nefferdun
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I am going to a naturopathic doctor Wed that uses IV hydrogen peroxid to treat lyme.. Does anyone have experience with this? I am not necessarily going to do it.
I made the appointment with the thought of doing something IV to detox heavy metals etc like alpha lipoic acid. I want to be prepared if she suggests the peroxide.
My primary problem has been babesia for over a year but I have residual Bb and bart that is usually dormant but can flair a little bit at times. The babesia is very mild right now.
There are very different opinions on IV HP, some saying it is dangerous and others saying it works very well to kill bacteria because it raises oxygen in the blood.
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I did HP treatments for about 10-12 weeks along with doxy and amoxicillin and I felt it was helpful.
It gets rid of parasites, bacteria and fungi. I felt really good after 10-12 weeks of this and actually I thought I was finally in remission. I wonder if I had continued if it would have put me in remission. The problem was it cost me $75.00 for each IV drip.
The negative thing about it is that it really tore up my veins from all those IV drips, so I have problems now finding a place in my vein that isn't scarred.
It is relatively safe; however, there is a story that can be looked up on the web about a woman who had MS that died from complications related to it.
My Naturopathic doctor explained to me that was because she was on steroids and that for the most part it is safe.
I would definitely do it again if I had the money and the veins, lol.
randibear
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No way not ever. My doc said it was like putting acid in your veins.
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sparkle7
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It didn't help me. I think I did it every week or so for at least a few months. I got headaches after doing it. I heard it's supposed to address viruses but I don't know. I'd look for some good science as to why it may help, first. I think the doctors just make money off of it.
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Based on the input from those that have tried this treatment, Ibelieve it is fair to say that this would be ill-advised therapy.
My concern would be is that if you damage your veins, you are going to have serious life-long problems and may never be able to take intravenous antibitoc therapy without experiencing serious complications.
Why risk everything for a short-term treatment that may not even help you but could seriously scar you?
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I've done it numerous times along with IV ozone. If you have the right doctor that knows what he/she is doing. It can be helpful.
It was to me. The key was to take our time with it. A drip would take as long as 4-5hrs at a time and it was done 2 or 3 times a week for a couple months.
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Yes. My daughter had them for 4 months, along with other IV treatments. No big improvement. The change in condition of veins was troubling to me. It got very hard to get an IV in and this scared me. I also wondered about increase of difficulty of breathing.
It is possible you are seeing the same doc. PM me if you want to discuss.
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Hubby did many of these treatments before we tried antibiotics. In my opinion they can help with viruses and maybe candida. Do not think they will help with lyme, babesia or bartonella.
Wish we had that money back now.
Why not add the peroxide to your bath as suggested by Dr J in Kansas. A lot cheaper and you have nothing to lose from trying it that way.
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Abxnomore
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True they are most helpful for knocking down the viral load and getting it under control. It's not helpful for lyme and co.
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They are definitely helpful to me. They help with the pain quite a bit. I do feel I herx on them a little so I think they are killing something. I don't think there is damage to the vein as long as the drip is slow enough. I can tell if the drip is too fast because it becomes painful. I do not feel like this is a cure for me, just a part of my treatment.
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I dont think its "ill advised". think under a Dr's treatment that it is safe.
I did them for a while, it didnt really help me at all, but I do think its safe
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nefferdun
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Well, I am not going to do it. There is not enough people who have benefited from it and I do not want to damage my veins. In fact I may just cancel this appointment. She is not an LLND - just a local, and she is expensive - nearly $300 for the first visit.
I also am not into taking massive supplements right now. I have a cabinet full of everything imaginable and don't need anyone suggesting anything else. I am fed up with swallowing things.
I just cancelled it! I am relieved.
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MichaelTampa
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I just took ozone autohemotherapy as a similar thing, but not tough on the veins. You take blood out, add ozone, and put it back. It has been helpful.
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Ozone autohomotherapy did not have any positive effect for me. Nothing at all like IV peroxide. I'm not suggesting ozone isn't good. It seems to help lots of people. I just wanted to point out that it's a very different therapy (for me anyway).
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