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Jammers, that is great you are treating tonight! This has been a wicked full moon for me too.
I have taken humaworm with samento and cumanda, and salt/c before--no problems.
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Wow, I just passed a bunch of worms (maybe due to the full moon?)! It is still so gratifying to me when I get rid of so many at once. Maybe because I fought so long before I saw any exit.
Just a reminder that enemas really help to expel them, especially if you're not seeing anything. Keep fighting warriors!
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WAY TO GO CATGIRL!!! Soooo happy for you. I know exactly what you mean. When you actually "see" what's been making you so sick and it's leaving your body, it is so rewarding. I couldn't believe what I was seeing when they started to exit along with other parasites. I had n
o idea I had parasites inside of me. I figured if I had them, others that were chronically ill with Lyme could also especially after seeing the lymephotos pics. That's why after researching parasites and their life cycle, I started to post about this malady so often to make others aware.
BTW, I was first made aware of the www.lymephotos.com and the salt/c protocol here on lymenet. Good for you for persisting in going after this enemy.
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I see no reason not to take Humaworm alongside the Samento and Cumanda, Jamers, but would suggest that you take it at least 15 to 20 minutes away from either tincture.
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I did a herbal protocol over the weekend for parasites and yeast.
Good news mentally it wasn't as hard as before, but boy did my gut want to hang on.
Woke up Sat. @ 2 a.m. and chugged some liquid magnesium citrate: goodbye suckers!
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Thanks Gael! I physically feel better when I pass them and the toxins they excreted. Thanks for posting the lymephotos link. It's inspiring to read it and see the pictures. :)
Right on, Surprise!
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Your very welcome Catgirl. Wishing everyone a happy exiting of these critters!
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Anyone know if you really must take a break from Humaworm? I finished my 30 days and really want to stay on it.
I figured I would ask here as well as at Humaworm.
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CD57,
I have stayed on antiparasitic herbs and salt/c for over 6 yrs. I have switched it around using Parastroy, Hanna Kroeger and Hulda Clark with adding extra cloves, coconut oil, probiotics and kefir.
I really think adding salt/c now could be very beneficial starting at a low dose. Then maybe trying something like Parastroy added. Humaworm will probably tell you to take a break.
You can also ask them about their other herbs for bacteria and Lyme and check out their website for ingredients. Just some thoughts. What I would not do is not do anything.
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why do they tell you to take a break, does anyone know?
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Anyone have experience with Paragone? Specifically Paragon for Kids...? It's seems like it has many of the common antiparasitic herbs in it...
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I didn't find Paragone as strong as Parastroy, but maybe that would be good for kids. Most of the antiparasitic herbs have similar ingredients. The 3 most important for killing parasites, wormwood, black walnut hull and cloves needs to be included to be effective.
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I've tried Paragone.
it would be good for really bad infestation, I think-to ease into it, as it is gentler, and maybe the die-off would be less. Probably a good one for someone who might have a hard time detoxing.
CD-I am not sure what all the ingreds are in Humaworm, but I think anything with Wormwood has that caution.
Personally, I went from Humaworm to Hulda Clark to Hanna Kroeger to Paragone etc. with clove capsules always.
But I was not taking other meds at the time.
This full moon has sucked.
It is my own fault for falling off the salt/C wagon.
But honestly, it has been terrible.
Surprise-way to go! Always good to keep those suckers moving out.
Catgirl-that's great! Especially if you haven't seen any in a while-must've been nice for some assurances about being on the right path.
Gael-is your maintenance dose for salt/C lower than the goal dose?
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My maintenance dose is around 5-10 gms salt/c in an 8oz glass. I sip it through the day and probably don't even get that amount. Not because I don't want to, but my stomach doesn't handle a higher dose like it used to.o I must not need it.
When I was at the height of doing salt/c, I had worked my way up (very slowly) to 20 gms per day in divided doses of 5gms per glass.
Not suggesting anyone go that high, but that's what I tolerated. It actually would turn into a flush and I would expel most of it along with parasites.
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Thanks Greta. :) This full moon was a bad one for me as well. I'm so happy it's over!
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Hey Guys,
I have not been on this thread in quite a while. I continue to address parasites with herbs and doing fairly well.
I have a question for the experts out there.
I recently underwent a molar extraction last week and ended up getting dry socket. Also felt like I was having a bit of a parasite flare during this full moon.
Anyway, the treatment for dry socket is clove oil soaked in cotton placed into the jaw socket. Do you think this will cause a parasite herx if I have parasites effecting the dental region? Thanks! DW
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2Roads, From your post on March 16. I think you need to find a good naturalpath/homeopath doctor. Many things have side effects and not everyone is the same. I think you need to address detoxifying issues. And address parasites. You you can do coconut water, which is anti-parasitic. Also papaya and include the seeds with honey. Cucumbers are also detox kidneys of parasites. You could parasite testing through metametrix. I think it is up to a parent to look for the best interest of the child. Sometimes you have to use pharma, but keep an eye out and work with your doctor. take care,
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desertwind,
Cloves are antiparasitic and are also thought to kill parasite eggs. You could get a herx from it, and the clove oil can also be absorbed in to your system. Really a good thing since it will kill off the bugs. Keep us posted.
Gael
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Thanks glm1111; Thanks.
The dry socket pain sooo much better but....I am having wicked head pressure and headaches now. Those two symptoms have always been related to parasites for me. I always thought parasites were a big part of my dental/jaw issue so happy to have clove oil in my bone socket.
Interesting...
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Your very welcome! Glad your pain is subsiding. Are you on any antiparasitics now? Or have you been in the past?
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It is amazing how clove oil took away pain that percocet could not touch.
Yes, I had done a couple of rounds of a modified version of Dr. K.' protocol. Had fabulous results once through the herx.
Took Alinia for a few months after finishing the rotation of meds. Was also on Malarone, A-P, black walnut, ART, Pau d' Arco and a few other herbs.
Lately I have not been on anything. Thinking of re-starting something.
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Might be a good idea. Maybe try Parastroy and salt/c. The combo packs quite a punch and might chase out some unwanted guests.
Gael
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I will try your suggestions. I have had an increase in head pressure since the clove oil packing and that was one of my top parasite symptoms. DW
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anyone ever taken the VRM2, VRM1, or VRM3. I did a zyto session with scott and he said my body is testing high for these. The 2 the most then the 3, then the 1.
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I've taken VRM4 quite a bit, but never 2, 1, or 3.
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What was your reaction?
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For frikfrak to review.
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thanks glm1111....i have read this post (parasites) many times. I see that a lot of people use the salt/vit c but not going to lie, I'm little nervous giving it to my DS...since he doesn't speak I would not know how he's feeling.
Also he's on multiple abx for lyme/babesia.
thank you, I will definitely see about what i can do to go after these critters.
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I have been treating parasites and seeing them exit for 3-1/2 years now. I mostly rotate Albenza and Parastroy, but add diam. earth at times.
Is it safe to use this combo for such a long haul?
Anything others find stronger than Parastroy?
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I add Hanna Kroeger Wormwood, extra cloves to Parastroy and salt/c. Parastroy says to not use for that long, but I have used it for over a year. You can also rotate with Humaworm and other antiparasitic herbs. They all seem to have similar ingredients.
Adding salt/c to the mix packs quite a powerful punch. You might want to consider. When I did that it caused a mass exodus for mos. The parasites can't stand the salt and causes them to exit.
It can take yrs to get rid of parasites and all of the eggs and larva they have layed deep into the tissues. It's like peeling an onion. Just keep going, because persistence is key.
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How do you know the difference between "just a side effect" of the medication, and a herx or die-off of parasites or bacteria?
A few days ago I started a medication for parasites. The first medication I tried had no effect on me. This second medication, within about 2 days of starting it I got really sick (fever, aches, chest congestion, headache, etc).
My doctor says he believes this is a die-off rather than just an effect of the meds.
This medication targets the microscopic parasites, so I wouldn't be able to tell by passing any.
I'm just confused as to knowing the difference between if it's die-off or normal issues from the meds.
My fever was pretty bad the first 2 days, and now it goes between completely normal and low-grade fever.
Any thoughts or experiences anyone has had with this type of thing?
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Dmarie, it's a tough call because some parasite meds also hit lyme. Die off is the herx, and if it happened within two days of taking it, I would guess it's because your meds killed something.
If however you are having symptoms that are known side effects (you can check drugs.com), then they could be from the meds. It's still a tough call though. Your doc probably has a better idea here, so I would follow his lead. A fever throws me though (sounds like lyme).
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Thanks Catgirl. We aren't sure yet if I have Lyme, so it's definitely a little confusing.
Fever is not listed as one of the common side-effects of the med, though who knows?
My fever was way worse at first. It was pretty high for 2-3 days. Now it fluctuates between being completely normal with no fever, and then it'll randomly go up for a short period of time.
My doc does say he thinks die-off is more likely than side-effect of meds.
What throws me is that while maybe something is being killed, my original symptoms are not improving. I just assumed that as soon as things started being killed...my symptoms would go away (even though I'm only on day 4 of the medication).
The dr. says it can take much longer for symptoms to show an improvement. What's your experience with that? Am I just being too impatient? Posts: 75 | From Chicago, IL | Registered: Jan 2014
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My last LLMD that passed away did a test. Don't know what it is called or which lab she used.
My chart notes say BRC - significant biofilm.
Does anyone have any input?
I am on anti-parasitic protocol plus clyndamiacin. Plus heparin.
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Parasites and other microorganisms secrete biofilm as a protective coating to protect themselves from being attacked by outside sources such as abx for example.
When I added salt/c to my antiparasitic herbs, I found numerous parasites floating in the toilet surrounded by biofilm.
Salt is a drying agent to many organisms that become dehydrated when the salt hits them. Much like when you pour salt on a worm it will shrivel up.
Gael
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Dmarie, often when people go after one bug, another co infection pops up, so they feel worse. Also, if you read Burrascano's guidelines, you will see that people often get worse before they get better (lyme). It takes time to figure out what is what.
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Mlg, maybe it is due to proto?
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I stumbled across this while reading about the CDC's Neglected 5...
I didn't realize toxocariasis was as prevalent as it is.
Sorry to quote a CDC link here folks...normally wouldn't do this, but the numbers of admitted parasite infection is actually higher than I ever thought the CDC would admit it to be.
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Someone was asking about a bad cough?
"The manifestations of toxocariasis reflect the number of migrating larvae, where the larvae have migrated in the body, and the degree of immune response and inflammation that developed in response to the presence of the larvae.
Visceral toxocariasis has been proposed as a cause of asthma..."
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Toxoplasmosis:
"In the United States it is estimated that 22.5% of the population 12 years and older have been infected with Toxoplasma."
Other parts of the world have been estimated at 95%
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What po's me about both of these is they are detected with blood tests.
Which is great for those of us with LL's who realize our compromised immune systems give us a chance at catching EVERYTHING, but not great for everyone else who sees Dr. Ordinary Smith.
Wouldn't it be nice if every poor kid with asthma had a simple blood test to see if perhaps steroid inhalers weren't the wisest course of treatment?
Grrr...
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CD57--I am chiming in late. Humaworm suggest a 90 day break so the parasites do not develop resistance like they do to antibiotics.
A lot of parasite regimens wipe out the good bacteria and the yeast (both good and bad yeast). I know humaworm does and it takes awhile to build the gut back up.
But, definitely worth it to get the parasites any safe way you can!
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The problem with taking a break from antiparasitics is that some of these parasites (roundworms)are laying 200,000 eggs a day. Not to mention how many eggs the other parasites are laying.Threadworms, hookworms etc. That would be approx. 6,000,000 eggs a month (if my math is correct)
This is considered a hyperinfection. Folks that are chronically ill with Lyme or TB are on abx for a yr or longer without a break.
I took that 3 mos break that Humaworm suggested and am sorry I did. I drink/drank lots of kefir as well even while taking the herbs. Not telling anyone else what to do, but for me the numbers speak for themselves.
The herbs also kill the candida. These parasites are just plain bad news and not to be taken lightly as they invade the brain, organs, lungs and tissue.
If you are lucky enough to have an ART practioner, that would help. I guess everyone has to do what they are comfortable with.
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P.S.
When you add salt/c to the herbs, it sucks the water out of the parasites and causes them to go into osmotic shock and exit. The combo packs quite a punch.
Gael
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quote:Originally posted by glm1111: The problem with taking a break from antiparasitics is that some of these parasites (roundworms)are laying 200,000 eggs a day. Not to mention how many eggs the other parasites are laying.Threadworms, hookworms etc. That would be approx. 6,000,000 eggs a month (if my math is correct)
This is considered a hyperinfection. Folks that are chronically ill with Lyme or TB are on abx for a yr or longer without a break.
I took that 3 mos break that Humaworm suggested and am sorry I did. I drink/drank lots of kefir as well even while taking the herbs. Not telling anyone else what to do, but for me the numbers speak for themselves.
The herbs also kill the candida. These parasites are just plain bad news and not to be taken lightly as they invade the brain, organs, lungs and tissue.
If you are lucky enough to have an ART practioner, that would help. I guess everyone has to do what they are comfortable with.
Gael
I agree with Gael. I took a break and was sorry I did. Also, the herbs do help with candida.
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I'm on day 7 of my medication/antibiotics for parasites and my doctor really thinks that the first couple days I had a die-off reaction.
I still have another week of the prescription. I'm probably being impatient, but I'm really discouraged my ORIGINAL symptoms are still here with no improvement.
Should they be gone already if I really did have a die-off? Or am I being too impatient? My doctor said it can take time to show any improvement...
How long does this take?? Maybe I'm looking at it the wrong way but I keep thinking if I did have a die-off, then my parasite symptoms would be gone Posts: 75 | From Chicago, IL | Registered: Jan 2014
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Dmarie, why not listen to your doc (it takes time)? Don't you believe him?
Sorry, but if I didn't know better I would think you were a troll. You seem to keep asking the same questions trying to acquire advice or a different response. We're not doctors. Your doc has the answers you seek.
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Had the same situation with dmarie sending me pms and asking the same questions in a different way repeatedly. Quite tiring.
Catgirl is right...listen to your doc and do some research on parasites. Did you do any research dMarie?
Gael
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Wow I'm really sorry. I didn't mean to offend or irritate anyone. I've just been trying to understand things better and make sense of things. It's been a confusing time and was just really appreciative of people who actually understood these things (unlike me).
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And yes, Gael, I've done research but there is so much it's overwhelming and I don't really know what to take. Sometimes deciphering all the information online is a bit difficult.
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Yes, same experience here. Over and over.
Research for whatever, regarding whatever you're researching for,
Try curezone. Parasite forum. There's enough wingnuts on there to supply you with a plethora of data for whatever it is you are researching.
Folks with lyme have enough problems as it is.
God bless and good luck with your paper.
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Starting a new anti parasitic.
Parasite Purge
Wormwood, Black Walnut, Garlic, Cinnamon, Clove, Thyme in a tincture.
Company called Harmonic Arts Botanical Dispensary.
First tincture drops tried this morning. Will keep you posted on progress.
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Right on Greta! I like trying new products. They seem to confuse the bugs.
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It is STRONG!
Halfing my previous dropperful...
Had some strange cramping in the duodenal area... Thought I was going to have the runs... Strong enough to make me squint my eyes and breathe the La Mas....hahaha.
But didn't have the runs. Just the weird cramps. They went away.
Trying half dropperful with dinner.
You're right Catgirl! It's good to keep them confused!
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Awesome!
I think tincture forms are very strong in general, at least for me they are. I get very sharp cramping from them, then the next day more worms--sometimes different ones that I haven't seen in awhile.
Greta, is it alcohol based? Also, how big a bottle did you get? I don't know my ml vs oz (lol).
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I got the 50mL bottle. About one and a half times the size of a Byron white bottle (abab, av etc).
I wanted to try the smallest size in case it was just the usual run of the mill etc.
Also bought Candida Combat, which I haven't tried (will add in next week).
WOW! can't believe the strength of the Parasite Purge.
The garlic is strong but doesn't burn the mouth like fresh garlic.
Yes, alcohol based tincture.
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Thanks Greta! Please keep us posted on how well it kills the bugs.
Hey, the lyme ease looks like it might be worth trying too.
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I thought most of these herbal parasites stuff had mostly the same ingredients so am surprised to hear about the strength of Greta's new one. Way to go!
Also I have really noticed that the Humaworm (I am back on) is far worse at wiping out good bacteria than the abx I have been on!
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CD57, what do you mean wiping out good bacteria, what is it doing to you?
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I can just tell that this stuff is doing that far more so than the abx I have taken. I have to be VERY vigilant about replenishing, or I can tell immediately.
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CD57-wow! Thanks for the heads up about huma! interesting!
Yes, I thought the tinctures were all the same too but yowsers.
I can tell it is doing some serious killing, as for the first time in my life, I mean ever, I have went 24 hours without pooping. (TMI sorry). I will do a salt water enema tonight to get the toxins out.
Normally things have a tendency to go the other way, and I spend half my life on the can. Haha.
Patches-i think I've seen those suppositories on the greenandhealthy website. They may be cheaper there?
Haven't tried them, but interested!
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I've tried the suppositories for a month. I didn't see anything at the time, but they did give me what the ER doc thought was a UTI.
Now i don't think it was a UTI, i think it was just killing something and the pain was from that. I wouldn't do it every night at first.
I just ordered parastroy to add to my salt/C, anyone know what dose is good to start out with?
Thanks!!!
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I started Parastroy with half the dose they suggested and ramped up according to how I felt. It's very strong.
Good luck with it and keep us posted.
Gael
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Mlg, I haven't heard of that one before, but it looks good!
CD57, maybe it is killing so much that the die off is giving you yeast? That happens to me from abx, and they give me what seems like a UTI, but not a UTI. Or maybe there is something in it your body cannot handle.
You could always try calling humaworm. They usually are very good at pinpointing which herb causes which reaction. Then they can leave it out if you so desire.
Humaworm actually makes my yeast better. My doc even said that parasite formulas often do this (better).
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Yikes!
Going down to 1/4 dropperful!
Definitely working!
I'm needing to increase activated charcoal.
Strange mucousy things-makes me think my body is surrounding toxins, or maybe biofilms?
Cramping in duodenal area a few hours after tincture-ing.
But definitely going to 1/4 dropper.
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Wow, Greta, it is so good to hear you found something that is working so well, even after lowering the dose. That stuff must be super strong!
Have you seen an increase in worms too?
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No worms yet. But those strange mucousy things with the bright red dots in it.
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It's not blood. it looks like clear gel with tiny red sprinkles (the kind that go on sugar cookies).
Very bizarre. Have had this once before-don't know what this is. Must be a biofilm of some type.
Yes, I am very pleased with the tincture so far. It said 30 drops on the bottle, but I think that would be for healthier folks!
Has anyone had this gel-thingy?
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A great discussion of lyme, heavy metals(including aluminum) and parasites from Dr. K.
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Thanks for posting the discussion from Dr.K.
Interesting that it was brought up by Robin123 on a thread debating the safety and use of MMS for parasites. Robin brought up the point that just a few yrs ago, bringing up the point that folks with Lyme had parasites was ridiculed.
I can attest to that, because I caught a lot of flack for my constantly bringing up the parasite issue.
It didn't really bother me, because of my own battle with finally "seeing" what was making me so sick and knew it could be the missing link for many with chronic Lyme.
Really happy to finally see so many here pursuing these monsters inside being "uncovered" so to speak.
Kinda like saying to these intruders "Okay, the jigs up, NOW GET OUT"!!! You are ALL really strong fighters and have what it takes to get well.
Gael
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It is a little confusing at first, but the potential is so great and the cost so low that anyone who is willing to try will be rewarded I think.
I am only on my third day of using the parasite frequencies and feel some brain fog clearing.
I will keep you informed.
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