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One of my main problems with Lyme is knee pain. First one knee and then the other and then after I started the antibiotics- both were equal pain but much less that the terrible nightmare pain that I was living with.
I was off the meds for the summer so I could be out in the sun with my children...I am back on Doxy and Ceftin and my knee pain has become worse. I could not even sleep last night.
Is that normal?
Thanks for your knowledge.
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Carol in PA
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Knee pain seems to be common with Lyme. Does tylenol help?
You can reduce the joint pain by taking supplements that reduce inflammation, like Magnesium, Fish oil, Systemic enzymes, Berberine, and other antiinflammatories.
I fixed my knee pain with the SOTA Magnetic Pulser. This little machine uses pulsed magnetic energy to improve circulation and reduce inflammation and pain.
Are you having pain anywhere else besides the knees? What has helped?
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Spirochetes require it, but so do your joints. If you supplement, at least you have some opportunity to replace the nutrients that have been removed by the parasites.
If you find this pain upon reinitiating abx it is probably caused by toxin release and the resulting inflammation. I would just add Japanese knotweed to the list posted by Carol in PA.
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I suffer with knee pain also. I just keep trying different things. Right now I have been using my horse's, poultice. It is some sort of clay, with herbs in it, bought it at Fleet Farm. I put clay on, then wet paper, then a wrap of sorts, then vet wrap (not to tight). And I do this before bed, and I am almost pain free till about 9AM the next morning.
I have only done it 2 times so far.
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Since you just went back on the meds, I would say you are herxing. You can herx just about "anywhere" in any form.
Also consider candida to be in the picture.
You may want to try glucosamine, chondroitin, and MSM as well as some curcumin.
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lr26 said, "Right now I have been using my horse's poultice." If you have a horse with sore joints, he would really benefit from PEMF, pulsed electromagnetic fields.
Rowingmom said, "I would just add Japanese knotweed to the list." Resveratrol, or Japanese Knotweed, is very good, but I had problems with it, and I never remember to put it on the list.
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I am dealing with knee pain, stiff muscles and plantar fascitis. Also this stiffness and pain can travel up my back and neck. I used to think that this meant lyme was active in all these different places and when the lyme bugs were done in one area the pain would migrate to another area.
Now I am questioning why I got CHRONIC "lyme" in the first place. I now do not blame just lyme but adrenal and thyroid issues which can cause many of the same symptoms. In my case it seems like gum surgery, beating my adrenals with stress, rushing,coffee and other bad lifestyle habits....allowed the lyme and babesia to become chronic by lowering immune system function.
I am going through physical therapy and they keep finding new stiff muscles to work through with massage but I want to fix why the muscles are stiff and sore in the first place.
Has everyone here been tested for Hashimoto thyroiditis? My last tests show pretty high antibodies and that can cause stiff muscles and muscle cramps. The hips, knees, calves, feet, etc all depend on the other parts functioning well. So, a knee problem doesn't necessarily mean there is a defective knee or even fluid in the knee..It might mean that the stiffness in muscles is pulling everything out of whack,
I'm reading a great book called Hashimoto Thyroiditis: Lifestyle Interventions for Finding and Treating the Root Cause. She speaks briefly about infections (including lyme) and how they can affect the thyroid. The author is a pharmacist with Hashimoto thyroiditis...but despite being a pharmacist much of her advice is nutritional and supplemental
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