tricia386
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Hello-
So I have a proclein filling which chipped a very very very very long time ago and I have just let it go bc of money and bc of everything else going on.
Well, I went to the dentist and he said I might need a root canal.
He said he needs to clean out the filling and he wont know until he gets in there if I will need one..Xrays showed no infection..
I am so scared....
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If the xray shows no infection and the tooth is not painful I don't think you would need a root canal.
In order for a dentist to say you need a root canal, an abscess should be visible on the xray.
Saving the tooth is different....if there is not enough tooth left because of decay then you may loose the tooth.A root canal wouldnt help with that anyway.
hopefully they can just clean out the decay and do a build up on the tooth:)
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Isn't having the tooth pulled always an option in lieu of a root canal?
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Are crowns as bad as root canals??
Yes he said there is lots of decay my gum is very inflammed tho and now all the teeth are senstive on that side
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No crowns are not as bad as root canals. The problem with root canals is that teeth have all sorts of mircotubles in the canal so it is very hard to clean out the infection.
A crown is still on the outside of the tooth so they can clean the decay around/on the tooth and place a crown.
I have a mouth full of dental work and used to be a dental assistant so I have been through it. I read the book,"the roots of disease" and after that i don't know that I would get another root canal...I suppose it would depend on the situation and the location.
Last year I lost three teeth, all root canals, and each one was infected inside. the root canal, if not cleaned properly will just seal infection in there:( which will be a anoth thing for your immune system to deal with.
Crowns are ok,i would not hesitate to get another. GiGi has been posting about MMS and uses for teeth health. anyway, my husband has been using this for his teeth and the improvment has been amazing. Maybe it could help with swollen gum?
Also, rinsing with salt water may help swollen gum too. hoepfully, they can get the decay out soon:)
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tricia386
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Yes he said bc the filling cracked, a procelin that I did have decay via the xray he could see that. He said that the root might be infected and sometimes they cant see it on Xray.
He said he would go in take the old filling out and clean out the decay and let it seattle down a little and put me on ABX to make sure as well as put an ABX mixture in there I would be able to tell by pain if I needed one...and he said I might just need anew filling...
Its my second to last tooth in my mouth..
I need to consult with my LLMD and see what he says...all of this sucks!!
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If he puts you on clindamyacin (lots of dentists do), you might want to take probiotics as well.
Florastor and Theralac are good ones.
Clindamyacin is a chief offender in causing c-diff.
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I would definitely go to a biological dentist, if it were me. (Make sure to find a good bio dentist that uses ozone).
In addition to them taking the most cautious, health-conscious approach, the use of ozone is so important for those of us with multiple infections. So whether it is just a filling or even a crown that you need, ozoning the the tooth first will ensure that all infectious agents are killed before the tooth gets filled/crowned.
I would also try to avoid a crown....onlays are often the answer. Conventional dentists often suggest a crown, where bio dentists often save the tooth with an onlay.
Best to you.
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At stickerbowandtherose.com is a post on Your Dentist and Lyme. Must read for you. Best wishes
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Even if the root canal procedure is successful in removing the abscess and sealing everything up bacteria-tight....
For those of you in the energy medicine camp...
There are some that say that because a root canal is a DEAD thing being left in the body, it blocks the energy meridians and when your energy meridians are blocked, your immune system will not be able to function to optimum efficiency.
One holistic dentist that I went to had a chart that even correlates root canals on specific teeth to specific diseases.
For example, I had a root canal on tooth #7. He told me that a root canal on #7 could cause prostate cancer.
I'm probably a fool for listening to him, but I had that tooth pulled and replaced with a bridge.
All of this was done when I had my amalgams out.
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I just had to have a tooth pulled because the decay was below the gum line. The tooth had previously had a root canal. If the tooth is in the back I myself would have it pulled rather than go thru a root canal on it or if the decay is below the gum line.
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I had to loose 3 teeth last year. I read all the info about root canals & decided to have the teeth out as opposed to getting root canals. I don't think root canals are a good idea.
It's not fun to loose the tooth but I think it's better than having something in your head that can harbor infection. I know many people who had to have them removed later on due to bad infections. So, it seems like it's just a temporary fix on many occasions.
I think people underestimate the importance of infections that are harboring in the jaw. It's not that far from the brain...
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I have a dead top front left tooth (number 9), from falling on a hard surface (ice) as a teenager. Just a small part chipped away, it is mostly all there, but clearly dead by color and X-ray. But, I have had people energy test that there are no energy blockages. So, I do believe dead teeth can cause blockages in the meridians, but sounds like it doesn't always do that.
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I had a root canalled tooth pulled last year. I needed a root canal in another tooth and opted for extraction.
I still have one root canalled tooth on top that isn't bothering me. I will eventually have it removed when I can afford partials.
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What he means by doesn't know how far the decay goes is this:
When he starts taking the decay out, he will first use the highspeed drill to get the majority of the decay. Then he will use a slowspeed drill to go very gentle and slow as he removes the rest of the decay that is close to the opening of the canals. If the decay is right on top of a canal and there is a small exposure to the canal, he could do a pulp cap with medication and then a filling and see how you do. This is ONLY if the decay is microscopic into/on top of the pulp. If there is an 'exposure' of the canal, and it's too far into the pulp, then a root canal needs to be done.
You would not see anything on an xray of any infection, just that the decay had started getting to close to the pulp chamber of the roots. There is no infection at this point, just decay.
You can as I stated, take a chance with a pulp cap with the medicated layer and then filling and see how the tooth feels for months. A lot of times, this is ok and a person can live with this. But.... again, if the decay is too close and too much into the opening, then a root canal is needed.
It all depends on the dentist and how he cleans canals out on if a endo treated tooth will cause problems or not. He needs to make sure to clean all the way down to the apex (end of root). With molars, there is always the possibility that there is an auxillary canal that they do not find, which would cause a person to have pain yet, after a root canal.
There are many different views on root canals and lyme.
I've worked in dentistry for years, and I have about 3 different root canals. Some are pretty old. I've never ever had any problems with them. But I had great dentists that did them correctly the first time.
Read and decide for yourself on what you want for yourself. Only you can decide what is right or wrong for your body.
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Crowns are made up of many different chemicals. You can have gold, porcelain fused to metal, or straight porcelain.
Most people are not allergic to the composite of a crown.
Sounds like he will maybe put a medicated temp. filling in it and see how it reacts for a few weeks. That is a good thing. Sounds like he is a straight shooter!
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My friend had sore teeth and mouth, bleeding gums and wobbly teeth. I gave him some MMS tincture prepared according to instructions in MMS book. All cleared up within a week, he is now using it as maintenance less frequenty during the day.
Do not get a root canal!!! until the dental profession comes up with a better solution. So far most of them are mercury toxic and thus lost their brain capacity. No human being should put that stuff in the mouth of other human beings.
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tricia386
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will i be okay if i just need a filling not metal of course??
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You will be fine, if the the decay is straight forward, meaning you don't want it to have any exposure to the roots.
Composite white fillings are resin. In a nutshell, it's plastic. They have been around only for the last 25-30 yrs, and improving each year, but no tests have been done for how they hold up, etc, since they are so 'new'.
An onlay is only for smaller type fillings, not for anything that is over 2 surfaces, so white/composite fillings are what you would need. They aren't as strong as alloy. If you are needing a crown, he will most likely build up the tooth with a stronger buildup material, which is not really a composite but a mixture of glass particles and composite.
I am not telling you 'what' to do, but aim to give you information so that you can choose an avenue. We all shouldn't be 'telling' what the other person should do, but educate the choices.
What's right for you, might not be right for me. Doesn't make either way a correct way... just correct for the person.
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