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In my opinion the primary difference is probably in the strain of lyme that is contracted. There is research that shows some strains are much more virulent and I think some of those strains do NOT produce rashes.
Or another theory I have heard is that the rash is a sign that the immune system has recognized and is fighting the infection.
I do think it makes a tremendous difference in how many and which coinfections a person has.
I definitely do not think supplements interfere with antibiotics and treatment.
At this point I do not think anyone can answer your question because we just do not know enough. Also I am willing to bet that there is more than one correct answer.
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My theory is that we all get bitten by a different tick that was attached to a different host in a different geographical area. There are 100s of pathogens in these bugs. It's as if every single person with this illness has a different illness. Its not like, lets say HIV that is passed from one person to the next.
One person may get 100 different virulent pathogens and another person may get one pathogen that is not virulent.
Of course, if your immune system is down that will make a difference. I don't really subscribe to that idea because my immune system was in great shape when I was bitten and I was violently ill.
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yes Haley, what you said about the immune system I think is true, I was so healthy all my life, got minimal colds, and then one day just woke up and literally felt like I was hit by a truck from all this.
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Thank you..
.so anybody else about the supps messing with ABX , as in on negates the other.
Thanks TuTu ,, I know slow down....and comply...I'm just seeking any missing pieces.
Dell repair person ,actually sent to my home..I guess India got tired of my calls
I mention at home so much and my need to be on this site to learn etc, and mentioned LYME..
He's like Oh ya ,my ex-girlfriend had it/has it, my Mother is a herbologist sp? Also has other degree's in seeking health.
Brought up how some people just have thing's in smell/body that attract certain bite bug's ,mites, whatever and some just don't attract it.
He's been bitten at least 10 times..His brother lives in the woods..Litterally ,sleeps on the ground constant tick's and no sickness...
Can an Immune system just be so strong these guy's don't get to do their thing?
All on eastern part of states and South Dakota. said they knew many with illness.
That it is everywhere.....
and his mother suggested 1 herb $5 for ex-girlfriend and she got better..Just has to watch it a bit..
I had just taken 17 vits/supps/drops and getting ready for ABX. Just makes you wonder what the h__k it's all about.
I can say that I was actually dressed and waiting for this repairman.
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To quote Louis Pasteur "It's the terrain not the pathogen"
My LLMD told me that it is the amount of metals a person has that determines how damaged they get from lyme.
I agree with Bea in that there is more than one correct answer.
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nonna05
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I've had at least 4 metals test's..blood ,urine, 24 hour urine etc,,some usually say lead and mercury, but treatment is minimal.
So I guess it's not that high.. Yes I ask,,told a few thing's but never REAL BAD.
If I look at test it seems to me it's high,..But to date it has not been a big issue to Holistic, NASA, LLMD and primary...
This has also happened with hormones.. In my gut I feel a need for ESTRIOL, not the other's and with DIM,,,,also some progesterone.
I've been working on that since Suzanne Somers first book came out,. Trying to beat the bad times,,,,go figure.
If I Goggle metals and take supps ,then I may mess-up protocol.. Hysterectomy 8 years ago ,left 1 ovary , but they can't find it...
I will try to get answer again...
This is why I keep trying to figure thing's out...
TO feel well again , but to put this other "MAYBE STUFF" to rest...
No wonder friend's and some family just say get on with it, air, food , happy thought's...
It's just so complicated..and yet the test show issues at varied degrees,including positive LYME. Nonna
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I agree with Lymetoo. Eventually they will get sick. They just won't know what is going on with them.
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Ditto what Laura said "it's the terrain not the pathogen".
Immune health, genetics and ability to detox (also determined by genetics to some degree) are all huge.
I also agree with Bea in that there is more than one correct answer. Everyone's "terrain" is unique. It's definitely not one size fits all with any chronic illness. And Lyme is just one piece of the puzzle.
As far as what Tutu says-That eventually they will get sick-that is true to some degree. The things that happen to us usually happen to people in old age. I feel that the world we live in today has a lot to do with things. When you think about genetics and how it predisposes us to illness, our older family members that didn't develop certain illnesses until old age would probably have developed them sooner if they were exposed to all the environmental assaults we are exposed to today such as toxins, chemicals, food additives, EMF's, vaccines, antibiotics in foods and so on. They had many more years of not being exposed to all this BS than we have.
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nonna05
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anybody=y else about if/how ABX's can be affected by all the Supps we take?? Vitamins//minerals
Mag with Bicillin or Omni??
Samento, mimosa with adrenal support?/
How do you find out
Know you can plug in ABX into med interactions and get response to those...but what about all this other stuff??
Many doctor's still call the varied supps/vits/drops/ medicine also..
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i wonder if it is related to genes.
back when they had the vacine fiasco they figured out that 1/3 of the population would get very sick with severe arthritis when given the vaccine. maybe it is that third that gets sick from ticks?
i ran a camp at one point in a very endemic area-before we knew about lyme-and i remember 2 little girls-siblings...at the end of the day one woutl have ticks and one wouldnt. later one had learning problems (the one with the ticks) and the other didnt.
the point is -they would go everywhere together...but one always came back with bites ant the other didnt.
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ANY SUPPLEMENT EXPERTS OUT THERE? Also grapefruit juice for Artiminison...but not supposed to be with which abx?
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ANY SUPPLEMENT EXPERTS OUT THERE? Also grapefruit juice for Artiminison...but not supposed to be with which abx?
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Bit more about the mix of meds/verses supps/minerals//
and it's warm in Colorado so I'm tired of being one that get bites
Does being on treatment prevent a increase/or new infection?
should have done new post ..but want answers Don't we all....
he Lord let me build a nice glorified Garage with heat and plunbing (cabin) in the mountains and I want to use it again.
Slightly scarred,,besides needing to get better to stay a few day;s at a time..
How do you check inside?/
To many question's //Sorry
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