Topic: if someone gets sick from a flu shot are they contagious?
gigimac
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If you receive the flu shot and get sick in response, does this make you contagious to others?
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Razzle
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If the flu shot is the live vaccine, then yes, you could be contagious.
If the shot is not live, then getting sick from it is likely a detox reaction, coincidence, or opportunistic infection caused by the momentary immune suppression from the vaccination (vaccines may contain mercury, aluminum, and/or other toxins).
If it's a detox reaction, then you're not likely contagious.
If it's an opportunistic infection, then yes you could be.
Bottom line, too many variables, therefore it is safer to assume you are contagious...
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- Adding to Razzle's excellent post above.
And, whether yourself or another with any kind of symptoms . . . regardless of the cause / trigger which may never be fully known due to the many variables . . .
other than avoiding others, it's also a signal from your body that you need to rest and really take care. -
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gigimac
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Actually my husband is supposed to get a flu shot tomorrow for a new contract at a hospital.
I was wondering if I should be concerned about him giving me and my son the flu?
I believe he is getting the shot vaccine not the inhalation vaccine.
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My nephew got a flu shot and shortly thereafter got the flu which he passed on to my sister who never got a shot.
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Razzle
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One capful of homeopathic Oscillococcinum taken sublingually once a week throughout flu season as prevention seems to have served my family fairly well for the past 30+ years...
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gigimac
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His employer is forcing him to get the flu shot and he is already feeling unwell and stressed. I am very unhappy about it cause we all have a virus of some kind right now and the last thing we need is the flu but it's that or no job.
thanks for that tip Razzle, I will check that out for sure.
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Razzle
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Elderberry and L-Lysine (500-1000mg 20-30 min. before meals & at bedtime) can help with treating & preventing viral infections also.
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gigimac
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so he got the shot at 6 pm today, will he only be contagious if he gets sick? or could he be contagious right away?
Sorry if it seems like i am freaking out, i am just so tired of being sick
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Razzle
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I don't know, but I think it would be safer to assume contagious right away. Sorry
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I didn't get the flu shot this year. Now I'm really regretting it. I've been down for the count with a flu-like illness. Fever has broke, now left with dry raspy cough. Just when I was finally starting to feel better.
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It is a myth that one catch the flu from receiving a flu shot. The shots are not live vaccines so it simply isn't possible to catch the flu from one of these shots.
Please remember, the CDC gives their best supposition on which flu strains should be covered in each years flu shot. So, one could easily receive a flu shot AND pick up a different strain of the flu, not covered by the flu shot, within days of the shot but not from the shot itself.
On the other hand, the nasal vaccines, FluMist comes to mind, mostly given to children, are live influenza vaccines and each person receiving this vaccine is contagious or holds the possibility of passing along the flu to others after receiving the dose.
I am immunocompromised from a chronic inflammatory disease and the anti-biologic medications, DMARDS, and steroids taken for this disease. My Rheumatologist will not prescribe my anti-biologics unless I keep up to date with my PneumoVax, Influenza, and T-Dap shots.
And, believe me, he would never risk my health with a flu vaccine that is contagious!
Be well, TheWino
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gigimac
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Update:
My husband got sick with the flu a week after the shot and then gave it to me. We had a real fun week on the couch and I am still coughing up phlegm.
Perhaps it was not from the shot but I feel it could have been.
Also, this years flu shot is not covering the strains going around for the most part so, Yay
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I personally don't think it's a good idea to get a flu shot. Just today there was a news report that a young woman in WI died from a flu shot she was required to get from her work. She was a respiratory therapist. Will be interesting to see if anyone wants to sue for this.
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gigimac
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yes, Robin I desperately wanted my husband to get out of the flu shot but it was that or no job.
I won't be getting one, ever.
It is very sad about the woman from WI. Yes, it will be interesting to see if anyone sues. I think the shot should be a personal decision, not forced!
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Again, you absolutely cannot get the flu if inoculated with the flu shot. You state that becoming sick "perhaps" was from the flu shot. This just isn't possible.
There is no live virus in the flu shot.
As I stated in an earlier post in this thread, it is really a guessing game as to which strains of the flu to include in each year the flu shot is made. Production must begin before the flu season starts.
The CDC reported last week that this years flu shot is only 28% effective. So, they picked the wrong strain to inoculate people against this year and a lot of people are getting the flu for this reason.
I haven't heard about the woman in Wisconsin that you are referencing but for every single element that we put into our bodies; food, drinks, medications, odors, etc..., someone out there is allergic to it. Some allergic reactions are mild and some are catastrophic.
I hope you feel better soonest.
TheWino
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Judie
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Yes, it's possible to get sick from a flu shot, though not the way anyone has stated.
When you get ANY vaccine, your immune system focuses on the vaccine and ignores other infections.
You then become vulnerable to whatever the vaccine doesn't cover.
I asked my Lyme doc about it and the above is what I was told.
This is why I decided NOT to get the flu shot. I wanted my immune system to focus on Lyme, not the possible other stuff I may or may not get.
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This is flawed logic because if you end up with the flu, tetanus, diphtheria, smallpox, polio, etc... that you could have been vaccinated against, your immune system is going to be focusing on the newly acquired illness that you could have been innoculated against.
If everyone thought this way, polio would still be devastating to our population instead of this being eradicated in the U.S. because of the vaccine.
I am not on a flu shot crusade. I simply don't like incorrect information being passed around.
By the way, your immune system is able to deal with more than one threat at a time. For this reason, your body has different types of white blood cells to deal with multiple threats: eosinophils, neutrophils, basophils, B cells, T cells, etc...
I find it dangerous to pass along misinformation. If one makes a decision to not get the flu shot, acquires the virus for this reason, they may get miserably sick but they are also putting at risk the elderly, the very youngest amongst us, and the immunocompromised.
I am all for free will. And the more information one has, then a more informed decision can be made.
Good health to all, TheWino
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My wife works at a school that was laid to waste by the flu this year. The school nurse took a survey and half of those that were vaccinated were also positive for the flu. I'm not saying the shot causes the flu, but I am saying that most of the time the vaccine is worthless. They take the strain of virus from halfway across the globe before it hits here, and hope they get it right. One would be better off washing their hands, staying hydrated, keeping your hands away from your face, and taking some natural anti-virals. This is what my wife did, and she did not become ill. On the other hand, half of here team of six teachers did.
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Judie
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Thewino - I think you misinterpreted what I said. Let me clarify.
If you're body is already immune compromised by Lyme and all these other co-infections, the immune system is already working overtime with what you already have to keep that under wraps.
If the immune system goes on to make antibodies for the flu vaccine, it can't focus on Lyme and coinfections (like recurring viruses like epstein barre) so those can rage out of control.
I want my body to focus on Lyme, not something else like a flu vaccine which doesn't cover anything I may or may not get anyway.
The best way to not get the flu, is to limit contact with sick people, wash your hands, stay warm, etc....
"In the past three flu seasons, the CDC rated the flu vaccine’s overall effectiveness between 47 and 62 percent; some experts have measured it at 0 to 7 percent
When children get a flu shot every year, it can interfere with healthy immune responses and make them more likely to get influenza in certain flu seasons
If you got a flu shot this year, it does not protect you from the most common influenza A subtype making people sick"
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