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tricia386
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dont get me started on gardasil it has ruined my life
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GretaM
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Forgot to do research regarding ovararian health after Gardasil...that's a pretty substanstial "Oops".
Unbelievable!
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lax mom
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Thanks to tricia386 I didn't have my daughter get her last Gardisil injection. She had 2 bad experiences with the 1st two and the pediatrician was still pushing her to get the last one!
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I'm a 23 year old male and I received the 3 gardasil injections 2010-2011 with my last one in August 2011. February 14th 2012 is the day I woke up feeling really weird. From there on it all started.
I still don't know whether:
A. The Gardasil vaccine has injured me and destroyed my immune system (I have read stories where people didn't have any reactions until months after)
B. The Gardasil vaccine weakened my immune system (didn't injure me) and brought out my Lyme/tick related organisms that my body was fighting off in its own. I was bit by a tick in elementary school and found it on my head. Back then no one thought anything of it since I felt fine and I was never given any meds.
OR
C. I was bit in my bed in the winter somehow. In January while I was in bed I saw a tick crawling and killed it, which strongly leads me to believe there were more. I lived in an old house.
wait...
OR
D. Black mold exposure (there was a leak in my bedroom with mold growing and I worked in a yoga studio with mold growing on the walls in the back washer room).
What do you guys think? I have definitely herxed on antibiotics. I have tons of friends (both guys and girls) who have received the gardasil vaccine and are completely fine.
I also tested IgM for Babesia Duncani and a few strands for Lyme.
I really want to believe it is a fresh new tick bite and not a irreversable vaccine injury :/
10 months into treatment.... some things better, other worse..
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tricia386
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If i can help one person not go through the nightmare I did thats good rnough for me
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tricia386
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xrunner. take a look at this it explains alot
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LAX Mom: Please. You need to fire your children's pediatrician. Your 4 yr. old starts banging his head after 18 month vax,
they swarm and threaten you to bring him in for more. Daughter 2 bad experiences w/ Gardisal, they want the last one.
Do us all a favor, stand up to this Dr., and tell him the truth. It makes my blood boil. Tell them the truth.
Xrunner, I'm no Dr., obviously - IMO, pretty clear you have Lyme and babesia. Sometimes, we can carry these diseases for a long time,
and then a 'hit' to the immune system makes them take over, forcing us to deal with them- in your case, perhaps the G. vaccination-
My case, I ran a high end stressful career, and then after my last baby was born and realizing my middle child was ill, did me in.
But, better to clear them out for our future.
I cannot have rational conversations anymore about the US vaccination schedule or poison ingredients. The sheer greed destruction that is ignored is evil, really.
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- laxmom,
as long as you continue to hire that pediatrician or stay with them - and their office has your kids listed as current patients, you are subject to their keeping track of your kids. And that could cause some trouble at any time for certain vaccines.
I had hoped after what you posted a week or two ago that you might have found a different doctor. A ND might be a good fit for your kids. If they have other health issues, a ND who is more in tune with the specifics . . . or an integrative doctor.
They don't need a pediatrician in your insurance plan if the bases are covered by another good doctor who can meet their needs. But you would need to tell that pediatrician that the kids have another doctor so they stop checking up on you.
An ND or integrative doctor may also be able to tell you how to go about SAFE vaccines (if available somehow) or the key support before and after, if they are needed (as some may be, such as tetanus).
They may also have other methods. It's not as easy as just not doing vaccines, other steps have to fill in then. Find a doctor who has a fuller extent of all options. -
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Vaccinations ? May, 2013 - Links -
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lax mom
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Thanks guys. I needed that dose of reality.
He is too young to see my Integrative PCP. However, I just made some calls and got him in to see a new pediatrician who is willing to work with his DAN! Dr.
I don't know what came over me. I kind of stepped back into denial and just didn't want to face reality. I wasn't going to have his vaccinations done, but I just hoped the problem would go away.
Keebler
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- Oh, hey, it's just so much work and so much to consider. The medical system does not make it easier for those wanting to know of other ways to approach such issues. Hope it all works out.
Connect with local groups of parents of autistic children and they can lead you to doctors who know far more about all this. They have to know so they've blazed some trails for others. -
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My insurance Ped. does not agree on my stance on vaccines- Most will not, they are paid to push these.
However, he respects me. I don't get calls, I don't get pushed. I actually find him intelligent, and we have had some in depth conversations.
If you lay down the law, your kids have immune system issues, have had reactions, you have a religious exemption it's against your beliefs, make them put it in the file, etc.
It is at the yearly 'well' checks they are required to PUSH, use the word 'die' etc. Unless I want the ear/eye checks that come with that appt.,
(I know what my kids height/ weight growth curves are) I don't go to those appts.
You will be hard pressed to find an insurance Ped. Dr. not required to push vaccinations. I had one actually say years ago 'you don't vaccinate, you can't be in my practice'
I can tell you very sad stories from allowing that bullying to hurt my daughter (fevers, rapid head growth off the chart ignored, etc.)
Anyway- make yourself heard, in the charts- YOU are in charge.
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lax mom
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There are 16,000 lawsuits against Merck and the Gardisil... and it's still on the market.
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In 1986, there was a federal law put in place that parents cannot sue pharmacutical companies for vaccine related
injuries or death, and instead set up a Congess appointed Office of Special Masters, where certain cases might be heard, might be awarded, determined by the appointed 'official.'
In 1983, 11 total vaccinations were required from birth to age 16. Autism was 1 in 10,000. Notice no outbreaks of measles, polio, etc. Notice the increase in vaccines start now that there really is no liability.
In 2013, birth from age 18, up to 58. Yes, 58 required. Sometimes up to 7-8 given at 1 time. Infants, every month to every few months. Autism is 1 in 50. This does NOT include ADHD.
Money money money money. And the human race declines. Yep, cannot go here anymore. I had to stop volunteering in the public Kindergarten class for awhile
last year- my God, help us. Sooo many children are affected. It's the new 'normal'. Some literally could not speak, control any of their actions, comprehend.
All integrated- the new normal. Heartbreaking for us older folks, who know this is NOT normal. It just kills me.
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Yes, and everyone of these families just thinks it is their individual cross to bear, or the establishment thinks this, and nothing changes so that autism starts to decline.
Makes you wonder sometime if the people who make the medical decisions at the highest level have anything at all between their ears.
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Surprise, I taught until 1994. Never once had a (known) autistic child in my room. (they may not have been mainstreamed some of those years.. but there were NOT very many.. couldn't have been)
I only had maybe one or two ADHD kids per year in a class of 22 kids.
I've even heard that the current count was 83 vaccines in 2013. That is just crazy.
There is also a big connection between candida and autism.
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TuTu, it very well may be 83, I was trying to count from the current CDC schedule, and there were too many.
But the 1983 schedule was quite simple.
Yes, genetics (Lyme, canidia, bacteria, autoimmune disorders, GMO foods altering our DNA, toxic world, what have you) loaded the gun,
vaccines pulled the trigger, is a saying. Toxic tipping point. By the time I really got a clue, my kids had pretty much been fully vaccinated, except for the boosters on the youngest,
and the boosters they keep adding/demanding. I can't do it. I waive them. When my kids are 18, it will be their
decision if they want more boosters, or a flu shot. I simply cannot take the responsibility for it again. Fragile subject, sorry. I know too much, and live with it every day.
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I'm very sorry for all affected so dramatically by these vaccines and the GMO's... everything our bodies are pelted with.
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GretaM
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"Makes you wonder sometime if the people who make the medical decisions at the highest level have anything at all between their ears. "
Cotton wool.
And they have no souls either.
I don't want to go all religious, but as I get further into lyme and co., I am starting to think that people at the top promoting treatment instead of cures at Big Pharma are doing the devil's work. All that evil for the sake of making a buck.
Or billion's of bucks.
How do they sleep at night?
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Sadly, they sleep much better than we do, I'm sure. It's sickening.
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If you want to know where all this comes from, read Eustace Mullins' "Murder by Injection"
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When I took my ds to get his physical, I was told they recommend Gardisil to boys now and did I want him to have the shot? I declined.
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