gigimac
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I am not doing well with diflucan. Can probiotics be enough?
Is there anything else one could take that targets only yeast (rx,supplement or herb)?
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Keebler
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- I would suggest instead of diflucan, OLE (only Seagate). Not only did it work much better it was easier on my body. Diflucan can be very hard on the liver. OLE helps the liver.
Probiotics are still required but the two work in totally different ways. If on antibiotics, IMO, you do need
1. Probiotics of various kinds. It's best to get from foods - miso, brewers yeast, fermented cabbage, etc, if possible but not yogurt as dairy can cause a lot of issues.
If you can "do" yogurt, do NOT eat the low fat kind. It's usually loaded with powdered milk & other fillers that has problems with the processing of it. If you do, eat only plain, organic whole milk yogurt from grass-fed cattle or goats.
Any regular yogurt can be made thicker by adding some Chia seeds and letting set in fridge overnight.
Be sure whatever you take is a top quality. There are some terrible "probiotics" out there that are not up to par.
2. anti-fungal targeting approach, be that Rx or specific herbal formula. IMO, nothing can come close to OLE. And I tried it all.
Hubby did not take it except for in preparation for clindamycin which is notorious for messing with G.I. bacteria.
S.boularrdi is one of the probiotics that I feel should definitely be included in the mix.
Hubby did take herbs from time to time as well as lots of probiotics. Olive leaf is one of the better ones - and yes I agree that Seagate brand is good. But he also thought the liquid olive leaf supplement was about as good - used Vitamin Shoppe brand I think.
There are numerous herbs that can help - it is just trial and error to see what will work for you.
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I was taking Nystatin for candida and not doing well on it.
Now using Oregano Oil capsules. It's helping. How do I know? Testing with AK (applied kinesalogy) determined to use the oregano oil.
Then I got re-checked, and learned it's helping. Also, feeling better.
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randibear
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Oregano tears my stomach up something awful. Anything else I can use? Causes bad reflux.
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Catgirl
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If you're going off diflucan, you will need more than probiotics. You also need herbs or yeast killers.
Pau de arco, garlic, coconut oil, gse, etc. You can also take them food if they hurt your stomach.
CandibactrinBR worked great for me for a while. I had to rotate to other stuff though. Oregaresp works well too.
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In my experience Nystatin is very gentle and effective.
It is also important to take high-dose high-quality enteric-coated probiotics. The enteric coating keeps the capsule from opening up in your stomach cavity and being exposed to your stomach acid. Enteric coated capsules open instead in your intestines where much more of the bacteria survive.
One of my daughters LLMDs recommends taking 200 billion units of probiotics a day. Each dose should be taken two to three hours after you take your antibiotics.
Probiotic brands that I recommend include Theralac and the Critical Care brand probiotics with GPS strains. GPS strains are bacterial strains that have actually been proven to be beneficial to humans in clinical trials.
Taking prebiotics with your probiotics provides the bacteria with the food that they need to multiply and survive in your intestines. PreBiota is a prebiotic product that I have found to be very useful.
Saccharomyces boulardii is a healthy yeast that competes with the unhealthy candida yeasts and should be taken in addition to probiotics. It should be taken two hours after Nystatin. It can be taken the same time as antibiotics.
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ukcarry
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Probiotics alone are not enough if you have a yeast or candida problem.
I feel that whatever antifungals you use, it is sensible to rotate them to avoid resistance rather than rely on any one. I had some help from Thorne's SF722, Herbpharm's Fungus Fighter, Uva ursi, but none were enough on its own.
Different antifungals suit different yeasts/different people: OLE, for example, didn't do anything for me. There are some specific rotated herbal plans available.
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I found Nystatin to work the best for me. I tried oregano and garlic, killed my stomach.
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How far should antifungals/antibacterials like oregano oil, nystatin, GSE, caprylic acid, etc be taken away from antibiotics? How far should they be taken away from mushroom supplements and probiotics?
Thanks! Kara
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