-------------------- Wendy Posts: 253 | From Near Albany, NY | Registered: Jan 2009
| IP: Logged |
Tammy N.
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 26835
posted
No bleach. This is a misconception (per many mold experts I've connected with). Some liken it to the idea of a lawn mower mowing over dandelions.... it just grows back.
Ammonia is best. Ammonia and water (50/50). Ammonia not only kills mold but it also neutralizes the mycotoxins. Straight ammonia is even better but you have to use special masks and have a lot of ventilation until the chemical disperses and dissipates.
Posts: 2238 | From East Coast | Registered: Jul 2010
| IP: Logged |
TerryK
Frequent Contributor (5K+ posts)
Member # 8552
posted
Bleach will kill on non porous surfaces but not on porous surfaces like concrete.
We had the top layer ground out and a concrete sealer put on. This was the recommendation of the floor person. Seemed to work fine but I can't guarantee it will work for your situation.
PS we had the whole area closed off including all the vents while this was being done. Then we washed everything down with thieves oil + thieves oil cleaner per the book written by Dr. Close.
Terry
Posts: 6286 | From Oregon | Registered: Jan 2006
| IP: Logged |
Catgirl
Frequent Contributor (5K+ posts)
Member # 31149
posted
I used tilex. But it does come back after a while if there is not enough ventilation, or if we get too much rain (humidity). August seems to be the worst month.
-------------------- --Keep an open mind about everything. Also, remember to visit ACTIVISM (we can change things together). Posts: 5418 | From earth | Registered: Mar 2011
| IP: Logged |
lpkayak
Honored Contributor (10K+ posts)
Member # 5230
posted
i know i need to seal it...but i didnt know about grinding it out...that will be hard. i get really sick from the dust.
does anyone know the name of a sealer that works good?
-------------------- Lyme? Its complicated. Educate yourself. Posts: 13712 | From new england | Registered: Feb 2004
| IP: Logged |
posted
Orange Guard takes out mold - it's a great cleaner - it's an essential oil from oranges - you can find it in healthfood stores and hardware stores.
Put a little in a spray bottle, fill with water and spray. Takes about a half hour to dissipate the orange smell.
I also use it as my tick repellent, since it repels bugs. I spray it on clothing and immediate environment, like where I'm going to sit, but I do not use it on skin.
Posts: 13116 | From San Francisco | Registered: May 2006
| IP: Logged |
Tammy N.
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 26835
posted
A friend of mine who has a head for chemistry and was dealing with her own major mold issue did a TON of research. Hands down she said ammonia.
Posts: 2238 | From East Coast | Registered: Jul 2010
| IP: Logged |
bcb1200
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 25745
posted
Dr. K says to use Vinegar and baking soda.
Vinegar is best for the mold. Baking soda for the mold spores.
-------------------- Bite date ? 2/10 symptoms began 5/10 dx'd, after 3 months numerous test and doctors
IgM Igenex +/CDC + + 23/25, 30, 31, 34, 41, 83/93
Currently on:
Currently at around 95% +/- most days. Posts: 3134 | From Massachusetts | Registered: May 2010
| IP: Logged |
From there buy the paint Kilz. From the Kilz Site:
To block mold and mildew stains:
KILZ Exterior, KILZ 2 Latex, and KILZ Premium primers
Mold and mildew covered surfaces must be thoroughly washed with a mildew remover, rinsed with water and allowed to dry before priming. We recommend KILZ 2 Latex primer or KILZ Premium primer for interior surfaces, and KILZ Exterior primer, KILZ 2 Latex primer, and KILZ Premium primer for exterior Mildew-prone areas.
(Important to find source of leak and fix)
-------------------- HERX is a Four Letter Word! Posts: 716 | From If you're going through hell, keep going......Winston Churchill | Registered: Apr 2007
| IP: Logged |
Dogsandcats
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 28544
posted
I have used kilz before because the dear cat peed and sprayed everywhere, even the tack boards were covered.
Follow instruction, I don't remember horrible smell from it.
We also found a product at Home Depot called Odoban that has worked well.
-------------------- God will prepare everything for our perfect happiness in heaven, and if it takes my dog being there, I believe he'll be there.
Billy Graham Posts: 1967 | From California | Registered: Oct 2010
| IP: Logged |
-------------------- --Lymetutu-- Opinions, not medical advice! Posts: 96222 | From Texas | Registered: Feb 2001
| IP: Logged |
feelfit
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 12770
posted
this from top mold experts: Ammonia to kill mold and spores.
No bleach/gets rid of mold but makes spores propagate.
use dry-lok on cement.
run fans with air running out windows. wear masks and protective gear if you are doing this yourself.
As TerryK has said, you can diffuse Thieves Oil and also wipe down with Thieves Oil cleaner as you go along. Everything needs attention (all of your belongings) not only your floors.
Do you know the type of mold you have?
Posts: 3975 | From usa | Registered: Aug 2007
| IP: Logged |
posted
Kilz does not control or eliminate mold. Im in the drywall restoration business. A lot of my work requires remediation. The industry standard is a product called Microban. You can usually buy it at a janitorial supply shop. Its what all remediators and hospitals use for bacteria, mildew and disenfecting
-------------------- Neuro symptoms since 1995. Dx'd Bart in 10-09. Biaxin/Tindamax 10-10 thru 2-11 Factive 3-11 thru 5-11 Factive/ Rifampin 9-11 thru 11-11 IV Rocephin/ Tindamaz. 11-11 thru 1-12/ IV Rocephin/ Flagyl / Factive 1-12 thru present Posts: 69 | From Florida | Registered: Dec 2009
| IP: Logged |
Razzle
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 30398
posted
Would steam cleaning the cement kill the mold?
-------------------- -Razzle Lyme IgM IGeneX Pos. 18+++, 23-25+, 30++, 31+, 34++, 39 IND, 83-93 IND; IgG IGeneX Neg. 30+, 39 IND; Mayo/CDC Pos. IgM 23+, 39+; IgG Mayo/CDC Neg. band 41+; Bart. (clinical dx; Fry Labs neg. for all coinfections), sx >30 yrs. Posts: 4166 | From WA | Registered: Feb 2011
| IP: Logged |
Tammy N.
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 26835
posted
I don't think so Razzle......water on mold will only cause it to grow. You need a killing agent. The important thing to remember is that dead mold is also dangerous because it still produces mycotoxins. That's why ammonia is best. It kills the mold AND neutralizes the mycotoxins.
Posts: 2238 | From East Coast | Registered: Jul 2010
| IP: Logged |
posted
Tgym.. Can she use ammonia then the microban? or skip the ammonia?
-------------------- --Lymetutu-- Opinions, not medical advice! Posts: 96222 | From Texas | Registered: Feb 2001
| IP: Logged |
Dogsandcats
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 28544
posted
I have used kilz before because the dear cat peed and sprayed everywhere, even the tack boards were covered.
Follow instruction, I don't remember horrible smell from it.
We also found a product at Home Depot called Odoban that has worked well.
-------------------- God will prepare everything for our perfect happiness in heaven, and if it takes my dog being there, I believe he'll be there.
Billy Graham Posts: 1967 | From California | Registered: Oct 2010
| IP: Logged |
lpkayak
Honored Contributor (10K+ posts)
Member # 5230
posted
thank you all for answers...
stan: there is no leak. it is condensation from house built on slab. the fiberboard used for subfloor was the worst culprit. if they had only put carpet down it might have breathed thru.
im not big on carpet cuz of other allergies and mcs. i found a product called dri-core made in canada that is very promising. it does have glue in it but not formaldyhyde and you off gass it b4 installing
the last 2 rooms i demoed had new problems and i am struggling with those now...
mildew stains are not an issue...as slab will be covered with something...but my brother said to mix an antimicrobial into kiltz and paint that on...is that what you are saying stan?
thanks all for help...so much new learning for this lyme brain. in a way its good i'm doing this in sections cuz each part is different.
ps-the cat pee is sorta on hold while i deal with the mold room...
-------------------- Lyme? Its complicated. Educate yourself. Posts: 13712 | From new england | Registered: Feb 2004
| IP: Logged |
lpkayak
Honored Contributor (10K+ posts)
Member # 5230
posted
moldinspector.com got back to me and said mold doesnt eat concrete it only eats the dust on the concrete
-------------------- Lyme? Its complicated. Educate yourself. Posts: 13712 | From new england | Registered: Feb 2004
| IP: Logged |
The Lyme Disease Network is a non-profit organization funded by individual donations. If you would like to support the Network and the LymeNet system of Web services, please send your donations to:
The
Lyme Disease Network of New Jersey 907 Pebble Creek Court,
Pennington,
NJ08534USA http://www.lymenet.org/
UBBFriend: Email this page to someone!
Printer-friendly view of this topic