EST or which ever hour you want

This is the part Im refering to as written below Getting hit on the Head Test will be in reverse order. We get to test the Dr and if it takes 5 or more Wacks leave smilling it puts you to the head of the Lyme line. That Dr will pay for our test. Using his Ins.

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Crap! I missed it!

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8man12
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I missed it, where was the testing done?

Thanks.

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Razzle
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I just set up to record it so I don't miss it, then came here and noticed this thread.

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I just saw it. Wow that was trippy!! I mean they found DNA of the bacteria that causes Lyme Disease in his bone marrow!

Now I'm wondering if we were to get a bone marrow biopsy then we would know for sure if we have Lyme! But on second thought forget it, that procedure is VERY PAINFUL!! Shudder...

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Howdy do Annie C! Missed the show, but miss seeing you more!

[Big Grin]

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We caught Nova last night. Wish I would have recorded it. Fascinating!
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Saw it! Really fascinating. Same story in November National Geographic.
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Annie C
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Hey to the 5,000 yr old disease. Tincup you are an Icon in my heart... Ditto Kudos. The fact they with held Lyme Tst used and did it meet The "CDC's" Ten Bar Code. Or did they even contact CDC < Can't Diagnose Crap > from Shineola!!!

I want to ask a question re The Q-RiBb Test? With a 99%-100% accuracy

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YAY! I found a link to watch it online!


http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/ancient/iceman-murder-mystery.html


There's a link in the middle of the page (right under the large picture of the Iceman) that looks like this:

Watch Iceman Murder Mystery
53:07

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By the way, this is the SAME MUMMY that was written about several years back because he has tattoos all over his body that they discovered were in *acupuncture points*.

This was at least 1000 to 2000 years BEFORE acupuncture was thought to have been discovered/founded in China.

They couldn't figure out why he would need acupuncture other than early arthritis or the supposed "effects of difficult living."


Now we know he had LYME Disease!

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Here's some great links about �tzi's tattoos and health, etc.:

This is very interesting!

"Examination of the one fingernail found at the scene revealed that the Iceman suffered from a chronic illness of some kind.

Three of the so-called Beau-Reil lines across the nail indicate that �tzi�s immune system was subjected to periods of severe stress 8, 13 and 16 weeks before his death.

The most recent line is also the most pronounced."

from http://www.archaeologiemuseum.it/en/node/260


http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2011/11/iceman-autopsy/hall-text


Some very detailed images of �tzi, including some of his acupuncture tattoos]:

http://iceman.eurac.edu/

and

http://www.newscientist.com/gallery/dn17070-otzi-ice-man

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I have heard of a lyme patient having lyme found in a bone marrow biopsy. Patient had the initiative to do this and found a doc who would carry out the procedure.

However, I don't think this is done very often.

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Where was the testing done? Testing as we all know is terrible and does miss many even chronic Lyme patients. And why would they have tested the mummy for lyme?
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8man, I can only guess, but as they checked his DNA purity (after extracting bone fragments and liquifying and applying certain chemicals to them), they apparently found 3% that was not his own DNA,

and my guess is that then they probably compared that DNA to the database of known organisms. Borrelia burgdorferi (one of the main Lyme-causative bacteria species) happens to have been one of the VERY FIRST organisms to have had its entire genetic map (genome) completed.

Probably they ran the remaining 3% DNA against that DNA database (kinda like when they show forensic specialists running fingerprints against a fingerprint database in a crime movie)

and found that much of it matched up with the Lyme DNA they have in the database.

It's highly simplified, but I know they do similar when trying to identify an unidentified organism or animal, or even matching DNA found at a crime scene with criminal DNA databases.


The documentary was fascinating! I really hope the continuing research will shed new light on the current science of Lyme Disease and its treatment and diagnosis.

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quote:
Originally posted by nenet:
By the way, this is the SAME MUMMY that was written about several years back because he has tattoos all over his body that they discovered were in *acupuncture points*.

This was at least 1000 to 2000 years BEFORE acupuncture was thought to have been discovered/founded in China.

They couldn't figure out why he would need acupuncture other than early arthritis or the supposed "effects of difficult living."


Now we know he had LYME Disease!

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Irony is ironic.

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