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StephenC
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My CD4 absolute count is currently 300 and has been dropping from 500 over the past four years. I am HIV negative and so am really wanting to know what is dragging these T cells down - I think I've been chronically ill because of it since 2006 (chronic fatigue, flu-like symptoms, GI symptoms, enlarged lymph nodes in the neck - on & off - derealization, brain fog, etc.)

My Igenex Lyme WB is equivocal, and I have high IGG results for HHV6, EBV, CMV, & Mycoplasma. When I drink alcohol, I'll get a high IGM reading for EBV.

So: it's clear to me that SOMETHING is dragging down my CD4 and allowing these viruses I have to cause me a chronic feeling of sickness. My question is, if I do NOT have the HIV virus (I've been tested three times,) WHAT is causing this?

My doctor is stumped. She's testing me for tuberculosis... I honestly don't think I have tuberculosis.

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Lingering chronic symptoms: Fatigue, Derealization, Brain fog. Monthly fever with flu-like symptoms that last for weeks.
Lyme WB Bands Positive: 31, 41, 58, 66
HHV6, EBV, CMV, & Mycoplasma IGG positive.
Chronically Low CD4 count.

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steve1906
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Here's some good info on low CD4>

http://www.healtoronto.com/irwincd4.html

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Everything I say is just my opinion!

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StephenC
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Wow. Could be anything; I'm ****ed, lol. Thanks Steve!

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Lingering chronic symptoms: Fatigue, Derealization, Brain fog. Monthly fever with flu-like symptoms that last for weeks.
Lyme WB Bands Positive: 31, 41, 58, 66
HHV6, EBV, CMV, & Mycoplasma IGG positive.
Chronically Low CD4 count.

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MurphyNC
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Mycoplasma Fermentans could possibly...

Interestingly, someone just posted the research of Dr Nicolson that I happened to read today and this type of mycoplasma contained unusual HIV genes in it, supporting that it had been weaponized by the Govt(meaning it was not naturally occurring, rather created in a lab to be more virulent). Of course M.Fermentans is a very common co-infection with lyme. Great read below.... info about HIV page 2....

http://www.immed.org/NewsReports/NewsReports03.2010update/PHA_Nicolson_0709_v4_07.pdf

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Do you know what type of Mycoplasma is positive for you?
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Buhner says Bart/Myco patients have low cd4 counts and that Rhodiola and ashwaghanda are best to increase them.
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momintexas
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Do you have mycoplasma pneumonia?

Have you had your glutathione levels checked?

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